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Upside-down display of American flag stirs dispute (Rats get same respect as they gave Bush)
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| 11/10/2008
| DARLA MILES
Posted on 11/10/2008 5:09:48 AM PST by tobyhill
ARLINGTON - An American flag and the way it has been displayed is at the center of a dispute between neighbors that began after the 2008 presidential election.
Ever since 9/11, Arlington neighbors Patrick O'Toole and Sharon Garner both flew the American flag patriotically in front of their homes, until now.
In protest to the election results, O'Toole now flies a black flag above an upside down American flag.
"I just don't think it's American," said Garner. "I just don't think it's neighborly. We have children that live in our neighborhood and I'm sure their parents have to explain to them why that flag is hanging like that."
The flag is something Garner holds close to her heart. In fact, the American flag is painted on Garner's birdhouse and bench.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanflag; bho2008; oldglory
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posted on
11/10/2008 5:09:48 AM PST
by
tobyhill
To: tobyhill
I flew my flag upside down the day that Bill Clinton sent the storm troopers for Elian Gonzalez.

The election of Chairman Hussein is equally as bad an event.
2
posted on
11/10/2008 5:12:27 AM PST
by
Dahoser
(America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
To: tobyhill
Acting like a Liberal is not something that I would want to be doing with my life.
3
posted on
11/10/2008 5:12:47 AM PST
by
Afronaut
(It's 1984)
To: tobyhill
"The election is over," she said. "It's happened and we need to come together like we did in 9/11 and support each other and deal with it." There's more truth to that statement then I bet she realizes.
4
posted on
11/10/2008 5:13:36 AM PST
by
raybbr
(You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
To: raybbr
Go come together with yourself.. Ain’t happening here.
5
posted on
11/10/2008 5:15:32 AM PST
by
DooDahhhh
(AMEN)
To: tobyhill
My brother is a moonbat. I was talking to him last night and he mentioned that, in his opinion, the country should pull into line behind Obama, I mean, he is everybody's president, you know? We need a unified country, what with the economic troubles, and wars in a number of countries. Obama is asking for personal responsibility and some self-sacrifice and that's the right thing, we should really heed the call and follow his leadership.
I pointed out that the Democrats did nothing like this for the past 8 years, and if Bush had called for self-sacrifice, the media would have portrayed the whole thing as a Grapes of Wrath/Great Depression why-are-we-suffering-under-this-moron kind of thing.
My brother thought about this and said, "Well, yeah, maybe we were a little unfair -- but that doesn't mean we shouldn't all pull together now!"
Democrats don't show respect, they just demand respect.
To: tobyhill
... but... but... but I thought "the highest form patriotism [was] dissent" -- ?!?
To: Dahoser
8
posted on
11/10/2008 5:18:10 AM PST
by
battlecry
To: Afronaut
To protest something is not acting like a Liberal, it's a Constitutional right. Libs burn the flag which in a symbol of hatred for this country where at least this man has a valid point.
9
posted on
11/10/2008 5:18:28 AM PST
by
tobyhill
(No Honeymoon For Obama. Free Obama Bashing 24/7)
To: ClearCase_guy
"Liberalism is a mental disease."
"If Barack Obama is the answer, what the hell is the question?"
Rush Limbaugh.
10
posted on
11/10/2008 5:18:56 AM PST
by
mad_as_he$$
(Nemo me impune lacessit.)
To: tobyhill
Flying the flag upside down is wrong regardless of the circumstances. That person should be ashamed.
To: ClearCase_guy
Play him the chip of Hillary screeching that we have a right to debate and claiming it was patriotic to do so.
12
posted on
11/10/2008 5:19:46 AM PST
by
randita
(2 Chronicles 7:14)
To: tobyhill
Do something that shows you don’t like Obama but do not hang the flag upside down. Most people have no idea what it means and it will appear that you are anti-American.
13
posted on
11/10/2008 5:20:15 AM PST
by
WildcatClan
(If we are the one's we have been waiting for, we must be incredibly stupid.)
To: Afronaut
Acting like a Liberal is not something that I would want to be doing with my life. You could not have said it any better. Sounds like a motto for our times.
14
posted on
11/10/2008 5:20:30 AM PST
by
BallyBill
(Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
To: DemonDeac
Really? Last I checked it's a sign of distress.
15
posted on
11/10/2008 5:20:48 AM PST
by
tobyhill
(No Honeymoon For Obama. Free Obama Bashing 24/7)
To: tobyhill
“I just don’t think it’s American,” said Garner. “I just don’t think it’s neighborly. We have children that live in our neighborhood and I’m sure their parents have to explain to them why that flag is hanging like that.”
wow. this is offensive to a liberal? but stomping on it, dancing on it, and burning it are OK? how do they explain that to their children?
To: DooDahhhh
When the Dems are in ascendency, they always call for unity and characterize those who don’t unify as unpatriotic (or worse: now it will be considered racist). But talk of unity is absent from Dems when Republicans are in power, then dissent is the highest form of citizenship. It is heads I win, tails you lose.
