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A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the (Climate) Forum
Daily Tech ^ | 12/30/2008 | Michael Asher

Posted on 12/30/2008 1:06:46 PM PST by ebayhater

When I began writing about global warming climate change, public outcry was tremendous. Amid a sea of media stories about the sins of our wasteful lifestyle, no one wanted to hear about contradictory research, conflicting data, or skeptical scientists.

Now, over two years later, a funny thing has happened. The roles have shifted. My stories are the staid and ordinary ones. It's the fellows predicting flood, famine, and disaster who are generating all the controversy.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. What happened?

2008 was the year predicted to be the "hottest in a century". Instead it became the coldest of the decade. It was the year the North Pole would "melt entirely, allowing you to swim to it". Instead, nuclear-powered icebreakers became trapped in unseasonably thick ice. It was a year of record-breaking cold and snow, everywhere from Baghdad to the beaches of Malibu. It was the year the "Gore Effect" entered the public vocabulary, as whenever global warming protestors got together to march, they were met with blizzards and ice storms. Let's hope schadenfroh isn't a sin.

Polls are clear. Despite the media's increasingly shrill tone and ever-more unrealistic predictions, the public has lost all faith in global warming. After all, how many times can you say that this time the science is now finally proven, without being laughed at?

In some respects, that's good. It means less chance of implementing incredibly damaging policies, policies that will have disastrous impacts on standards of living, especially among the poor.

In other ways, it's bad. The overselling of inconclusive conjectures as "proven science" is leading some to distrust science itself. Given that, I think the year should conclude with a reminder of just what the scientific debate -- minus its alarmist media trappings-- is really all about...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailytech.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008review; agw; bigmoney; climatecashcow; climatechange; climatecycles; globalwarming; winter
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For a change, an unbiased article on the real state of global warming science, by one of the better known skeptical reporters.
1 posted on 12/30/2008 1:06:46 PM PST by ebayhater
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To: ebayhater; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 12/30/2008 1:08:04 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: ebayhater

Ah, but even NOAA is holding over climate data from previous months, and they say November was the 4th warmest November ever. unseasonable COLD notwithstanding, of course...this is the first White Thanksgiving we’ve had in years up here in the outback of PA.


3 posted on 12/30/2008 1:10:36 PM PST by cake_crumb (Waiting for Dear Leader Obama to drop sea levels and heal Earth.)
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To: ebayhater

“...the public has lost all faith in global warming...”????......It never had any..........


4 posted on 12/30/2008 1:10:36 PM PST by Red Badger (I was sad because I had no shoes to throw, until I met a reporter who had no feet.....)
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To: Red Badger

What was that study, where people were more worried about clean drinking water than climate change? It was only a couple of years ago...


5 posted on 12/30/2008 1:12:23 PM PST by cake_crumb (Waiting for Dear Leader Obama to drop sea levels and heal Earth.)
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To: ebayhater

“Polls are clear. Despite the media’s increasingly shrill tone and ever-more unrealistic predictions, the public has lost all faith in global warming.”

I don’t think is really true. Everything I see repeats the mantra as fact.


6 posted on 12/30/2008 1:16:21 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Our government is an edifice of artifice.)
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To: ebayhater

It’s obvious to anyone with even the slightest bit of science background that this is a hoax. Yes climate changes, do we know and can we prove how and why — Hell no.

Me, I am fully in the sun’s camp, after studying the solar wind and designing solar measurement instruments that now rest on the moon. Sheeesh, who would think that giant nuclear fusion furnace in the sky would effect Earth.

I wonder, why do we refer to it as a ‘solar system’?


7 posted on 12/30/2008 1:17:00 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

You’re looking at stories in the media. Of course they never interview a skeptic. Talk to real people and you get a different story.


8 posted on 12/30/2008 1:18:15 PM PST by ebayhater
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I don’t think the public truly understands that whatever the political class wants, the political class gets...we’re going to get cap and trade, we’re going to be forced to stop driving internal combustion engines, we’re going to pay significantly more for energy...because environmentalists own the next congress and the President.


9 posted on 12/30/2008 1:24:35 PM PST by Snardius
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Yes, correct, my impression is based upon media stories, which of course are near unanimous. You and I give them virtually no weight, I’m sure, but forget not that those same media stories got the annointed one elected and etc; etc; The “real” people I know were never convinced of GW, so they never had to become skeptical..they always were.


10 posted on 12/30/2008 1:25:10 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Our government is an edifice of artifice.)
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It was Carl Rove’s weather machine in the basement of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building. Once Rove left and took the machine with him, everything has been back to normal.
11 posted on 12/30/2008 1:36:22 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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“...the public has lost all faith in global warming...”????......It never had any..........

Democrats did.

May 2008....PEW Poll

12 posted on 12/30/2008 1:37:59 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady of the North")
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To: ebayhater

GW is the largest swindle in human history. Simply that.


13 posted on 12/30/2008 1:55:16 PM PST by texmexis best (uency)
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After all, how many times can you say that this time the science is now finally proven, without being laughed at?

According to Obama, wouldn't that make the author a denier?

14 posted on 12/30/2008 2:09:57 PM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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The problem is that no real evidence exists for strong positive feedbacks. Worse, they seem contradicted by the paleoclimatic history of the planet, which has never experienced runaway warming even when CO2 levels were ten or more times higher than they are today. Over geologic time, CO2 correlates very poorly with temperature, leading one to conclude that it's a very weak greenhouse gas.

These are important findings.

Until we can explain past climate shifts and successfully predict future trends, global models are educational toys.

Well said.

Some pundits are calling 2008 the year global warming was disproven.

I hope that is true.

15 posted on 12/30/2008 2:33:14 PM PST by ChessExpert (The Dow was at 12,400 when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: ebayhater

Just 30 Years ago the same people were telling us we were heading for a new ‘ice age’.

‘In Search of’ - The Coming Ice Age (narrated by Leonard Nimoy):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZKtJSlhFsA


16 posted on 12/30/2008 2:39:54 PM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Snardius
I don’t think the public truly understands that whatever the political class wants, the political class gets...we’re going to get cap and trade, we’re going to be forced to stop driving internal combustion engines, we’re going to pay significantly more for energy...because environmentalists own the next congress and the President.

Though there's some truth in the article, I have to agree with you.

The war may already have been lost. The Supreme Court has ruled that CO2 can be regulated by the EPA, and there is no telling what we'll get. I'm not sure we can reverse the legal victories the greenies (ok-REDS) have secured for themselves.

17 posted on 12/30/2008 2:45:54 PM PST by wayoverontheright
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A Funny Think Happened on the Way to the Forum was one of the funniest movies I ever say -- at least, at 11 years old it was. Right up there with It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.

Wonder if I'd think it's funny now...

Green Acres was really funny when I was a kid but when watched a video a few years ago I couldn't find a laugh...

18 posted on 12/30/2008 6:31:06 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I said “say” but I meant to say “saw.”


19 posted on 12/30/2008 6:31:29 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: edge10

An ice age may well be on the way:

http://www.dailytech.com/Sun+Makes+History+First+Spotless+Month+in+a+Century/article12823.htm


20 posted on 12/31/2008 12:28:32 AM PST by hreardon
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