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Rep. Obey not sure $825B stimulus is enough
The Hill ^ | January 15, 2009 | Mike Soraghan and Molly K. Hooper

Posted on 01/15/2009 5:24:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The $825 billion economic stimulus package rolled out by Democrats on Thursday might not be enough to prevent an economic catastrophe, according to the chief architect of the package.

House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.) also told reporters it may not be the last effort to use big government spending to spur the economy.

“This represents the largest effort by any legislative body in the world to take government action to prevent economic catastrophe,” Obey said, “and even that may be insufficient alone.”

Later in his briefing, he added, “This product may undershoot the mark.”

The bill could be voted on in committee next Wednesday. That’s the day after the inauguration of President-elect Obama — or, as Obey put it, “the day after the crown prince is sworn in.”

He’s hoping to get the bill to the floor by Jan. 28 in order to pass it by Feb. 13.

Among Democrats, liberals said they believe the massive package has enough for all different constituencies to win passage. Conservative Democrats, while alarmed at the spending, don’t want to pick a fight with Obama immediately after he takes office and are looking for ways to support the bill.

But key Republicans are protesting sharply.

“Oh my God,” House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said of the Democratic proposal.

Boehner read portions of the Democratic draft and said he was “shocked” by what he saw.

“I just can't tell you how shocked I am at what we're seeing, that they’re moving on this path of the flawed notion that we can borrow and spend our way back to prosperity,” Boehner told reporters shortly after he reviewed drafts of the proposal.

The package, staggering in size, fails to meet the hopes of some members that it would rise over $1 trillion. Still, it has many times the spending that most Democrats were contemplating after Obama’s election.

It has $550 billion in spending on items like assistance for local government, public-works projects and green energy.

It also has $275 billion in tax cuts, $25 billion less than Obama had sought and a smaller part of the package than the 40 percent Obama had proposed.

It also leaves out the “patch” to prevent the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT), designed to ensure the very rich pay taxes, from hitting the middle class. Some hoped to cover the $70 billion tab in the stimulus, where it won’t be offset with spending cuts or tax hikes.

But House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) said he expects the Senate to put the AMT patch back in. “I know they will,” Rangel said.

House Democrats also included spending proposals that Obama hadn’t asked for, such as $30 billion to subsidize the so-called “COBRA” payments that people pay to keep health insurance after losing their jobs.

“That idea came from me based on personal experiences,” Obey said. “I felt there was a hole in our hearts if we weren’t taking care of that problem.”

The package would funnel tens of billions of dollars to state governments, including $87 billion for a temporary increase in the federal match for Medicaid. It also includes $90 billion for roads, bridges and other infrastructure works and $43 billion for increased unemployment benefits.

“It’s about modernizing our roads, bridges, et cetera, education for the 21st century, tax cuts that make work pay and create jobs and lower — as initiatives to lower healthcare costs and help workers who are hurt in this economy, and protect our vital services,” said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).


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They really do think that money grows on trees!
1 posted on 01/15/2009 5:24:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe... but we know for sure brain cells do not grow in democrats.


2 posted on 01/15/2009 5:26:26 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Socialist translation: We don’t have enough control over the people so will dole out more money to impose more regulations.


3 posted on 01/15/2009 5:27:36 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Up the ante to 18 trillion. That should be enough for a couple months. The unborn can pay later. Remember the Wimpy on Popeye. For a hamburger today I will gladly pay you on Tuesday. Perfect. President Wimpy.


4 posted on 01/15/2009 5:28:06 PM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This country is being destroyed by its governments.


5 posted on 01/15/2009 5:28:12 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

there will never ever be enough.... if there is one dollar left in private hands it needs to be seized


6 posted on 01/15/2009 5:30:49 PM PST by GeronL (A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood)
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“That idea came from me based on personal experiences,”

Use the Force, Obey-wan Spendobie!

7 posted on 01/15/2009 5:31:15 PM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think I’m going to have to repeat Boehner, even though I know it’s not right to say this:

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!


8 posted on 01/15/2009 5:32:39 PM PST by wk4bush2004 (SARAH PALIN, 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why doesn't he just ask the Feds to print one hundred million trillion dollars. His goal is to bankrupt this country anyway so he can install his Marxist Regime. No need to hide his intentions anymore. Come next Tuesday, we will officially be a communist country anyway.
9 posted on 01/15/2009 5:33:38 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: wk4bush2004

Let’s quadruple the amount.....then I can make a killing in gold.


10 posted on 01/15/2009 5:33:56 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If giving us back our money is such a great stimulus, why not let us keep it in the first place? ;-)


11 posted on 01/15/2009 5:34:44 PM PST by doc1019 (The Manchurian candidate of the Islamic world is about to occupy the White House!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Rep. Obey not sure 825 Dunkin Doughnuts at one sitting is enough....


12 posted on 01/15/2009 5:36:10 PM PST by musicman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t believe this lowlife is still in Congress. No wonder that place stinks so bad. (Dingy Harry Reid said it stinks and blames it on “the little people” who visit the joint). That smell is coming from Obey and his comrades.


13 posted on 01/15/2009 5:36:19 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (CIA Director!....So easy, a caveman can do it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Oh my God,” House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said of the Democratic proposal.

.... and yes, Mr Boehner while your party was in charge you had more than a couple of chances to help stop the upcoming storm where this next tidal wave wouldn’t be neccessary. Heck, you still might be in the majority or at least is a position to stop this train.

Why they reelected you to your House leadership position is beyond me? That’s why your party is the “stupid party” and I will be an independent Conservative unitl your party elects new leadership from RNC on down. Go get a K-Street job because that’s where you spent most of your time anyway!

Pathetic!!!


14 posted on 01/15/2009 5:36:51 PM PST by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Attention: Beatings for Taxpayers and Handouts for Both the Rich and Parasitic Will Intensify Until Morale Increases.


15 posted on 01/15/2009 5:38:04 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
These people are going to destroy the economy.

BTW, great name there "Obey". Maybe Mr. Obey will be put in charge of the new civilian army that the Zero wants to create.

16 posted on 01/15/2009 5:38:08 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: Psycho_Bunny

More countries have been destroyed by their own governments from within, than enemies from without. ;-)


17 posted on 01/15/2009 5:38:37 PM PST by doc1019 (The Manchurian candidate of the Islamic world is about to occupy the White House!)
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To: doc1019
No, he wants to give you your money to spend. Not to save. He is going to spend your way out of this crisis.

Click

18 posted on 01/15/2009 5:38:51 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I read these reports and posts and I feel like the actor who turns to the camera and says: We're all gonna die!!!
19 posted on 01/15/2009 5:39:24 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (The American Form of Government . . . http://www.flixxy.com/political-systems.htm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Once the gold standard was removed circa 1972 the fed got the ability to print as much paper money as they wanted/needed, go back to 1939 Germany when a loaf of bread cost 500,000 Deutsch Marks, pretty much where America will be in the next four years.

Sniper63


20 posted on 01/15/2009 5:40:23 PM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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