Lawsuits Proliferate Demanding Proof of Obama's Natural-Born Citizenship before..

LifeSite News ^ | 11/19/08 | Kathy Gilbert

[pissant]

November 19, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Sacramento Supreme Court petition filed on behalf of Alan Keyes and others has asked the Secretary of State to withhold the state's 55 electoral votes from the December Electoral College tally until President-Elect Barack Obama proves he is eligible to take office.

The court document joins a host of litigation questioning Obama's eligibility in as many as 15 states, with confirmed cases in Ohio, Connecticut, Washington, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Hawaii, and unconfirmed reports from Utah, Wyoming, Florida, New York, North Carolina, Texas, California and Virginia, according to World Net Daily.

All the cases reported to have failed were dismissed due to the plaintiff's lack of standing, without the court actually investigating the complaint.

However, as Keyes was on the November ballot as the American Independent Party presidential candidate, his is the first case in which the plaintiff is a candidate who lost the presidency, perhaps illegitimately, to Obama. This may mean that Keyes' case will be the first in which the plaintiff is deemed to have sufficient standing, leading the court to investigate the complaint instead of dismissing it.

"Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that an usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal," Keyes wrote to the Sacramento Supreme Court.

"An unprecedented and looming constitutional crisis awaits if a President elected by the popular vote and the electoral vote does not constitutionally qualify to serve in that capacity," the court document continued.

[ShiveringShegetz]

If Barack’s birth certificate can’t be proven, or if it’s proven to be false, that means we have four years of President Joe Biden to look forward to, right?

[pissant]

Not by my reckoning. Joe is on a fraudulent ticket, so he to will have to go.

[adorno]

Obama was not elected on election day; various slates of Democratic-party electors were.

That's true, but, the general election and the democratic primaries would have been conducted under false pretenses by someone who wasn't qualified.

Therefore, the whole election season would have to be declared as invalid.

If Obama had been found ineligible from the beginning, it's likely that either Hillary or some other democrat would've been running in the general election. And, given that a candidate other than Obama would've been running, what are the chances that perhaps even the republicans would've gone in a different direction from McCain?

Remember that people oftentimes make choices for candidates depending upon that candidates chances against a particular opposition candidate. In McCain's case, the primary battles on the republican side ended way before the primaries for the democrats. But, Obama and Hillary loomed as the two most likely candidates. If Obama had been removed, it's likely that Hillary and somebody else would've battled till at least March or April.

Without Obama there, who knows in which direction the republicans would've argued for a different candidate than McCain?

Furthermore, without Obama as the democrats' candidate, the black vote would not have voted in the same numbers as they did for him, and perhaps not even the Hispanics. There's no telling how much the women's vote would've been affected by a different candidate. And, the feeling that "it's about time we elected a black president" would not have affected the election as much as it did.

[CharacterCounts]

Sometimes, logic and law are in disagreement, I guess....

Law and logic are not in disagreement at all. Be careful what you wish for. If any citizen had standing to sue when he believed the President was illegally elected, we would have seen 50,000 lawsuits, instead of the 2-3 over the 2000 Florida fiasco. Remember, it is the Left, not the right, that always seeks to use the courts to overturn the will of the people.

[LucyT]

Ping to #26.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2134848/posts?page=26#26

[Netizen]

This quote by Bill Clinton makes you wonder if he knows something.

"I never was mad at Sen. Obama," Bubba said. "I think everybody's got a right to run for President who qualifies under the Constitution. And I'd be the last person to begrudge anybody their ambition."

[hoosiermama]

Nothing is stopping any of you from writing a letter to each Justice at the SCOTUS. Write letter and copy/paste names and address from list below. (....A Clerk I spoke with last week said that this was the BEST way to get their attention.)

Here’s their address:

United States Supreme Court
1 First Street NE Washington DC 20543

The Supreme Court Justices are as follows:

Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts
Supreme Court Justice John Stevens
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia
Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy
Supreme Court Justice David Souter
Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Ginsburg
Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer
Supreme Court Justice Samual Alito

[patriot08]

Can you give link to how much Obama has spent on lawyers to fight having to produce his bc, and how many lawsuits are not filed against him?
Need it for a project. Thanks.

[Frantzie]

One thing at inauguration is who swears in the POTUS? Chief Justice John Roberts.

If Leo’s case or Keyes case get traction in SCOTUS and they think Obama is ineligble then Roberts cannot swear him in.

Will it happen? Leo has made a very pursuasive case without even asking for the birth certificate.

[Hostage]

They haven’t been sworn in yet.

Section 3 of the 20th Amendment:

Section 3. .... If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

What the above means is that Biden would serve as President until a President shall qualify. But it does not say Biden would be President, only act as President. So we can certain there would be a new election.

[OBXWanderer]

It was almost a Obama Lawsuits for Idiots

Let us hope that after Leo does his thing with SCOTUS, he might help us out with some poker, not only is he one concise attorney, he plays a mean game of poker...not to mention a good golfer. I listened to the Lan Lamphere interview a couple of times today. He has his precidents and codes in order. It would be hard to believe that Judge Thomas will deny.

yeh, you have to clik a couple of times. Bluff is a secure site.

[wannabegeek]

I believe the Constitution states that the VP elect takes the office.

What if Obama will not be certified by the Electoral College and Supreme Court will rule he's ineligible?

[joygrace]

Why does any American citizen NOT have standing on this issue????? This is OUR government...not just the politicians who are CHOSEN (elected) by US, the people....
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Boonie-

I felt the same way you did until I listened to Leo Donofrio’s interview on Plain Radio. Here is a link if you’d like to hear him explain it. The audio is 50 minutes but it really cut through all the clutter for me.

http://grou.ps/zapem/home

(I don’t know how to make this a hot link. Sorry.)

After listening to Leo, I wrote a letter to The Honorable Justice Clarence Thomas, my Secretary of State and to my Governor.

[Netizen]

Why does any American citizen NOT have standing on this issue?????

I'm guessing it is set up this way to prevent frivolous lawsuits. Think about how many suits would have been filed by the lefties against President Bush, just to impede the process.

[MrB]

Post 70

[CharacterCounts]

All of your points are speculation. Courts do not deal in speculation. There is no constitutional authority for redoing an election. There is a process for dealing with a situation where a candidate becomes ineligible, The EC simply casts its vote for another candidate. Presidents are elected to office by the Electoral college, not by the people of the United States. We need no more proof of this than George W. Bush, who was elected by the Electoral College even though he received less votes than the other candidate.

[nufsed]

Think about how easy it is to produce a birth certificate.

We have a right to have an honest election. As voters we have automatic standing if one of the candidates is not qualified. Otherwise, how is our vote done within an honest process?

[Revolting cat!]

There is no constitutional authority for redoing an election

That's right! We can dictate to the Ukraine to re-do their election, and we did, their Consitution be damned, but we're just too perfect to re-do an obviously crooked election like the previous gubernatorial election in the state of Washington, for one example. Disgusting.

[LouisianaJoanof Arc]

bttt.

[Netizen]

The process hasn’t been honest in a long, long time already.