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Covering up the cross (Obama at Georgetown)
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette ^ | April 25, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 04/25/2009 3:51:26 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

THE LATEST flare-up on the Obama Watch (we have trouble keeping up with all of them) was sparked by Georgetown University's covering up its Christian symbols, or trying to, when the president visited the campus to deliver a speech.

The cover-up didn't entirely work. The university's (and the Jesuits') abbreviation for Jesus' name-IHS-was still visible elsewhere in the hall. Along with the cross above the university's seal. Was it sloppy planning or divine will? And why not both? He works in mysterious ways.

We vote for this scandalette's having been the product of just another bad idea from some lower-down on the White House staff, whose idea of presidential decorum may be what the late Richard John Neuhaus, priest and public intellectual, called the Naked Public Square. That is, one devoid of any reference to religion.

Father Neuhaus deplored that whole, mistaken idea. And with good reason. Just to begin with, any attempt to whiteout religion from America's public life would seem a highly unrealistic venture in a country brimming over with all kinds of it.

It's quite possible-it's done all the time-to recognize our religious roots, of all kinds, without falling into the trap of imposing our kind of faith-or lack of it-on others. For there is a difference in tone between an act of reverence, of witness, of respect, and bashing a captive audience over the head. Just as there was a difference between the way Martin Luther King Jr. and Jerry Falwell approached the blend of politics and religion that is unavoidable in America.

Letting the public see that the president of the United States was speaking at a Catholic university would seem only a simple, natural recognition of reality, both physical and spiritual.

What's wrong, what's tasteless, what's impudent, is to request that a religious institution hide its religion. That strikes us as unnatural, artificial, and in the end an act of intolerance, for it requires others to sacrifice their integrity to please our absolute devotion to our own, uncompromising creed-in this case, a blank, official, established secularism.

To separate our deepest beliefs from the public square impoverishes it. And ignores how rich and varied our culture is. Why slice our public life into separate boxes and declare that nothing should cross the arbitrary line we've drawn between them? How barbaric to turn aside from such a rich heritage. And illmannered. A gracious guest, and Mr. Obama was the guest in this instance, does not begin his visit by redecorating his host's house. The sight of the university's seal as he spoke should not have offended, for it is the university's own, not a government establishment of religion.

It's hard to believe this cover-up was the president's idea, since he didn't hesitate to bring up the Sermon on the Mount in his speech/sermon: "There is a parable at the end of the Sermon on the Mount that tells a story of two men. . . . 'the rain descended and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house . . . it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.' . . . We cannot rebuild this economy on the same pile of sand. We must build our house upon a rock."

Somehow we never thought the Teacher from Nazareth was discussing government economic policy when he referred to that Rock, but what do we know? Biblical commentary has never been our forte. It was the president's speech, and he has every right to choose his own words, including a scriptural reference. Just as Georgetown need not have hidden away its religious symbols at his behest.

IT WAS a strange episode all in all, especially because this president has never shied away from religious symbols before. Didn't he just hold a Passover seder at the White House? Surely he didn't cover the symbols on the seder plate as all the rites were observed in full. Any more than he would have his staff mask some verse from the Koran in beautiful Arabic calligraphy if he were speaking at a mosque. And how many black churches do you suppose he's preached in over the course of his long public career? Surely he didn't insist that they be cross-free before he took his place on the pulpit.

No, Mr. Obama has never been a man to shun religion, at least not in his public remarks. It was at a private campaign fund-raiser, when he didn't realize he was being recorded, that he made his unfortunate comment about those hillbillies who take refuge in their God and guns in hard times. And surely he has repented saying it since, Christian gentleman that he is.

We suspect covering up the cross at Georgetown was some officious advance man's bright idea, not the president's. Unfortunately, the administrators at Georgetown who acceded to the request have no such excuse.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academia; bho44; catholic; catholiccolleges; christianity; coverup; cross; georgetownu; highereducation; liberal; obama; obamaandgod; religion
God save us. This has been the longest 100 days in our lives.
1 posted on 04/25/2009 3:51:26 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: brytlea; Diana in Wisconsin; Kakaze; Tammy8; unkus; metmom; Cap Huff; svcw; reaganaut; ...

Ping


2 posted on 04/25/2009 3:52:36 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama....never saw a Bush molehill he couldn't make a mountain out of.......)
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To: greyfoxx39

“God save us. This has been the longest 100 days in our lives.”

BUMP to THAT!

My only hope is that in the future we can LAUGH about this, because it’s so incredibly PAINFUL to watch, and detrimental to our Nation as a whole.

Each and every thing this sob does is horrific and sophomoric!


3 posted on 04/25/2009 3:55:59 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: greyfoxx39
This has been the longest 100 days in our lives.

Amen.

Actually, The Longest 100 Days sounds like a book title. Someone get to work!

4 posted on 04/25/2009 3:56:59 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Veto!
This has been the longest 100 days in our lives.

On the plus side, that means there are only 1375 days left.

5 posted on 04/25/2009 3:58:28 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: greyfoxx39

the obamites covered up the abbreviation for Jesus’ name because they couldn’t stand for someone else to get top billing.


6 posted on 04/25/2009 3:58:28 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: greyfoxx39

How long can we let this go on are we shackled by this bastard?


7 posted on 04/25/2009 3:59:29 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: greyfoxx39

This is the most shameful thing imaginable.

