You and me both, Mandrake...
Posted on 02/13/2009 11:00:52 AM PST by sldghmr300
Why did the 60's Generation get it so wrong in so many areas of life?
An old-timer here at work is convinced that the Beatles ‘started all this sh**’.
Paragraphs are your friend. The 60s caused damage that has never been fully repaired.
Dr. Spock played his role.
They never really had to work or watch their parents have to work hard just to make ends meet like their parents did.
*sigh* sad to say the boomers were handed the world on a silver platter and when we look around today we see the smoldering remnants of what the greatest generation and their parents (the depression era folks) worked so hard to build.
All you need is love...
I find it had to believe myself that the “Greatest Generation” spawned some of the biggest, whiniest, loser, cowards on the face of the earth. Was it the Beatles? Who know? They were even corrupted by Bob Dylan.
The damage of the sixties was started long before the sixties. It just came to a head because the damagers had taken over the schools and the media the decade before.
The much heralded “greatest generation” wasn’t so good at raising kids?
That’s as good a theory as any.
I, personally, have decided to blame Elvis.
We may have a WINNER!!!!
The 60s kids smoked all the paragraph marks? None left?
Discernment is called for - now more than ever. Read the signs.
That is an interesting observation.
They became convinced they could remain children forever.
As they got older, they refused to admit that is just a dream ALL children have, and that ALL children in the past have arrived at the doorway to maturity, and going through that doorway is as important to one’s emotional maturity as emerging from the womb is for the whole person.
They held on to their childish things—the things they read, and watched and listened to were not given up for deeper things, tougher things. When challenges appeared, they saw them as obstacles to be avoided...and so they did avoid them, and did not gain the insight and knowledge that leads to wisdom.
Instead they thought “We can just keep refusing to grow up, and the world will have to just deal with that.”
They were wrong.
Oh yeah... there were alot of drugs used by them too.
Hey, man, wanna buy a 1/4 “O” of Carriage Returns? Cheap?
Robert Kline’s, 70’s recording ‘Child of the 50’s’ album is pretty good at describing life during that decade. I remember the air raid drills and hiding under the desk until the all clear signal was given. What a blast./p>
Everything was too easy.
Or maybe they just took the brown acid when they shouldn’t have. Stupid is as stupid does.
Now we’re paying for it too . . .
Any generation that would arrogate to itself the title Greatest Generation is dealing with some serious emotional issues. Brokaw was either pandering or simply wrong to name them that.
Every generation has its greatness. The “Greatest” gave us FDR, massive deficits, payroll taxes, loss of natural rights and an alphabet soup of government agencies we’ve never escaped. They also did many wonderful things. Greatness is not limited to a generation.
I teach youth ages 14-18 and there are many great among them. Clearly, the Founding Fathers were great as well.
The 60’s generation was screwed up by the commies of the 40’s generation, who were screwed up by the 20’s commies, who were screwed up by studying 19th century German intellectualism.
1. Our inherent human narcissism,
2. A tendency for parents and elders to feed that narcissim, and
3. A society with enough wealth and leisure time for the consequences of such narcissism to be hidden.
I think the second item -- permissiveness by parents and elders -- has its roots in the serial traumatic experiences of the Depression, and the subsequent World War.
I think they were indulged, patronized, and humored too much by their parents, the members of the so-called ‘Greatest Generation.’
I have no affection for the ‘Greatest Generation,’ either. They are a selfish breed, also, most notably with their benefits. They have their legs wrapped around every government handout that comes their way, and hump it with glee and passion.
Pity the fool that dares tell them ‘no!’
better listen up to that oldtimer—ya might just get the straight scoop—yeah the beatles, rock-n-roll, drugs, by then the public schools indoctrination was showing fruits of it doings; still later, not that much later, more of the same and more offspring from hippies and dopers; and with hollyweird and the controlled media in full swing...get the picture....or maybe not—some (maybe even most) are too close to it!
Of course I will be called paranoid and seeing commies under our beds fluoridating our water, but how do I thing we got here? ;
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
see comment #24. You and I had basically the same opinion.
