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Pathetic "Message"
NY Post ^ | 1/29/09 | Amir Taheri

Posted on 01/29/2009 9:06:51 PM PST by Eleutheria5

IN his "first message to the Muslim world" Tuesday, President Obama on Al-Arabiya TV invited the Is lamic Republic in Iran to "unclench its fist" and accept his offer of "un conditional talks."

A few hours later, after Obama had appeared on the Saudi-owned satellite-TV channel, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a crowd of militants that no talks are possible unless the United States met a set of conditions.

He demanded a formal apology for unspecified US "crimes"

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadenijad; carterredux; iran; islam; nucleariran; obama
Hang onto your hats, folks. Jimmy's back in charge.
1 posted on 01/29/2009 9:06:52 PM PST by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

No, he’s far worse than Jimmy - Jimmy didn’t possess any ties to Islam.


2 posted on 01/29/2009 9:10:01 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: Eleutheria5

First phone call after swearing in, it is said was to or from Abbas (Hamas), first sit down Interview.. Al Aribiya. I didn’t hear about the Arabic satellite channel.

this proves I’m right.. my new tag explains it


3 posted on 01/29/2009 9:10:49 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: Eleutheria5

Bambi will bow


4 posted on 01/29/2009 9:10:55 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Eleutheria5

They know a weak horse all full of BS when the see it.


5 posted on 01/29/2009 9:11:01 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The committed will surely dominate the complacent.)
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To: Eleutheria5

With Kennedy, I actually wept.

With Johnson, I began to suspect corruption.

With Carter, I endured the stupidity.

With Clinton, I fought to defeat the left.

With this fool, I find myself lost in another country.


6 posted on 01/29/2009 9:11:29 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: Eleutheria5
"Hang onto your hats, folks. Jimmy's back in charge."

Trust me on this Obama is much worse than peanuts. I hate to say it but it is true

7 posted on 01/29/2009 9:11:49 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Heh. President Obama won’t get any further in the Arabized Persian Bazaar than any other president. But with the Democrats cuts against defense likely on the way, he might end up drafting an unprecedentedly large army.


8 posted on 01/29/2009 9:13:15 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"With this fool, I find myself lost in another country."

You still live in America. Act like it.

9 posted on 01/29/2009 9:14:02 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

We’re in for a world of hurt.


10 posted on 01/29/2009 9:14:15 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The committed will surely dominate the complacent.)
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To: gwilhelm56

BTW Hamas has just started xmitting on shortwave in the past week.

Location is yet unknown. They seem to be beaming at the Med.

Look out Europe


11 posted on 01/29/2009 9:15:00 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SoldierDad

Jimmy does now. I think he’s the official Dhimme in Residence, or Footrug, or something.


12 posted on 01/29/2009 9:16:28 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: blackbart.223
I predict that the Obama presidency will bring about the first ever mass demonstrations of Conservatives in Washington. It's only a matter of time and enough lunacy from these dangerously naive fools.
13 posted on 01/29/2009 9:17:16 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The committed will surely dominate the complacent.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
"We’re in for a world of hurt."

Stay tough. If you stand for nothing you will fall for anything.

Bart.

14 posted on 01/29/2009 9:17:31 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

How does a horse get full of BS? A constipated bull might without meaning to, but a horse would have to really work at it. Just taking your metaphor a little further. Heh.


15 posted on 01/29/2009 9:19:14 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: Eleutheria5
Obama should remember that he is the president of the United States - not an impartial broker.

He'll be reminded. The notion that the Democrats represent a nicer set of internationalist good guys was always a pathetic high school fantasy. Liberal, enlightened, above it all, and the world was only prevented from rainbows and unicorns by that nasty George W. Bush. It was longing for peace. Yearning to open its collective arms and embrace the new progressive future. There are adults who actually believe this.

I think that Mr. Obama is slowly becoming aware that despite his best intentions and the stalwart insistence of the NY Times there is a very large group of people who don't like Americans simply because we are Americans. Someday he may come to the realization that he is an American himself and that it applies to him too, and that stammering "B-but I'm on your side!" doesn't cut a lot of ice with the guys in the ski masks.

