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1 posted on 01/18/2009 8:18:55 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Like anyone is gonna question anything Bambi does....seriously....


2 posted on 01/18/2009 8:20:33 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: EveningStar; Fiddlstix; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; Entrepreneur; ...
 




John Holdren,
Climate Specialist Susperstitionist

3 posted on 01/18/2009 8:21:02 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: EveningStar

Environmentalist. No further questions needed. Anything to empower the government....even more.


5 posted on 01/18/2009 8:23:29 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EveningStar
Another evidence that Obama is a stone nut case and will destroy America.
6 posted on 01/18/2009 8:25:43 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: EveningStar
"..director of the Woods Hole Research Center.."

Oh great. Woods Hole is full of people affiliated (at one time or another) with Green Peace.
7 posted on 01/18/2009 8:26:08 AM PST by Outland (Are we doomed to repeat history? So when do we stop typing and start doing something?)
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To: EveningStar; All

I guess we can only excerpt from the Boston Globe, so here is an excerpt from this article...:)

1. You were long associated with population alarmist Paul Ehrlich, and joined him in predicting disasters that never came to pass. For example, you and Ehrlich wrote in 1969: “If . . . population control measures are not initiated immediately and effectively, all the technology man can bring to bear will not fend off the misery to come.” In 1971, the two of you were adamant that “some form of ecocatastrophe, if not thermonuclear war, seems almost certain to overtake us before the end of the century.” In the 1980s, Ehrlich quoted your expectation that “carbon dioxide-induced famines could kill as many as a billion people before the year 2020.” What have you learned from the failure of these prophecies to come true?


9 posted on 01/18/2009 8:27:55 AM PST by rlmorel ("A barrel of monkeys is not fun. In fact, a barrel of monkeys can be quite terrifying!")
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To: EveningStar

This needs more publicity!

The man’s an idiot.


13 posted on 01/18/2009 8:39:26 AM PST by aculeus
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To: EveningStar

Here’s what Lubos Motl, a former Physics professor at Harvard has to say about the nutcase Holdren, also a link to Motl’s most excellent blog, the reference frame:

http://motls.blogspot.com/

John Holdren, a professional environmental judgment day doomsayer, was going to become Barack Obama’s top science adviser. Indeed, on Saturday, Barack Obama announced that Holdren was tapped.

John Holdren, a professional environmental judgment day doomsayer, was going to become Barack Obama’s top science adviser. Indeed, on Saturday, Barack Obama announced that Holdren was tapped.

John Holdren is the ultimate example of the pseudointellectual impurities that have recently flooded universities and academies throughout the Western world.

Population growth means death

Do you want to know what is his specialization? The easiest path to the answer is to look at his publication list at scholar.google.com. No, he hasn’t found anything about laser cooling, like Steven Chu, despite his PhD in plasma physics. Instead, he has only written 3 very well-known texts - with at least 100 citations - and all of them were concerned with the “catastrophic” population growth. A few additional, newer articles with 50 citations or so are about the “catastrophic” climate change.

By far the most famous article (400+ citations) is his and Paul Ehrlich’s 1971 text in Science magazine,

Impact of Population Growth.

The subtitle says that “complacency concerning this component of man’s predicament is unjustified and counterproductive”. In other words, it is an unforgivable crime not to be hysterical about the population growth. Wow. They study the “interlocking crises” in population, resources, and environment that have been the “focus of countless papers, dozens of prestigious symposia, and a growing avalanche of books”.

Recall that the second author, Paul Ehrlich, had predicted that 4 billions of people (90% of the 1980 total population), including 65 million Americans (28% of the 1980 figure), would perish of hunger in “Great Die-Off” in the 1980s. Well, Holdren and Ehrlich may have narcissistically talked about “prestigious symposia” but it’s hard to change the fact that events where people compete who is going to propose a more absurd die-off scenario are just gatherings of pompous loons.

Do I really have to argue that their forecasts have been proven remarkably wrong? Do I have to argue that all similar papers are likely to be wrong because the “arguments” in them are simply not rational? They’re clearly no science and all sane readers must see it.

In the particular Ehrlich-Holdren paper, they discussed five “theorems”, as they boldly call this retarded stuff. For example, the first “theorem” says that “population growth causes a disproportionate negative impact on the environment”. The last one argues that “theoretical solutions to the problem are often not operational and sometimes they are not solutions”.

These are great theorems! They’re so accurate, well-defined, rigorously proven, and universally valid! I am pretty sure that in insane asylums, the physicians would use different words than “theorems” to describe these manifestations of their anxiety disorders. The paper then studies variations of the I=PAT formula which is either completely vacuous or completely wrong, depending on your interpretation of the letters.

