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SHOCKER: Team Hillary believes McCain will win New Hampshire, Iowa, and MAINE
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Posted on 10/29/2008 8:41:28 PM PDT by BillyM

Here’s the kicker: these people aren’t McCain supporters. Several are working for Obama now in both states, because they have political jobs and thus must tow the party line. Others are voting Green and no longer campaigning for anyone, but are tuned into things in their states.


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KEYWORDS: 08foreshadowing; digg; yardsigns
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You can always rely on Hillbuzz for a pick-me-up.
1 posted on 10/29/2008 8:41:29 PM PDT by BillyM
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To: BillyM

Every EV helps!


2 posted on 10/29/2008 8:44:05 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: BillyM

Regarding the lack of Obama signs, I can confirm the same here in central Pennsylvania.

Very few Obama signs in front of homes. Kerry signs were everywhere in 2004 and Hillary signs were all over in the primary.


3 posted on 10/29/2008 8:44:32 PM PDT by Onerom99
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We have a lot more McCain signs vs Obama signs in our surrounding area. Granted I live conservative Maine town but it has been strange this time around.


4 posted on 10/29/2008 8:47:09 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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I think they have good sources. If McCain wins those states, he will win CO. Incidentally, ME hasn't gone for the GOP since 1988!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 10/29/2008 8:47:40 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: BillyM

“You can always rely on Hillbuzz for a pick-me-up. “

Yeah, but a lot of the stuff is crap...

btw, Team Obama have gone out of their way not to push yard signs...


7 posted on 10/29/2008 8:56:13 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: armymarinemom

Even here in NJ, the McCain signs seem to out number the O’s. Doesn’t mean that much I suppose, but I have heard, firsthand, that many of the Jewish faith are voting McCain, but are not saying so.

I have my own suspicions that even those Democratic strategists will be secretly pulling the lever for McCain.

He’s too risky even for most of them.


8 posted on 10/29/2008 8:59:44 PM PDT by adc (Rush '08All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently oppos)
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To: bahblahbah
They are credible in a way the MSM isn't because they're not McCain partisans. They don't have a stake in the outcome of the election. And the things they hear through the grapevine give us an insight into what's what really happening on the political battleground. Of course, it could be disinformation. But if they are right, we'll find out the score on Tuesday night.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 10/29/2008 9:00:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I have been thinking all along that Obama will lose Iowa. A lot of these Hillary/PUMA/moderate Dems in caucus states saw the Obama/ACORN thuggery first hand. They were victims of Obama. They were essentially mugged. Like the old saying something like “a liberal is a conservative that has not been mugged yet” Is that it?

I may not be Bill and Hillary fans but everyone deserve a fair and honest election. Obama is a thug who is friends with terrorists.

My guess is Hillary and maybe Bill will call McCain late Tuesday night to offer congratulations. I would love to be the fly on the wall with Hillary and Bill when McCain is announced the winner.

Hillary wants McCain to win in a landslide because it will mean Obama is over. It will also mean the Dems could have had Hillary and might have won.

Donate, volunteer and GOTV this weekend or now until election day if you can.


10 posted on 10/29/2008 9:01:08 PM PDT by Frantzie
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NJ will go for Obama. But I don't think he will carry it by double digits. He's treading water in a lot of Blue States a Democrat should carry comfortably.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 10/29/2008 9:02:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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btw, Team Obama have gone out of their way not to push yard signs...

Why?

It's all Obama all the time, in every other respect. I detect a little BS from the Obama campaign.

12 posted on 10/29/2008 9:02:41 PM PDT by Niord
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To: goldstategop

I think in a way they do have a stake in the outcome. Hillary wants to see Obama lose in a landslide.

She and Bill will regain control of the Dem Party. This is what the PUMA’s want. They helped us (and America) and McCain winning puts the Dem Party back together the way it was.


13 posted on 10/29/2008 9:03:49 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie
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14 posted on 10/29/2008 9:11:00 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: Onerom99

Juat drove from Newnan, GA to Long Island via Roanoke, Va.

On I81 from MD/PA Border to Harrisburg, not one Obama road sign. Numerous McCain-Palin signs.