16 posted on 01/29/2009 9:19:35 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
"I predict that the Obama presidency will bring about the first ever mass demonstrations of Conservatives in Washington. It's only a matter of time and enough lunacy from these dangerously naive fools."

The Clintons or Blago will bring this fool down I suspect. I could be wrong however. We will see.

17 posted on 01/29/2009 9:20:36 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Since I’m too exasperated to get angry at this point, I will just find this hilarious. Obama says he will meet with them without conditions. Seeing this as an obvious sign of weakness, the Muslims of course will take the initiative to demand he meet their conditions!

The whole Arab/Muslim mindset is very big on showing strength and manliness. That’s one reason why being defeated by the puny state of Israel over and over is so humiliating to them. Obama’s actions to them say “I’m not a man”, so they are asserting themselves as the power player in the relationship, as they would at any similar opportunity. Obama, you have just become Ahmadinejad’s b*tch, now hand over your fruit cup!


18 posted on 01/29/2009 9:21:55 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: blackbart.223

**Stay tough.**

At least until they start building the “FOOT BATHS” in the White House... then it’s Every man for himself!!!!!

God Help America!!


19 posted on 01/29/2009 9:22:32 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

They know a weak horse all full of BS when the see it.

That is why he is called Barrak Obama (BO)
and not Barry Sotero (BS)


20 posted on 01/29/2009 9:23:34 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: Billthedrill

If you are a super power, you will have allies and enemies. The allies will look to you for protection. The enemies will be your allies’ enemies, too, and wish to harm them. If you capitulate to the enemies in the hopes of making them your friends, they will no longer even respect you, and will take that as a green light to attack your allies. Your allies will realize that they cannot rely on your protection, and stop being your allies. The result will be war and chaos all over the globe. “He that wishes peace must prepare for war.” Tacitus knew that two thousand years ago. Have an epiphany before it’s too late, donkey-boy.


21 posted on 01/29/2009 9:24:33 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: Eleutheria5

Yeah, that was a pretty convoluted metaphor, wasn’t it? LOL!


22 posted on 01/29/2009 9:24:36 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The committed will surely dominate the complacent.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Osama is going to fold like a cheap camera. He’ll capitulate to Iran.

A Bohican currently occupies the Oval Office.

He is going to Boheek to Ahmadinejad
He is going to Boheek to Castro
He is going to Boheek to Chavez

He might even do all of this Boheeking in the same week!


23 posted on 01/29/2009 9:25:16 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: blackbart.223

How? Insights to share?


24 posted on 01/29/2009 9:25:54 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

**pretty convoluted metaphor**

NAH .. it’s just a Ballgame of a different color


25 posted on 01/29/2009 9:26:13 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: gwilhelm56
"God Help America!!"

Amen. Obama is his own worst enemy. Carter was and look where he is. a pathetic old fart looking for a legacy that will never come. If I am wrong you can sue me.

26 posted on 01/29/2009 9:28:05 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Hussein would sell his own grandmother (of any color) to the cheapest bidder if he thought it would appease. Throw in the little girls and Dear Wife and it’s a done deal.


27 posted on 01/29/2009 9:28:56 PM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: blackbart.223

Has Jimmy embraced the Profit (sic) yet?


28 posted on 01/29/2009 9:30:33 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"How? Insights to share?"

Stay true to yourself. This country survived worse Than Obama.

29 posted on 01/29/2009 9:37:27 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Billthedrill

But Amir Taheri is just another arrogant westerner, who knows nothing of the language and culture of Iran. That’s why he no longer lives there, and has to watch his back.


30 posted on 01/29/2009 9:37:38 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: Eleutheria5
"Has Jimmy embraced the Profit (sic) yet?"

Yes. Back when Obama was campaigning. look it up.

31 posted on 01/29/2009 9:39:36 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

Done, though it takes me in a different direction than I’ve gone before. Sad to say, I think we’re going into uncharted waters and we may not survive - not as America, anyway.


