Posted on 04/09/2009 5:07:23 PM PDT by BCrago66
The more Israeli leaders huff and puff about their determination to stop Iran's nuclear program, the more sophisticated analysts are inclined to believe that Israel is bluffing. After all, if George W. Bush refused to provide Israel with the bunker busters and refueling capacity to take out Iran's nukes in 2008, the chance that Barack Obama will give Israel the green light anytime soon seems quite remote—this being the same President Obama who greeted North Korea's recent missile launch with a speech outlining his plan to dismantle America's nuclear arsenal on the way to realizing his dream of a nuclear-free world.
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Liberals are hoping secretly that Israel does indeed bomb Iran because they don’t want Iran to be an issue for 0bama.
The only “rational” argument is the survival of Israel.
I’m only now finishing the 1st page of the article myself, and still waiting for the argument that Israel will certainly attack Iran. Hope this article will be worthwhile...
Hasn’t Israel promised to bomb Iran for 5 years now? And haven’t we been told they’d already have a nuke by now? The one thing we are sure of is that man is causing global warming and that Obama will save us all by farting into the sky to beat back global warming.
When it is in Israel’s national interest to stop Iran’s nuclear development, it will. Every country is permitted to act in its national interest.
Ok I’ve read enough. Article is a piece-o-crap, both in terms of its strategic analysis and its moral equivalency between Israel & Iran. My apologies for posting it before I read it. The headline looked promising, I guess.
What about the blog (recently linked on FR) which stated (apparently with some credibility) that Obama will not allow overflights of Iraq by Israeli warplanes headed for Iran? If that will be the case can the IDF get around it?
This situation started with Bush. Israel uses it to “get the word out.”
I say this because when Israel was threatened by states building nukes, they took out TWO, so far. Irak’s Osarik. And, syria’s.
Can you imagine US war planes attacking Israeli jets?
As a matter of fact, can you think of the news reports, where our pilots get KILLED? Because they fired on Israeli jets? Go ahead. Spin it.
Israel knows it has the time. It also knows the appropriate buttons it needs to push to ALERT AMERICANS to the dangers inherent in Gates’ plans! This is a surrender. This is a capitulation. Just to get out of Irak.
We should’a taken our troops out of Irak as soon as we knew Maliki went to Iran for support! GOT IT. And, won!
You bet, there’s a lot of truth waiting to be told.
But for news value? Try to figure out WHY a news item works. At getting you to know what’s up. Without spelling it out.
Obama, meanwhile, has come out in the open. And, now to defend his “bow” to the saudi king; lists his “head fake.” It really was a head fake. The saud’s are scared at the iranian overtures. Israel’s NOT!
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Oh, well . . . 'Nuff said by me here on FR.
I have listened to C2C since it was on the air.
He is the LEAST credible of any guest they have.
But George Noury continues to be so credulous.
I turn it off when I hear Ed Dames is on.
It would not be difficult to predict war in the Middle East; many with far better credentials are so stating.
I agree with your test of the 6.7 earthquake: then I might take notice:)
A corollary of this basic point is that the weaker and more dependent Israel becomes, the more Israeli interests and American interests are likely to diverge. Stripped of its ability to take independent military action, Israel's value to the United States can be seen to reside in its ability to give the Golan Heights back to Syria and to carve out a Palestinian state from the remaining territories it captured in 1967—after which it would be left with only the territories of the pre-1967 state to barter for a declining store of U.S. military credits, which Washington might prefer to spend on wooing Iran.
I believe this is how SofS Clinton and 0bama already view Israel. Keep in mind that while you and I have our own views on Israel, it is now the 0bama Regime that is in charge of our foreign policy.
Add this to the mix:
The parallels between Israel's rise to superpower client status after 1967 and Iran's recent rise offer another strong reason for Israel to act—and act fast. The current bidding for Iran's favor is alarming to Israel not only because of the unfriendly proclamations of Iranian leaders but because of what an American rapprochement with Iran signals for the future of Israel's status as an American client. While America would probably benefit by playing Israel and Iran against each other for a while to extract the maximum benefit from both relationships, it is hard to see how America would manage to please both clients simultaneously and quite easy to imagine a world in which Iran—with its influence in Afghanistan and Iraq, its control over Hezbollah and Hamas, and easy access to leading members of al-Qaida—would be the partner worth pleasing.
Actually, I think this is a VERY perceptive article in light of the current administration's lean toward the Muslim world. Don't think that Samantha Powers or some other 0bama advisor hasn't already made the argument above to 0bama, who wants to be the Hero of the Muslim and Third World.
Thanks very much for posting this.
A post like this is why I like FR. You think outside the Box.
But for news value? Try to figure out WHY a news item works. At getting you to know what’s up. Without spelling it out.
You're right about this.
And, now to defend his “bow” to the saudi king; lists his “head fake.” It really was a head fake. The saud’s are scared at the iranian overtures.
On this I would disagree. My viewing of The Bow is that it was unscripted, that 0bama couldn't overcome his early Muslim training in Indonesia regarding the protectors of Mecca and Medina and the Honor accorded to them.
One commentator pointed out that he appeared to "check" his bow when he realized how it would be viewed.
No, I think that was the Real 0bama on display.
Bibi is not Obama.
Do you have that link?
1.So now Obama is the boss of Iraq?
2.He is actually defending the psycho Mullahs of Iran?
Israel doesn’t need to go through Iraq. All the Israeli’s have to do is utilise Saudi airspace. The Saudis if they got in the way would only result in lots of plinked Saudi F-15s and Tornado fighters. The Israelis can take out Tabuk airfield in western Saudi and maintain a corridor for their strike force.
A huge operation, but one that would allow for their Boeing 707 tanker fleet to loiter protected by fighter aircraft. The Saudis would be hamstrung as to what to do. The only problem is that it would take a huge operation to take out all the Iranian nuclear related sites. The Bushehr reactor is due to go on line by the end of this year according to Iranian press. I don’t think that Israel has any option but to destroy Bushehr before the Russianssupply the fuel.
True, but a much longer route otherwise and fraught with complications with the Saudis, some of which you pointed out.
very interesting analysis of Israeli, US, Iran situation
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