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Chimps and People Show 'Architectural' Genetic Design
ICR ^ | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 11/16/2008 8:38:56 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

An international team of geneticists recently set out to explore in more detail the evolutionary relationship between humans and chimpanzees. Despite their assumption that man and chimp share a common ancestor, their findings are actually more consistent with the creation model...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cnv; creation; evolution; immunesystem
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1 posted on 11/16/2008 8:38:56 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Sopater

ping :o)


2 posted on 11/16/2008 8:45:48 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Not surprising. Empirical data does not support the central mechanism of evolution (i.e., mutation followed by natural selection):

Fruit Flys Speak Up

3 posted on 11/16/2008 8:50:36 AM PST by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I believe in an Intelligent design.

but one that uses a path that took 4.5 billion years and used evolution as its method.

Just like I was taught by my Catholic high school biology teacher who was a Catholic Marist Brother.

no need to mix religion with science. like Bio Bill (as we affectionately called him) my biology teacher would say. The lord works in mysterious ways.

4 posted on 11/16/2008 8:52:35 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GodGunsGuts
1Cr 15:39 All flesh [is] not the same flesh: but [there is] one [kind of] flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, [and] another of birds.


5 posted on 11/16/2008 8:53:24 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: GodGunsGuts
These genetic “architectures” provide evidence for purposeful design and are more consistent with being the products of an all-knowing God as the Bible describes, rather than the products of indiscriminate nature.

Explain congenital defects, in that case.

6 posted on 11/16/2008 8:54:20 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: GodGunsGuts

We talking W-chimp or O-chimp?


7 posted on 11/16/2008 8:57:49 AM PST by DogBarkTree (Sometimes you have to let it go in order to get a Grip.)
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To: Vaquero

Science has become a religion.


8 posted on 11/16/2008 9:01:43 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
smokingobama.jpgsmokingchimp.jpg
9 posted on 11/16/2008 9:02:29 AM PST by grandpa jones (L.O.M.A. (loyal opposition my a**))
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To: GodGunsGuts
It would make sense that a Master Architect fashioned these attributes—some unique to chimpanzees, some unique to humans, and others quite similar in both—in genomes so that each group could better survive the different diseases it might encounter. These genetic “architectures” provide evidence for purposeful design and are more consistent with being the products of an all-knowing God as the Bible describes, rather than the products of indiscriminate nature.

This is supposed to pass for science? Has anyone interviewed God to verify this harebrained idea?

While we are on the topic of science, has anyone from the ICR come up with an alternative verifiable method to test the Biblical time line? I know they detest the carbon dating method. So what do they use other than blind faith?

10 posted on 11/16/2008 9:03:46 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Science has become a religion.

True. In many cases. especially when it comes to rich grants for things like the global warming fraud, you can just about see the $ signs in the eyes of PhD's

11 posted on 11/16/2008 9:04:51 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Read about the forbidden fruit/vector in the Garden of Eden.


12 posted on 11/16/2008 9:06:55 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: MotleyGirl70; Cagey; Mr. Brightside; Gamecock; F15Eagle
"Sure they do. Koko designed the latest addition to the Guggenheim."


13 posted on 11/16/2008 9:09:09 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Free Brightside!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Because the scientists used the word “architecture” this reporter automatically assumes there's an architect?
Talk about cherry picking a study for one word.

Read the report! They came to no such conclusion!
Hurly

14 posted on 11/16/2008 9:11:24 AM PST by hurly (A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Oh, how convenient!

So, why exactly is it that only a minority is afflicted with congental diseases, whereas the vast majority isn’t?

Oh, and these diseases can be induced by artificial, chemical/ radiational methods too. What does that say about the apple?


15 posted on 11/16/2008 9:11:51 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

==This is supposed to pass for science?

It is a much more rational conclusion than assuming that these mind-boggling molecular machines merely give the “appearance” of super-sophisticated design.


16 posted on 11/16/2008 9:12:19 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Mogollon

Bullsh#t.


17 posted on 11/16/2008 9:12:30 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: Vaquero

Give’em a break. They are desperately trying to save their mother! Who could ever find fault with that...hmmmm?


18 posted on 11/16/2008 9:14:44 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: hurly
But... But....ANY useful trait is evidence for design. Anything and everything is evidence for design.

The fact that chimps genome is only 6% different than ours? Design.

The fact that chimps genes are 2% different than ours? Design.

The fact that chimps and humans share ERV’s in a nested hierarchy of similarity and divergence with other apes and mammals? They were designed that way (by common ancestry).

The fact that humans and chimps share the same disabling mutation on the pseudo-gene for vitamin C synthase? Designed! Yep, designed with useless nonfunctional genes with the same mutation that disabled them!

Design! Design! It's all design!

Apparently God designed life as imperfect replicators that would give rise to genetic variation that would lead to differential reproductive success leading to some traits being selected for and other traits being selected against depending upon the environment. Apparently this tendency to give rise to genetic variation that can be selected for and against can give rise to speciation. Apparently we and chimps share a common ancestor.

19 posted on 11/16/2008 9:21:00 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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To: hurly

So it never occurs to you while reading the following description of a cell that it might be designed by God?:

“To grasp the reality of life as it has been revealed by molecular biology, we must magnify a cell a thousand million times until it is twenty kilometers in diameter and resembles a giant airship large enough to cover a great city like London or New York. What we would then see would be an object of unparalleled complexity and adaptive design. On the surface of the cell we would see millions of openings, like the port holes of a vast space ship, opening and closing to allow a continual stream of materials to flow in and out. If we were to enter one of these openings we would find ourselves in a world of supreme technology and bewildering complexity... Is it really credible that random processes could have constructed a reality, the smallest element of which-a functional protein or gene - is complex beyond our own creative capacities, a reality which is the very antithesis of chance, which excels in every sense anything produced by the intelligence of man?”

—Michael Denton, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis


20 posted on 11/16/2008 9:23:25 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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