32 posted on 01/29/2009 9:47:00 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"Done, though it takes me in a different direction than I’ve gone before. Sad to say, I think we’re going into uncharted waters and we may not survive - not as America, anyway."

George Washington may have thought that a time or two. But he never gave up. Chew on that.

33 posted on 01/29/2009 9:49:59 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: mylife

“Bambi will bow”

We’ll have to start calling him DUMB’O! What a sucker!!


34 posted on 01/29/2009 9:51:38 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Eleutheria5

It’s rational to negotiate with one’s enemies if your interlocutor is rational. But the Iranian mullahs embody a sort of collective insanity. They are very serious about eradicating Israel. Israel may be to them the “little Satan,” but America is the “great Satan.” They laughed at George Bush when he promised he would not allow them to produce a nuclear arsenal. They may have such weapons very soon. This will make them the major power in the Middle
East and perhaps start an arms race in that extremely unstable area. They could export these weapons to rogue states or terrorist groups. Obama will just kick the can down the road by flattering them with recognition. They’ve certainly examined Obama and probably know they can convince him that any talks are “sincere.” And is Obama unaware that the actions of the last several years - including sanctions - have all been futile? I personally believe that with Obama the Iranians know they’ve been given a green light. It’s all over - just a question of when the weapons will be revealed.


35 posted on 01/29/2009 9:54:03 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: blackbart.223

Oh, I’m not giving up. I’m shifting gears and steering a new course. Unfortunately, many of the allies I once knew are going to be left behind.


36 posted on 01/29/2009 9:56:54 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: gwilhelm56
At least until they start building the “FOOT BATHS” in the White House... then it’s Every man for himself!!!!!

Actually, I've always thought of that approach as a poor tactical choice for a lot of reasons.(some of which I cannot name here.)

No, when that happens it's time to organize some SERIOUS political and public opposition.

Remember, United we stand, divided we fall.

37 posted on 01/29/2009 9:59:22 PM PST by Big Giant Air Head (My country has let me and many like me down.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"Unfortunately, many of the allies I once knew are going to be left behind."

And who would those Be?

38 posted on 01/29/2009 10:02:08 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

Those who cling to the Republican Party and all it acts upon - instead of what it stands for.


39 posted on 01/29/2009 10:05:29 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: Eleutheria5

Unreal. This is exactly how it was laid out in the debates. McCain said Obama was being naive by proposing direct talks with Iran, he would be elevating and empowering them and making us look weak in the process. Now Obama has done exactly that, and the Iranians have too.

What, exactly, is Obama’s larger strategy here? He offered his hand and they left him hanging. Now what? Apologies?


40 posted on 01/29/2009 11:49:50 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Eleutheria5

I think he’s just out -Cartered Carter.


41 posted on 01/30/2009 3:27:49 AM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: blackbart.223

I do believe that Obama will be brought down. I don’t think he will make it 4 yrs in office. Too much corruption. The media was able to cover for him for 1 yr. But his own arrogance will lead to his destruction. Don’t forget Tony Rezko is still around to talk.


42 posted on 01/30/2009 4:14:43 AM PST by panthermom
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43 posted on 01/30/2009 5:50:49 AM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: Eleutheria5

Ahmadinejad told a crowd of militants that no talks are possible unless the United States met a set of conditions.
___________________________
Ahmadinejad comes out as a crafty chess player giving Obama a black eye and Obama comes out of this as a naive fool outfoxed by a radical nut that the world was laughing at. Score one win for Iran. With all our expertise in the new administration it’s unbelievable that they allowed our President to make such a fool of himself, so soon.


44 posted on 01/30/2009 6:12:57 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: Joan Kerrey

His mama and papa made a fool, and it was him.


45 posted on 01/31/2009 10:24:07 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: blackbart.223

“’Has Jimmy embraced the Profit (sic) yet?’

Yes. Back when Obama was campaigning. look it up.”

This was all I found.

http://tmq2.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/did-jimmy-carter-secretely-convert-to-islam-in-1977/


46 posted on 01/31/2009 10:35:03 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: Eleutheria5

Can we take this up later? I have bigger fish to fry right now.


47 posted on 01/31/2009 10:46:24 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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