17
posted on
11/10/2008 5:21:17 AM PST
by
caseinpoint
(Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
To: tobyhill
I read the comments at the end of the article...seems the liberals are now upset.
Aren't these the same people who say it's just ducky to BURN the flag?
18
posted on
11/10/2008 5:21:24 AM PST
by
truthkeeper
(It's the borders, stupid.)
To: tobyhill
Isn’t dissent the “highest form of patriotism”?
In your face, libs.
19
posted on
11/10/2008 5:21:41 AM PST
by
SIDENET
(Hubba Hubba...)
To: WildcatClan
If most people don't have an idea what it means then maybe they should get a lesson on flags.
20
posted on
11/10/2008 5:23:02 AM PST
by
tobyhill
(No Honeymoon For Obama. Free Obama Bashing 24/7)
To: battlecry
But, O'Toole said there is a reason behind the act. "The black flag is because our country is dying," he said. "It's never been more divided than it is right now. The upside down American flag is because the country is in distress."
Believe me, Texans are traumatized by the national as well as some of the local elections.
Between the influx of yankees, and Katrina victims (that won't go home) we had some Demo upsets.
We're pi**ed off
21
posted on
11/10/2008 5:23:42 AM PST
by
Dallas
To: ClearCase_guy
He sounds just like every single Liberal I ever heard.
I was talking to a guy in the parking lot on the way in today. He was outright shocked that I didn’t support Mr. Hope and Change. I said ‘I can’t wait for Obummer to pay my f’n mortgage for me’.
He said ‘don’t count on it’ and laughed. I said, ‘Right, I forgot that I’m on the wrong end of THAT shakedown... I am taxed at 30% NOW!’ They never know how to respond to that - cold hard logic totally escapes them.
22
posted on
11/10/2008 5:24:47 AM PST
by
SMARTY
("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
To: tobyhill
I don’t have a flag or a flagpole, as a sign of disrespect I am going to call him president BO.
23
posted on
11/10/2008 5:26:08 AM PST
by
Ditter
To: BallyBill
On the video he does say that he will no longer fly the flag at all.
24
posted on
11/10/2008 5:26:14 AM PST
by
tobyhill
(No Honeymoon For Obama. Free Obama Bashing 24/7)
To: CanadianMusherinMI; truthkeeper
The lady said in the article that she did NOT vote for Obama.
25
posted on
11/10/2008 5:26:51 AM PST
by
Dallas
To: All
26
posted on
11/10/2008 5:27:33 AM PST
by
Eye of Unk
(Aleutica, the new name of Free Alaska)
To: tobyhill
"I just don't think it's American," said Garner. "I just don't think it's neighborly. We have children that live in our neighborhood and I'm sure their parents have to explain to them why that flag is hanging like that." But I bet she thinks explaining homosexual marriage to a 5 year old is no problem!
27
posted on
11/10/2008 5:28:17 AM PST
by
KosmicKitty
(WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
To: tobyhill
It is a sign of severe distress and a request for immediate physical help.
I understand why this guy is protesting, but IMHO he should have tied a black ribbon to the halyard.
28
posted on
11/10/2008 5:28:19 AM PST
by
Be_Politically_Erect
(If I didn't think he'd get emotionally attached to it, I'd tell Obama to kiss my A** !)
To: ClearCase_guy
This seems to be the meme coming from the left. They are demanding respect after 8 years of acting like spoiled babies throwing temper tantrums. Take a look at this steaming pile:
http://www.zefrank.com/from52to48withlove/
Now they want instant healing? Ha, fat chance!
29
posted on
11/10/2008 5:28:27 AM PST
by
thecabal
(We care a lot)
To: caseinpoint
I want nothing to do with these people.
30
posted on
11/10/2008 5:28:28 AM PST
by
DooDahhhh
(AMEN)
To: tobyhill
My flag came down after the ‘habeus corpus’ decision. It flew at half staff on Sept. 11th and will fly tomorrow and on Memorial Day. My allegiance is ONLY to those who ‘paid the price’ with blood or time.
31
posted on
11/10/2008 5:28:54 AM PST
by
Roccus
(Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
To: tobyhill
The flag is something Garner holds close to her heart. In fact, the American flag is painted on Garner's birdhouse and bench.What a patriot.
To: Dallas
But if she's a Republicans then she's just another RINO in the herd. She said she wants “unity” like 9/11. There was no unity after 9/11, it was just the Rats taking a 2 day break from bashing Bush.
33
posted on
11/10/2008 5:29:28 AM PST
by
tobyhill
(No Honeymoon For Obama. Free Obama Bashing 24/7)
To: Dahoser
That picture still makes my blood boil.
34
posted on
11/10/2008 5:30:10 AM PST
by
tbpiper
To: ClearCase_guy
Democrats don't show respect, they just demand respectPerfect tagline material, thanks.