First generation raised entirely on television.
Not all us 60’s kids are to blame.
Drugs
The Pill
Viet Nam as a focal point for generational conflict
An orchestrated loosening of morality in media (TV, film, music, print).
The post-war diaspora out of compacted religious/ethnic neighborhoods that supported a conformity of ethic to a multi-ethnic, multi-religious suburban sprawl where every boundary was stretched to the break-point.
You and me both, Mandrake...
I suppose they thought the example they set through their service would serve as inspiration enough for their kids, and that they would naturally follow.
Or maybe they were so worn out by WW2 that they just weren’t up for it.
He’s right!!!!!!!!!!!!
Say what you will about our young generation now but they're joining the military out of high school knowing they'll be thrown into a very tough war.
Maybe our current young generation is determined to prove the 60’s generation wrong? I hope so.
You are right. Peter Pan syndrome rules now. You cannot look anywhere in music, television, or movies and find mature men or women.
The dads are dolts and the moms are Marge Simpsons. Women have it the worst. They are sexualized in the extreme, they have to earn money, Dutch treat for dates, and put up with the boorish behavior of the modern ape-like male.
It wasn’t us. We learned it from the preceding generation, and most of us learned it in public school. I grew up in NYC in the 1950s and 60s, and I was subjected to a full-scale leftist indoctrination by public school teachers, some of whom had even been in the war and had gone through school on their GI Bill when they came back.
This stuff goes way further back than the 1960s, and it probably would have flowered with the “Greatest Generation” had it not been for WWII. As it was, leftist theory - ranging from government control of the economy to free sex with anything and everything - took over the educational system.
I remember that anyone who didn’t agree with this was mocked and treated as a pariah - by the teachers, who were at a minimum, 15 years older than we were. In other words, 15 years being a generation, part of the “Greatest Generation.”
They’re doing just fine. We, their children, paid for their Social Security and we will be lucky if we collect anything. The first Baby Boomer (born 1946) will begin to collect full Social Security in 2012 (because they’ve upped the age for full SS), and succeeding years won’t be able to collect until even later.
So don’t blame the Baby Boom generation. We did what we were told to do.
The sad thing is these boomers as a whole actually consider themselves "smart" .."well educated"..etc.
When the opposite is more closer to the truth.
A music appreciation class many years ago made the point I stated above. One of the periods of time studied was the days of slavery and afterwords in the US. The music of the slaves spoke of hard word but not of cruelty. I don't know how valid the teaching was, but found the concept very interesting.
The Great War (WWI) started the modern cycle of ennui and depravity. Although the seeds were sown before the war. I blame ragtime and The Wizard of Oz.
Typical.
I am a product of the 60's. My parents toiled very hard and they climbed the social/economic ladder right there in front of us kids and we grew into hard-working individuals that have raised kids who are hard-working members of society.
I have many friends who are products of the 60's that have worked their way into very productive, upper-middle class members of society.
Like much of everything else in life, it depends on the character of your family and the part of the country from which you came. Lumping everyone from the 60's into a group of ne'er-do-wells is not very accurate and doesn't show a great deal of thought, IMHO.
“Say what you will about our young generation now but they’re joining the military out of high school knowing they’ll be thrown into a very tough war.”
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possibly they think it’s all just an extension of their experience and orientation with video war games/pc games—and with multi-thousand $$$$$ bonuses, boot camp w/no cussing, etc. must sound like business as usual to them.
Paragraphs are my friend, but sometimes the computer is not. LOL
It’s Friday the 13th. I don’t believe in superstition, since it is bad luck. But, apparently it is the day the return key no longer works.
Also, the fear came before the music of the 60’s, the music was the echo of the fear. Like “Eve of Destruction”, maybe.
Elvis was a creation of other peoples demons...
lol
We saw our parents living their lives according to strict social rules (which most didn’t even question, much less dare to challenge) and they ended up bored at best and often quite miserable. Didn’t inspire us to live our lives by the same rules. The pendulum certainly did swing too far, but it urgently needed to swing.
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