Drove same route in ‘04 around mid-Oct. Kerry/Edwards vs. Bush/Cheney bumper stickers were nearly 50-50.

This time the ratio was about 5-1, McCain-Palin over Obama-Biden


15 posted on 10/29/2008 9:11:55 PM PDT by Yankee
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If Maine and New Hampshire went for McCain I think all of the networks would go off the air. They wouldn’t know what to broadcast. Seriously. If those states fall for McCain, then I think he takes PA and keeps VA. Then the Upper Midwest states would likely be winnable, save for Michigan. McCain would keep Ohio. Unless Obama could pull an upset in Florida then it would be over.

There’s two, perhaps three theories to this campaign. The first is the Obama scenario, in which overwhelming numbers of blacks and youth (under 30 yrs old) turn out and vote him in, along with disaffected Republicans - and Obama’s Dem losses aren’t that steep.

The second is the general McCain scenario, in which by pluck and some key Dem defections in battleground states he eeks out less than a 10 point electoral college win.

The third is what seems to be the PUMA scenario, in which a good part of the Democratic party simply disowns Obama and votes for McCain, leaves the President part of the ballot blank, or votes for a 3rd party. In that case, blue states which seemed to be locks for Obama become competitive.

I guess my gut reaction would be some modification of the 3rd, in which McCain wins NH, PA, and picks up one blue Midwest state, such as Wisconsin.

But if the PUMAs are correct, then McCain could be pushing well over 300 electoral votes, say around 330-340.

Still, there’s a lot of rumors flying around and who knows what is what anymore.


16 posted on 10/29/2008 9:12:21 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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**SHOCKER: Team Hillary believes McCain will win New Hampshire, Iowa, and MAINE**

That would be a great start for a McCain-Palin landslide!


17 posted on 10/29/2008 9:13:27 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Niord; bahblahbah
I have also read that Obama has limited the idea of Yard Signs (allegedly because they would rather spend the $$ on door-to-door in your face stuff) so I know where ‘bahblahbah’ is coming from / getting his info...

However, I live in NYC where people don't have lawns, but put signs in windows and the Obama folks have been giving signs to anyone who will stop long enough to talk to them...

My impression is that Obama would love to see more signs out (tons of my idiot neighbors have them in their windows, in their cars, etc — and this city is so in the bag for Obama already it hardly maters) so i don't fully buy the Obama storyline on this. Also, putting signs in your lawn is what VOTERS do when they support someone — even if the signs are homemade (as most of the few McCain/Palin signs here are) —

So in a nutshell — mho fwiw — No Obama signs, bad for him, good for us

18 posted on 10/29/2008 9:13:41 PM PDT by NYC_BULLMOOSE ("extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" -- BG)
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Down here in SE Iowa the absentees are lower than ‘04. Our local candidates going door2door are saying Democrats are telling them that they won’t even vote. I live in a Dem county. The Obama team has not come thru with the bodies to work the absentees like last time either.


19 posted on 10/29/2008 9:16:37 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Frantzie
I think in a way they do have a stake in the outcome. Hillary wants to see Obama lose in a landslide.

She and Bill will regain control of the Dem Party. This is what the PUMA’s want. They helped us (and America) and McCain winning puts the Dem Party back together the way it was.


Exactly. The hard left would be run out of the party leadership, starting Nov. 5th. No more would the party kowtow to the various moronic left wing nut forums on the internets. I also think the Clintons would find a way to reduce the influence of wealthy lib donors like Soros, Buffett, etc...such that the party moves back to representing the rural and suburban working class...and is more centrist in tone. After all, the Clintons do know how to run a successful presidential campaign. You don't win it by ignoring and deriding rural and suburban whites who go to church and own guns. That is suicidal as a political party in America.

Losing a presidential election in which the Democrats had every advantage imaginable, especially losing badly, would allow the Clintons to start a purge. You can bet that they would push to get rid of as many of the state caucuses as possible in favor of primaries.

All in all, this country would be better off with a more centrist Democrat party.
20 posted on 10/29/2008 9:19:19 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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