Posted on 11/25/2008 12:50:24 AM PST by flattorney
Are you sure about that? If so, then how can the POTUS possibly "pardon" people who have never even been charged with a criminal act, as we've seen happen over the years?
Mark
Good point.
Bush has lead the Repubs (mostly gutless wonders anyway) off the electorial cliff.
Voters were not really voting for Obama because they wanted a black socialist, though the One Party Press did much to whitewash Obama and blackwash McCain/Palin.
Rather a case of Bush having done such a poor job on about everything but Iraq. Borders. Finances. And now robbing the poor to give to the rich (taxpayer bailouts of the big bankers).
Bush managed to piss off everyone. Pissed off the Dem’s by acting conservative on occasion. Pissed off the Repub’s by acting like a Dem too often. And managed to piss off both Dem’s and Repub’s simultaneously as both the average Repub and average Dem were for the border fence and stopping illegals entry and getting govt freebies.
Basically Bush governed as if he didn’t give a flying leap about what the average voter cared about. Particularly in his 2nd term.
“Bush has lead the Repubs (mostly gutless wonders anyway) off the electorial cliff.”
>>>>>>................
had plenty of help from the bushbots on FR, and the GOP
leadership..which is liberal and filled with deviates
such as Graham and toe tappers
Conservatives have no home at the GOP.
...posting on FR less than a month...(I think you lost your way, DU is down the street)
You sound just like one of the "lifelong Republicans" who calls Rush from time to time.
Another hangover troll from DU? I say pardon them and send you to exile in lovely JUAREZ, Mex.
Maybe they should change their names to “Scooter?”
LOL...Dobb’s seems to have found a new persona........
ANGRY ANGRY
REALLY?
Not wanting to bash our RINO, Compassionate Conservative any more than he DESERVES (WHICH IS A LOT) pray tell, why was he able to commute Scooter Libby's sentence MERE HOURS after a fed appeals court ruled that Libby could not stay out of prison pending appeal???
And though I am not absolutely certain, I believe that what the lawyer have done is to ask for the same, a commutation of sentence, and NOT a pardon.
Regardless, BUSH COULD HAVE COMMUTED THEIR SENTENCES LONG AGO, and IF he does NOT do something before leaving office, he will be forever considered a weasel, a turncoat and a hypocrite and the only reason for his not doing so, would be as a result of pressure being applied (directly or indirectly) from Mexico.
Bush needs to not only pardon these two men, but should apologize as well, for the hell they have been put through.
Bush has been a bitter disappointment for me ever since the beginning of his second term. He deserves the abuse and derision he gets from the left because he has stuck it in the eye of the conservatives in this country almost nonstop. At first I sympathized with him and resented all the hate directed at him, but I’ve come to realize that when you don’t know whether you’re fish or fowl as Bush surely dosen’t, you bring these troubles upon yourself. Contrast him with Reagan, who true to his base and his own principles to the end, and you’ll find that Bush comes up sorely deficient as a leader, and like I said, was and is a bitter disappointment to those who put him in the White House to begin with.
President Bush can’t lift a finger without the Council on Foreign Relations’ permission.
He doesn’t necessarily want this Mexican invasion, but the CFR plans to homogenize the U.S. and fold it onto the rest of the world. (Most key members of this and other administrations are and have been CFRs)
This is ridiculous. If Bush doesn’t pardon these two gentlemen then I agree, he will be known as the worst president ever.
That would actually be really funny.
He could also pardon Al Gore for fraud.
Please contact President Bush and let him know you support the release/pardon of Compean and Ramos. Keep it nice. I know some think this wont help, but there is strength in numbers.
comments@whitehouse.gov
202-456-1111
They were found guilty of assault, civil rights violations, and the use of a gun during a crime of violence.
The evidence in the transcripts that they were guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is that the transcripts indicate a jury of 12 people found them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That is the only definition of the term that matters, and is why we have juries.
They originally were also convicted of Obstruction of Justice, but the 5th circuit threw out those convictions.
They were just re-sentenced on the 13th to the same sentence they had before.
I don’t think you can point to a single line in the transcript that would prove what you what you want. You have to read all 20 sections of the transcript.
He should just push Obama to do it, because Democrats traditionally have less respect for the law and might be more likely to pardon them.
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