35
posted on
11/10/2008 5:30:17 AM PST
by
Pistolshot
("Democrats don't show respect, they just demand respect " - ClearCase_guy)
To: DooDahhhh
36
posted on
11/10/2008 5:30:58 AM PST
by
sport
To: CanadianMusherinMI
President-elect Obama's political sponsor:

Screw Stalinists and the useful idiots who vote for them.
37
posted on
11/10/2008 5:31:37 AM PST
by
weegee
(Global Warming Change? Fight Global Socialist CHANGE.)
To: Dallas
well she earns one point.
i know more than a few dems that did not vote this election. did not like obama, but would rather poke their own eyes out than pull the lever for any R.
unfortunately they teach very little about the flag in school. i bet if you asked a entire class of 12th grade students the percent that know what it means would be minimal. maybe it is time for them to learn....
To: Dallas
Yeah, well read what the OTHER people said...comments...at the end of the article. (Like I said in my post!)
39
posted on
11/10/2008 5:31:59 AM PST
by
truthkeeper
(It's the borders, stupid.)
To: Ditter
I refuse to use the word "President" conjunction with that man's name. Period. I view it as besmirching the office.
It's already driving my lib moonbat mother-in-law nuts.
40
posted on
11/10/2008 5:32:10 AM PST
by
Malacoda
(CO(NH2)2 on OBAMA.)
To: KosmicKitty
“We have children that live in our neighborhood and I’m sure their parents have to explain to them why that flag is hanging like that.”
Hanging the American flag upside down is a sign for distress. If life and property are in peril then it is Ok to hang the flad upside down. To me it is too soon but one person who I know who has been doing it for years and does so because millions had their life snuffed out due to abortion.
41
posted on
11/10/2008 5:32:29 AM PST
by
rollo tomasi
(Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
To: raybbr
I find it “interesting” that the Left keeps comparing this to 9-11 rather than the day that the civil rights bill was passed.
This is just more of the Clinton’s “sit down and shut up”.
Too many uppity Republicans.
42
posted on
11/10/2008 5:33:41 AM PST
by
weegee
(Global Warming Change? Fight Global Socialist CHANGE.)
To: weegee
yup, screw the whole lot of them.
that picture says more than words can ever say about obama and his pals.
the one where ayers is actually dancing on the flag...well i cant say how it makes me feel without getting banned!
To: WildcatClan
How about at half staff? I know - not proper either, but would that be more acceptable?
44
posted on
11/10/2008 5:34:39 AM PST
by
Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
(My new favorite quote "You can't organize clutter.")
To: ClearCase_guy
Whenever a moonbat tells you we should “pull together”, just tell them, for the past 8 years every leftist undermined a good man and the war effort every chance they had, and when challenged that they were truly damaging the country, they said, “Dissent is Patriotic”.
Dissent is Patriotic. Tell them Obama is going to get what the left dished out to Bush for 8 years, and it’s their turn to whine.
45
posted on
11/10/2008 5:34:57 AM PST
by
I still care
(A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
To: SMARTY
Libs are IMMUNE to logic.
Try it sometime - it’s easy to logic trap them, like on abortion or redistribution policy.
But, when you get down to closing the trap, they simply shrug their shoulders or hold up their hand, refusing to hear or respond.
46
posted on
11/10/2008 5:34:58 AM PST
by
MrB
(The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
Flag flying ping.
I'm thinking about getting one of those "dissent is the highest form of patriotism" bumper stickers I saw in Boulder this week & putting it next to my "keep the 'change'" one to make sure they don't misunderstand.
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posted on
11/10/2008 5:35:52 AM PST
by
mollynme
(cogito, ergo freepum)
To: raybbr
"The election is over," she said. "It's happened and we need to come together like we did in 9/11 and support each other and deal with it." Leftists love to use this line once they have power because they know we have jobs and real lives to live.
One of my vendors, a real leftist was running her mouth how Obamamama might not run for a second term because he may not be able to clean up the economic mess the Republicans made.
I then went through what all the Dims did and told her the true account how the economy melted and named all the names of all the congressmen and Dims who actually did the dirty deed.
Confronted with this fact she then said I should not be accusing anyone and that instead we should just come together and stop arguing. Which is the way all leftists work.
Too bad that when the crisis could have been avoided the Dims, like Barney Frank, who was in the tank and taking money from the agencies involved, stopped any reform.
Why were the leftists not practicing what they were preaching?
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posted on
11/10/2008 5:35:57 AM PST
by
OldMissileer
(Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
To: tobyhill
“We have children that live in our neighborhood “
And yet you just elected a president who supports abortion without limits and even supports infanticide.
That’s what the black flag is about you moron.
To: DemonDeac; Jeff Head
>>”Flying the flag upside down is wrong regardless of the circumstances. That person should be ashamed.”<<
You, DemonDeac, should be ashamed for not knowing more about our flag.
http://www.jeffhead.com/liberty/flagdistress.htm
Thanks, Jeff.
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posted on
11/10/2008 5:36:39 AM PST
by
panaxanax
(Wrote in John Bolton/Sarah Palin for 2008!)
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