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U.S. said unlikely to attack Somali pirate bases
alertnet.org ^ | 4/20/09 | Andrew Gray and Sue Pleming

Posted on 04/20/2009 7:21:25 PM PDT by melt

WASHINGTON, April 20 (Reuters) - The United States is unlikely to attack Somali pirate bases on land due to the risk of civilian deaths but it may help local authorities fight the scourge, a senior U.S. defense official said on Monday.

Somali gangs have captured dozens of ships and earned tens of millions of dollars in ransom, pushing the issue up the U.S. security agenda, particularly after pirates tried to hijack a U.S.-flagged ship with an American crew this month.

The brief seizure of the Maersk Alabama and the subsequent hostage drama involving the ship's captain have led to calls from lawmakers in Washington and former military officers for U.S. forces to attack the pirates' base camps on land.

But U.S. officials are wary of any action that could kill civilians and lead the pirates to seek common cause with Islamist militants such as Somalia's al-Shabab group.

"We are not really looking at, from a U.S. standpoint, doing anything on land," the senior defense official told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"These base camps are located, co-located essentially, with villages so the potential for collateral damage is significant."

Asked about the possibility of air strikes, the official said "never say never," but they were unlikely for the same reasons. The United States has used air strikes in the past to target Islamist militants in lawless Somalia.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obama; pirates; somalia; somalianpirates; somalians; thieves
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Why should we attack the "poor" pirates?

They're just carrying out the official Obama Administration Policy of robbing from the "rich"--- to give to the "poor"...

1 posted on 04/20/2009 7:21:25 PM PDT by melt
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To: melt

Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach yesterday and asking why this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following:

1. BHO wouldn’t authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC SEAL teams to the scene for 36 hours, going against OSC (on scene commander) recommendation.
2. Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE that they couldn’t do anything unless the hostage’s life was in “imminent” danger
3. The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS had the raggies all sighted in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction
4. When the navy RIB came under fire as it approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE restrictions. As the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had them all dialed in.
5. BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the Bainbridge CPN and SEAL teams
6. Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR finally decide they have the OpArea and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage. 4 hours later, 3 dead raggies
7. BHO immediately claims credit for his “daring and decisive” behaviour. As usual with him, it’s BS.


2 posted on 04/20/2009 7:22:52 PM PDT by Raster Man
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To: melt

We need to apologize to them for having the audacity to run shipping within a thousand miles of their borders...


3 posted on 04/20/2009 7:23:03 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: melt

Hell, unless Chicago gets nuked we won’t attack anyone!


4 posted on 04/20/2009 7:23:16 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: melt

So just monitor the area with drones. Any vessel putting out to sea with pirates gets bombed.


5 posted on 04/20/2009 7:23:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: melt

Whatever we, we sure as hell don’t want to get obligated for nation building in Somalia... again.


6 posted on 04/20/2009 7:24:26 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: melt

Don’t want to get into a quagmire.


7 posted on 04/20/2009 7:24:44 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: melt
The COWARD-IN-CHEIF will try to buy the muzzies off, like BJ Clinton did....

We all know how that worked out.

8 posted on 04/20/2009 7:28:48 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: melt

We’ll probably “apologize” for their existence and say that we are “deeply dissapointed” in their actions.


9 posted on 04/20/2009 7:28:52 PM PDT by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: melt
We're going to "support local authorities" in a country that does not have a government, and thus DOES NOT HAVE local authorities?

You can't make this s*** up.

10 posted on 04/20/2009 7:30:33 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: melt

This may have something to do with those missing “yoots” from the Land of Franken. They are Somalia’s ace in the hole right now.


11 posted on 04/20/2009 7:32:14 PM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: melt

The fact is, the current administration is unlikely to do anything about anything, except 1. spend exorbitant amounts of money, confiscated from citizens, on utterly useless projects calculated to purchase votes; and, 2. plunge the nation irretrievably and inextricably into a morass of socialism which can only lead ultimately to bankruptcy.


12 posted on 04/20/2009 7:39:28 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: melt
We could do as Israel does call them up and say you have 24hrs to get out and were dropping bombs at tea time in the morning.
13 posted on 04/20/2009 7:43:36 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: Raster Man
The United States is unlikely to attack Somali pirate bases on land due to the risk of civilian deaths . . .

Splendid policy announcement, Oba Mao! Now the terrorists know all they have to do to operate freely is keep a couple of civilians close by as shields.

14 posted on 04/20/2009 7:47:16 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: melt
U.S. said unlikely to attack Somali pirate bases

Well duh

Any body notice that Somalis are black?

And that "Present" Obama is "black?"

And the the Congressional Black Congress has already (see Blackhawk Down) decreed that it is racist to stop blacks from killing American troops, breaking laws, being terrorists and hostage takers?

Even if troops, military, and whites are at risk of death and the USA is humiliated and seen as weak?

Ya wanna tangle with Jesse Jackson?

15 posted on 04/20/2009 7:55:49 PM PDT by Syncro (Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Image and video hosting by TinyPic "Somalians will stop this piracy as soon as we set up an aid package for them."

16 posted on 04/20/2009 8:45:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

They won’t nuke Chicago, too many friends there.


17 posted on 04/20/2009 9:15:40 PM PDT by DrewsMum (www.williamsfortexas.com)
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To: melt

Not with Obaby in charge. Might kill some of his relatives.


18 posted on 04/20/2009 10:17:57 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I guess the French or Germans will have to clean out those Pirate nests. Maybe India or Italy could lend a hand. Too bad this has to happen while we have a training president in charge.


19 posted on 04/20/2009 10:50:13 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Raster Man

Thanks for the report. This is what I expected to be the case.


20 posted on 04/21/2009 2:48:07 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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