CO2 emissions mean death

The old predicted catastrophes about the “lethal population growth” have largely evaporated from the public discourse - “population growth” is no longer equated with “great die-off” and the world’s population is currently twice as high as the doomsayers found possible while its growth has decelerated naturally - but people like Holdren have simply found a new kind of a catastrophe that apparently hasn’t been fully discredited yet, the “climate change”.

Nowadays, they equate “CO2 emissions” with a “great die-off”. Details have changed but the dishonest, unscientific, extremely ideological, and political essence of their movement hasn’t. These people evolve just like the RNA viruses of flu. You may think that you have already gained immunity against this intellectual trap but instead, the viruses have mutated just a little bit and they’re back. They will probably always be with us.

These days, his main weapon is to articulate more radical and more scary forecasts about the climate than (almost) anyone else who uses a proper English grammar. ;-) And he is always careful to be called “Professor” and “big guy” by all the journalists, see for example this BBC piece where he blames President Bush for a 7-meter rise of the sea level (?) and his recent op-ed in the Boston Globe where he attacks the climate skeptics, again without a glimpse of a rational argument. There is absolutely no valuable content in anything that Holdren has ever produced. It’s just plain nonsense sold in such a way that gullible people happily swallow it and smack their lips.

I simply can’t stand pompous fools like that. Because of his Harvard affiliation, I may have talked to him during a Society of Fellows dinner and I may have forgotten: it’s hard to imagine that I could smile with the knowledge I have today. You may also see Richard Lindzen’s essay to learn more about the methods how John Holdren and others have elected themselves to the National Academy of Sciences and similar bodies. It’s plain disgusting.

Summary

It’s very bad that people whose approach to the world is the exact opposite of science - because they prefer irrational phobias, “prestige” of symposia, and visible jobs paid by gullible manipulated folks over rational, humble, careful, and ever more refined, accurate, and justified scientific arguments and findings - are being linked to science, and it is bad that President-elect Obama is helping to distort the definition of science and its proper role in the society in this way.


14 posted on 01/18/2009 8:40:28 AM PST by jsh3180
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To: EveningStar

A plasma physicist, what an appropriate choice.


16 posted on 01/18/2009 8:45:17 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Hitler advocated the nationalization of education, health care, transportation...)
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To: EveningStar
And Zero wants to sign the Kyoto Treaty. He will be ensuring that We, the People, are indebted forever. He will bankrupt the nation in the name of ‘doing the right thing’ (according to Dems) and thusly will create near complete reliance on Government for everything we have. Not even Socialism, more near to Communism. I hope all those sheeple who voted for this guy suffer more than we who didn't.
17 posted on 01/18/2009 9:06:24 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: EveningStar

The proof will be in the Obama energy and environmental policies and their results. We better be prepared to freeze or swelter in our darkened homes because we cannot afford electricity and to be standing in long lines for our ration of $5+ gasoline.


18 posted on 01/18/2009 9:07:28 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: EveningStar

All good questions bump! ;-)


20 posted on 01/18/2009 9:40:04 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: EveningStar
Are there too many Americans?

And, if so, should we tighten our borders and deport the millions of aliens who illegally live here to reduce the population?

The answer to that one would be fun.

21 posted on 01/18/2009 9:52:53 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: EveningStar

A serious appointment would have been a someone from the emerging field of nanotechnology which offers the nation on the pioneering edge the potential for a significant economic boom. Instead the advisor steering the government money into research comes from a no-growth point of view.

The US created its economic strength during the industrial revolution, furthered its edge during the technology revolution in the second half of the 20th century. Nano technology and biotechnology will be the early 21st century economic drivers. Looks like we’ve decided not to participate.


22 posted on 01/18/2009 9:55:14 AM PST by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: EveningStar
Holdren is a first cousin to Chicken Little and an econut. Bad combination when put in a position of power.

Of course the Earth has been cooling since Bush became President. The seas stopped rising, Gaia stopped burning and the Ozone hole shrunk. Amazing for a man who didn't run as the messiah.

23 posted on 01/18/2009 9:55:23 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: EveningStar
He's a malthusian with the authority of the state.

Any question what his position on euthenasia is?

24 posted on 01/18/2009 9:58:18 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: EveningStar

President Bush, evidently, saved Gaia from the CO2 monster. The guy never gets any credit!

25 posted on 01/18/2009 10:08:30 AM PST by jwalsh07
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