What kind of person IS Hussein?


8 posted on 04/25/2009 4:01:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

9 posted on 04/25/2009 4:02:20 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: JohnBrowdie

I think its more like garlic, sunlight or a cross in front of a vampire.


10 posted on 04/25/2009 4:04:07 PM PDT by svcw (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't.)
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To: BenLurkin
“What kind of person IS Hussein?”

An Antichrist.

11 posted on 04/25/2009 4:05:05 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Obama will bow to a man with a sheet on his head - Maybe we should all join the Klan)
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To: greyfoxx39

Well look, it’s up to the Georgetown Regents to have enough guts to stand by their convictions and not give in to secular atheists. I have no sympathy. Angry? Sure. How can one respond to all the gutless appeasers?


12 posted on 04/25/2009 4:08:41 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: narses

"We vote for this scandalette's having been the product of just another bad idea from some lower-down on the White House staff, whose idea of presidential decorum may be what the late Richard John Neuhaus, priest and public intellectual, called the Naked Public Square. That is, one devoid of any reference to religion. "

The Naked Public Square usually just gets taken over by something else.
If it's not Christian family values, it will be liberal, socialist, or secular ones.

13 posted on 04/25/2009 4:13:04 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity...you chose this handle in 2001...how the heck did you know that we would be where we are today, with the HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity sitting in the Oval office?

Prescient?

14 posted on 04/25/2009 4:56:15 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama....never saw a Bush molehill he couldn't make a mountain out of.......)
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To: greyfoxx39

It could have been a precognitive event.
That's possible.
I predicted the Pandemic Panic Card being dropped April 14th but
it was just kind of a half-assed horsing around joke at the time
that it seemed likely they would go there next.

The handle exclamation came from repeated exposure to the kind
of cognitive dissonance that became routine during the Clinton years.
One absurdity that made you howl after another until your head hurt.
Clinton was an undergrad at Georgetown so I guess this has come full circle.

What's next do you think? ( the next mind-bending absurdity)

15 posted on 04/25/2009 5:27:52 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: brushcop
Well look, it’s up to the Georgetown Regents to have enough guts to stand by their convictions and not give in to secular atheists.

Ditto for all the weak Nancys at Notre Dame. It's their own damn fault. They have no one to blame but themselves.

16 posted on 04/25/2009 5:42:29 PM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: BenLurkin
>"What kind of person IS Hussein?"

This should remove all doubts!

Yes we can, Thank You Satan

17 posted on 04/25/2009 5:45:41 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Yes we can, Thank You Satan)
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To: ishmac; brushcop

Georgetown is basically controlled by liberals with a liberal, secular, multicultural agenda. The mostly liberal modernist clergy go along with this. If there are more than maybe, say, three aging Catholic priests left there who are genuinely Catholic in philosophy and theological thinking, I would like to hear about it.


18 posted on 04/25/2009 5:56:53 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
This strikes me as an unprecedented event. To my recollection no President -- for that matter, no public official -- has ever seen fit to drape religious symbols when appearing in a religious environment.

Has our crack White House Press Corps undertaken to ask the President why this was done? If so, what was the answer?

Obviously, it wasn't done casually. It was done with willful aforethought...for a reason. What was it?

Is our Chosen One "uncomfortable" within a Christian environment?(one can't call the atmosphere inside Rev. Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ Christian). Could it be that his Muslim sensibilities are offended by the image of the cross?

The affair is certainly meaningful. But in what way...??? The answer would be revealing.

19 posted on 04/25/2009 6:24:44 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01; greyfoxx39
There is a photo of Laura Bush speaking in the same lecture hall (Gaston Hall) at Georgetown University in which the IHS and Cross are not covered up. The symbols are visible above and behind her but they don't jump right out in the photograph. They could have picked another location for Obama's speech.

As it was, from one camera angle, Obama was photographed with the VERY religious Catholic allegorical mural painting "Faith" in the background behind his head with the Bible opened displaying the Greek letters "Alpha" and "Omega" which represent Christ from sacred scripture.


20 posted on 04/25/2009 6:32:01 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: tillacum; Victoria Delsoul
Thought you'd like to see.

Victoria, I gotta think it was Obie's idea from the start. He still has to give final approval, don't you think?!

21 posted on 04/25/2009 7:09:08 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Northern Yankee
We suspect covering up the cross at Georgetown was some officious advance man's bright idea, not the president's. Unfortunately, the administrators at Georgetown who acceded to the request have no such excuse.

So now it's someone else's fault.

Reading this article I got this image of the devil and how he can't stand seeing images of Jesus or anything sacred because he goes crazy.

22 posted on 04/25/2009 7:37:31 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I had the same thoughts. I wonder if we put a Crucifix on him that he might melt?

Just a thought. ; )

23 posted on 04/26/2009 4:35:33 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Northern Yankee

Would have made a great episode of Kolchak: the Night Stalker.
Vampire president comes to Georgetown to give a speech on global socialism
and his Renfield handlers ask them to remove the cross because the master gets
a little nervous and anxious around blessed Catholic sacramentals and holy objects.

"The Strange & Mysterious Case of the Disappearing Georgetown Cross"


24 posted on 04/26/2009 11:42:26 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Northern Yankee

LOL! I agree.


25 posted on 04/26/2009 2:19:09 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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