Posted on 04/14/2009 12:52:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
“If it’s true that Israel won’t strike without the approval of the US, then it won’t strike. BO will not approve that decision. But, I don’t believe that. Israel won’t have a choice other than to strike. It’s just a matter of time and opportunity now.”
A large scale attack would require some level of coordination with US forces in the area - even if the US sat out the hostilities.
From BO’s standpoint, and Iran’s, there will be no difference between active US consent/participation, or passive US consent/coordination. Therefore, it wouldn’t surprise me to hear that BO - in an effort to prevent an attack - would actually threaten Israel that he would warn Iran if US intel/forces detect an impending Israeli attack upon Iran - upsetting any element of necessary surprise.
[If attacked, Iran could also jeopardize an orderly U.S. military exit from neighboring Iraq in 2010. ]
Like anyone with a brain thinks we can actually ‘leave’ Iraq. Let’s see Obama try, and then watch the consequences.
Does Israel really have any other choice? Olmert was a Bill Clinton clone, but Bibi will do the right thing, I think.
"Never waste a crisis."
" "Today I settled all Family business, so don't tell me you're innocent, Carlo."
If Israel doesn't use this as an opportunity to settle all the family business, it may not come again.
If Israel removes the counter-balance to the Sunni Arab Gulf states and does not also establish itself with security within, then it still has unfinished business.
Okay, I know this is a bit off topic, but is it just me or does Obama look like a priss who has just bitten into a lemon in that picture?
the Baroness
I agree.
It is weird though.
When Israel took out Iraq’s nuke reactor, it had no U.S. Airforce to deal with.
It is weird....... that the only thing seemingly between the IAF taking out Iran’s nuke installations....is the U.S. Airforce in Iraq.
I don’t want to get into thee question of what the U.S. is (still) doing in Iraq, far from home.
But the fact remains that the world’s most powerful Airforce stands between the IAF and Iran.
Will the U.S. Airforce help Israel strike Iran? No- if so, it would have occurred already.
If nothing is done.. as Israeli politicians, fearful of the U.S., let Iran acquire a nuke... and Iran nukes Israel.. will Israel nuke New York? Washington? (by using subs). How would you feel if that happened? Would it be fair?
If the U.S. Airforce sends up jets to confront the IAF on the way in to Iran- and the IAF shoots down scores of U.S. jets.. is that fair? How would you feel?
Iran can not easily destroy the U.S. It can however easily destroy Israel. It has said it will. It should be taken at its word especially if you live in Israel.
I say Israel should stike Iran.
If the U.S. Airforce tries to stop the IAF.. then the U.S. is defending Iran in trying to take out Israel.. then in the fight between the IAF and U.S. Airforce may the best man win.
Bottom line- why is the U.S. hell-bent on protecting Iran in it’s quest for nukes? And on preventing Israel from striking Iran in the same way that Israel hit Iraq at Osirak?
I don’t know what Israel is waiting for with regards to Iran. The Mossad claimed they could have nukes by February. Well it’s April and Israel hasn’t struck yet.
Meanwhile the Gulf states are freaking out about Iranian missiles pointed at their oilfields, and the possibility of nuclear blackmail to threaten them into exporting a chunk of their oil to Iran (which is too impoverished to refine its own oil). That’s why the West has sent tons of weapons and missile systems to the Gulf states; to thwart possible incoming Iranian missiles. It’s all about oil. That’s the name of the game.
It’s Gulf War 3, courtesy of Iran
I believe that fewer than 30 Finnish Jews died in the Holocaust and about a dozen other Jews died. An equal number who were in the Finnish army died fighting the Germans when Germany troops tried to occupy Lapland when Finland made a seperate peace with the USSR or in the two wars against the USSR. The Finnish-German alliance in the continuation war against the USSR led to the interesting situation of Jewish officers ordering around Nazi soldiers. One was supposed to be decorated but to the Germans to shove it. If I remember the story correctly, a Finnish captain was awarded but refused the Iron Cross for saving a German officer behind enemy lines.
“The National Terrorist Forecast Service calls for intermittent rocket storms followed by swarms of speedboats.”
I heard that the mecca forecast calls for Partial sunni’s & scattered shiites....
What gives?
Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Oman -- are getting ready for what many now assume will be retaliation from Iran following Israeli bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities later this year. Up and down the Persian Gulf, Patriot missile batteries have been quietly deployed around key oil installations. The Patriot system is designed to detect, target and then hit incoming missiles that may be no more than 10 to 20 feet long and flying at three to five times the speed of sound. Iran has hundreds of missiles and rockets.At first I thought Israel had hit 'em and I'd not heard about it. Alas...
I don’t think Israel will hit Iran’s nuclear stuff. I think Israel will decapitate the mullahcracy. While it is always a mistake to underestimate Israel’s military, there’s probably no way for them to launch more than a single sortie against Iranian territory, and I don’t believe they’ll do a first-strike nuclear attack unless Israel’s existence is on the line. In the 1973 war, had the reserves not come up as quickly as they did and the Sinai counterattack become effective, the nukes were ready to be delivered.
It seems that GWB let prime opportunities go by. Why? Are they afraid an attack couldn't succeed? Therefore why try? Could you successfully destroy their nuke capability from the air alone or would you need boots on the ground? What do the Israelis think should happen? Are they split 50-50 on attacking Iran's nuke program? Or does attacking Iran have overwhelming popular support in Israel?
Lot's of questions and frankly regardless of those answers, how can the west sit back and do nothing? I always thought one of the major reasons for invading Iraq was to have our forces in Iran's backyard, specifically to stop their nuke program.
Can't Israel use Indian territory to launch a strike?
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