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No Tolerance Allowed: Stein declines university speech after 'hundreds' of angry emails
ICR ^ | February 9, 2009 | Christine Dao

Posted on 02/09/2009 10:37:36 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

No Tolerance Allowed: Stein declines university speech after 'hundreds' of angry emails

by Christine Dao*

Comedian/economist/lawyer Ben Stein backed out of delivering a spring 2009 commencement speech because of complaints to the university about his views on evolution.

The University of Vermont’s president, Daniel Mark Fogel, was bombarded with angry messages, including one from British atheist and Darwin fanatic Richard Dawkins, after inviting Stein to deliver the university’s commencement speech. Stein had given a sold-out economics lecture at UVM on April 25, 2008, and it was for his economics expertise, not his views on evolution, that Fogel invited Stein back.

After Fogel shared “profound concerns” with him over the protest, Stein voluntarily withdrew from the May 17 appearance and declined the 7,500 (USD) honorarium that came with the invitation.

“I did not ask him to withdraw,” Fogel said at a news conference. “I wrote to Ben and, because his talk last spring was about the economy, I had always assumed that that would be the subject of his talk.”

“[L]et me be clear, I did not ask Ben Stein not to come,” he reiterated. “I had invited him and I was not going to retract the invitation. But I was not going to let him be blind-sided by the controversy…. I asked him to confirm that he would speak about the economy and it was at that point that he withdrew.”1

In a university press release, Fogel wrote:

Mr. Stein has also expressed opinions on subjects unrelated to economics, most notably with respect to evolutionary theory, intelligent design, and the role of science in the Holocaust. Those views are highly controversial, to say the least. Following the announcement of Mr. Stein as Commencement speaker, profound concerns have been expressed to me by persons both internal and external to the University about his selection. Once I apprised Mr. Stein of these communications, he immediately and most graciously declined our Commencement invitation.2

Stein, who has spoken at Columbia, Yale, Stanford, and many other universities, told The Burlington Free Press that he initially didn’t want the UVM engagement but agreed to it, as well as an approximate 80 percent cut in his usual fee, because of mutual friends he and Fogel share. Stein called the whole episode “pathetic” and the university’s response “chicken sh**, and you can quote me on that.”

“I am far more pro-science than the Darwinists,” Stein told Free Press. “I want all scientific inquiry to happen—not just what the ruling clique calls science.”3

The Holocaust reference in the press release, Stein said, probably came from the 2008 documentary Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed when he interviewed the curator of a former Nazi “hospital” called Hadamar, who had cited “Darwinism” as the reason behind the horrific killings that happened there.

“I like Dr. Fogel and feel sorry that he is caught in the meat grinder of political correctness. My heart goes out to him. He’s a great guy trying to do his best in difficult circumstances.”3

Fogel said he received hundreds of emails, but only a few came from people at UVM, a signature implication of evolutionists and their intolerance bullying their way into arenas where they are not concerned, invited, or involved.

References

UVM’s president responds to questions about commencement speaker Ben Stein. Straight from the Source. Posted on straightfromthesource.wordpress.com on February 2, 2009, accessed February 4, 2009.

Office of the President, Campus Communication. The University of Vermont press release, February 2, 2009. Available on straightfromthesource.wordpress.com

Johnson, T. Ben Stein responds to UVM flap. The Burlington Free Press. Posted on burlingtonfreepress.com on February 4, 2009, accessed February 4, 2009.

* Ms. Dao is Assistant Editor.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: benstein; creation; evolution; highereducation; intelligentdesign; leftismoncampus
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1 posted on 02/09/2009 10:37:37 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: gondramB; editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; ...

ping!


2 posted on 02/09/2009 10:38:21 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Maybe all those who wrote those angry emails can dissolve themselves back into the primordal soup...they’ve had their say...what jerks


3 posted on 02/09/2009 10:40:15 AM PST by pray4liberty (Always vote for life!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

The people who sent the letters should be listed on the internet. There’s nothing like the light of truth to shine on the roaches of political correctness.


4 posted on 02/09/2009 10:40:29 AM PST by winner3000
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To: GodGunsGuts

darwinists can’t stand debate. like its parent, leftism, it can only exist in an information vacuum.

We believe “in the beginning God”, they believe “in the beginning Dirt”. The difference is their religion is taxpayer funded.


5 posted on 02/09/2009 10:41:19 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Comedian/economist/lawyer Ben Stein”

You forgot... “Al Franken supporter”.


6 posted on 02/09/2009 10:41:35 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR......Monthly Donors Wanted)
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To: winner3000

good idea. publish all these letters. the Internet affords people a cloak for bad behavior, who would normally be quite civil. like the darwinists who will no doubt be along later calling everyone who disagrees with them names.


7 posted on 02/09/2009 10:43:30 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: GodGunsGuts

There is no such thing as a “Darwinist”.


8 posted on 02/09/2009 10:48:19 AM PST by DManA
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To: GodGunsGuts

NEVER GIVE UP!

NEVER GIVE UP!

NEVER GIVE UP!


9 posted on 02/09/2009 10:48:58 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Why did he back out? Why do conservatives always give in? I can't STAND the wimpy nature of today's conservatives. Fight back!


10 posted on 02/09/2009 10:52:39 AM PST by Cinnamontea
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To: Cinnamontea

I completely agree with you there!


11 posted on 02/09/2009 10:53:46 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
I asked him to confirm that he would speak about the economy and it was at that point that he withdrew.”

Translation:

I tried to censor his speech and it was at that point he withdrew.

12 posted on 02/09/2009 10:54:43 AM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Interesting.


13 posted on 02/09/2009 10:58:38 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; gondramB

Why would I want to listen to an idiot who donated money to Al Franken’s senate campaign?


14 posted on 02/09/2009 11:02:37 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (If the feds can't competently handle the DTV transition, why should we trust them with health care?)
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To: GodGunsGuts; tpanther; Fichori

I guess the faith of those believers in evolution is so weak that they can’t handle the thought that they might hear some conflicting point of view.

What are they afraid of? That someone might hear about creation and believe it instead of evolution?


15 posted on 02/09/2009 11:10:57 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

>>Why would I want to listen to an idiot who donated money to Al Franken’s senate campaign?<<

Are you saying Ben Stein donated to Al Frqanken?!


16 posted on 02/09/2009 11:11:40 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I just found out about that the other day. I guess they are Hollywood friends that go way back. And while that softens the campaign donation a little, there’s still no excuse—Stein should have known better.


17 posted on 02/09/2009 11:12:42 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

“Comedian/economist/lawyer Ben Stein”
You forgot... “Al Franken supporter”.

My daughter graduates from UVM in May. I would have liked to hear him.

I agree Ben has not been right in the head lately. I suspect a brain tumor. He did seem fairly sane on Cavuto last weekend when commenting on the generation theft bill.


18 posted on 02/09/2009 11:13:53 AM PST by y6162
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To: GodGunsGuts
But you cant back down! Damn it Ben! use the opportunity give a lesson in American first amendment speech that your rights end where someone else begins, that shouting down or preventing a persons speech in the name of the first amendment is in fact a violation it.
19 posted on 02/09/2009 11:18:01 AM PST by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: metmom

==What are they afraid of? That someone might hear about creation and believe it instead of evolution?

BINGO!


20 posted on 02/09/2009 11:19:10 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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