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To: GodGunsGuts
Creationism is a fundamental “religious” belief.
KEEP religion “OUT” of public schools. KEEP religious beliefs in your Heart, your Home with your family and friends, “private” religious institutions of learning, and in your houses of worship.
Do not attempt to force your religious views on the rest of the world. There are very “wise” reasons why the founding fathers saw the need for separation of church and state.

There is NO scientific evidence to support fundamental creationist beliefs. LET your religion “EVOLVE” as we as a earthly human Life Form have.

26 posted on 04/16/2009 9:18:46 AM PDT by 56newblog (Registered Islamophobe)
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To: 56newblog

Actually, none of the current bills are promoting creation science, as far as I know. As in the Texas bill, what they want is for the public schools to teach both the strengths and weaknesses of the neo-Darwinian ToE. Who could be against that? Wouldn’t ya know it, the Temple of Darwinistic Materialism is against that! LOL


30 posted on 04/16/2009 9:26:01 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: 56newblog; GodGunsGuts; tpanther; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Sopater; WKB; wagglebee; ...
KEEP religion “OUT” of public schools. KEEP religious beliefs in your Heart, your Home with your family and friends, “private” religious institutions of learning, and in your houses of worship. Do not attempt to force your religious views on the rest of the world. There are very “wise” reasons why the founding fathers saw the need for separation of church and state.

Obviously, you're a product of the public school system or you'd have a correct understanding of the Constitution and the way the government is supposed to work in regards to religion.

Christians are not second class citizens whose religious beliefs are to be kept out of the public square; hidden in a corner somewhere.

The Constitution was not written to guarantee a religion free or God free, society or government. It was written to protect people from your kind of thinking. The First Amendment reads.....

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;,or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The government is forbidden to prevent the free exercise of religion. It cannot be kept out of the public school system. By forcing it out, you are indeed forcing YOUR religious views on someone else. It's interesting that you object to someone other than yourself's views being forced on others, but have no objection to forcing others to believe and live as YOU think they should. The hypocrisy of your position is staggering.

Public schools are paid for by the public, which includes the Christians whose beliefs you wish to control and suppress. By prohibiting them from being able to freely practice their religion, you are also endorsing taxation without representation.

Your views are so fascist that it's not funny.

68 posted on 04/16/2009 6:28:12 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 56newblog
There is NO scientific evidence to support fundamental creationist beliefs.

Really? It's too bad you think so little of the science you seem to endorse....

Gen 1:1 In the beginning.....

There was a beginning supported by the Big Bang Theory and Einstein’s equations and Hubble’s observations.

Gen 1:2 The earth was formless and void,...

Supported by the solar nebula theory and the proto earth.

Gen 1:20 ”Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures,

Scientists say that life arose in the seas.

Gen 1:24 ”Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind...

Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground,

“Shaped from clay [origin of life]”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1515522/posts

Scientists have concluded that clay was necessary for the formation of life.

Eccles 1:6 Blowing toward the south, Then turning toward the north, The wind continues swirling along; And on its circular courses the wind returns.

Scripture describes the circulating system of winds.

Eccles 1:7 All the rivers flow into the sea, Yet the sea is not full. To the place where the rivers flow, There they flow again.

The Bible also describes the water cycle.

Lev 17:10 - 12 `And any man from the house of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, who eats any blood, I will set My face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people.

`For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement.’

“Therefore I said to the sons of Israel, `No person among you may eat blood, nor may any alien who sojourns among you eat blood.’

Blood is necessary for life. The life is in the blood.

Isa 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

Earth is round. Could also refer to the orbit of the earth as seen from space.

Job 9 5, 8 ”It is God who removes the mountains, they know not how, When He overturns them in His anger; 8.Who alone stretches out the heavens And tramples down the waves of the sea;

The expansion of the universe.

Col 1: 15- 17 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.

All things are being held together; gravitation, strong and weak nuclear forces, magnetism.

71 posted on 04/16/2009 6:32:51 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 56newblog

You are no student of history or law.

I feel sorry for you.


72 posted on 04/16/2009 6:34:22 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Member of the Long Grey Line)
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To: 56newblog
KEEP religion “OUT” of public schools.

The problem is, a religious viewpoint ALWAYS will be put forth in school - whether it's a Christian denominational view or secular humanism or something else. It's unavoidable. So, as long as there are schools run by the government and thus funded by the taxpayers, people will have this debate over religion in schools.

The only solution is for all education to be bought and sold in the free market/private sector. That way, people can choose (and pay for) schools that support their own religious faith, whatever it may be.

86 posted on 04/16/2009 9:43:25 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: 56newblog

“There are very “wise” reasons why the founding fathers saw the need for separation of church and state.”

Time to further your education on this point. The founding fathers never included the phrase ‘separation of church and state’ into any official documents, and although the majority of law schools now teach it a fact nothing could be further from the truth.

You might want to re-read the constitution and amendments before you go spouting off again. Congress is not allowed to make any laws favoring nor limiting any religous teachings. Most of the founding fathers held some very strong religous beliefs and in spite of what Obama recently stated our heritage is very deeply rooted in Judeo-Christian values. WE ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION - that is what makes us unique among nations and where most of our people draw their strength and inspiration.


93 posted on 04/17/2009 5:11:58 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: 56newblog; metmom; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; GodGunsGuts; tpanther; Sopater; WKB; wagglebee
There are very “wise” reasons why the founding fathers saw the need for separation of church and state.

Yes, the Founding Fathers were so wise that they OMITTED the notion altogether from the Constitution.

Amendment I:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

There has NEVER been an "official" religion in the United States and the United States has NEVER prohibited the free exercise of religion.

There is absolutely NOTHING here about separating ANYTHING.

The ONLY national constitution that I am aware of that specifically mentions separation of church and state (and church and school) is the 1977 Constitution of the Soviet Union. Many Darwinists feel affection for the Soviets, people of faith thank God that the Soviet Union was destroyed.

113 posted on 04/17/2009 11:37:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 56newblog; GodGunsGuts; Alamo-Girl; xzins; metmom; hosepipe
Creationism is a fundamental “religious” belief.

Arguably, so is Darwinism. :^)

You wrote: "There is NO scientific evidence to support fundamental creationist beliefs. LET your religion “EVOLVE” as we as a earthly human Life Form have."

There is also no scientific evidence that can refute them either.

And a religion that "evolves" is a religion that has nothing to do with God. A whole lot of modern-day "second realities" (e.g., materialism, Darwinism, progressivism, Marxism, etc.) are religions of this type: fundamentally atheist.

God does not "evolve." His Word does not "evolve." His Word — the Logos — is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End (or purpose for which Creation was made); and it is eternal.

118 posted on 04/17/2009 11:58:04 AM PDT by betty boop (All truthful knowledge begins and ends in experience. — Albert Einstein)
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