Posted on 10/09/2008 8:19:10 AM PDT by BGHater
ping. maybe for inventory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lia_F%C3%A1il
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_of_Tara
Looks like Dolly Parton from the air.
Yeah, scaled down, no less!
As an American of Irish descent, I have to say that all this mystical garbage my ethnic compatriots love to wrap themselves in is pathetic and embarassing.
Paganism is over. It never did the Irish any good.
Go to Mass and shut your mouth, Slavin.
“Shut your mouth, Slavin!”
Ha! Better be careful, those pagans cast mean curses, ‘bend your legs’ or something to make you walk funny ;^)
;-)
Well that is certainly....phallic.
I’m with you Randy.
Those pre-Christian people are all burning in Hell anyway, since they weren’t saved.
Pave their pile of rocks over and make something useful out of them.
Your loathing for your own heritage is sickening to me. I was there last spring, and it was fantastic to get some sense of depth, of the road we’ve traveled, where we’ve come from and what we’ve accomplished. History is important, ya damn idiot. I can’t pass judgement on the road project, because it’s a big issue I don’t know the details about, but your attitude is despicable.
This fake, invented "heritage" isn't my heritage.
Pre-Christian Ireland was a barbaric and primitive place about which very little is known - and what is known is extremely disedifying.
All the Irish myths and legends about the pre-Christian past were authored by Irish monks in the 800s-1100s.
All the Irish legendary manuscripts - the Book of the Dun Cow, the Book of Invasions, the Cattle Raid Of Cooley, all the tales of Aengus and Cuchulainn, the Firbolg, the Tuatha De Danaan, etc. were literary inventions of Christians.
I was there last spring, and it was fantastic to get some sense of depth, of the road we’ve traveled, where we’ve come from and what we’ve accomplished. History is important, ya damn idiot.
Wow, you're quite the sophisticate.
In all of Ireland's real history and accomplishments: the preservation of the Roman and Christian classics, the illumination of manuscripts, the evangelization of the North, the successful war against the Vikings, the heroic but failed war against the Normans, the heroic resistance against Cromwell, the courage exhibited in the Penal Times, the diaspora following the Famine, the Irish role as the vanguard of the West and the victorious independence movement - all of this real history was accomplished by Irishmen formed and schooled in the Catholic faith.
I can’t pass judgement on the road project, because it’s a big issue I don’t know the details about, but your attitude is despicable.
The despicable attitude is the attitude of fools like Slavin who ignore the facts of history - that is was Jesus Christ and his disciples who took a savage backwater filled with warring clans and made its inhabitants the light of Europe.
Not illiterate druids wandering around in groves, casting spells in honor of the rough stone phallus that Slavin is caressing.
Mythology isn't tradition and history - it's modern invention designed to take the place of authentic tradition and history.
So I’m with you, comrade. Tear down that historical POS and put a strip mall on it.
No one's tearing it down.
S___ on those Irish kings, what did they ever do but guide and shepherd a people who made a great impact on the World, for the better.
The kings of Ireland - who usually ruled areas the size of an American county - didn't do a whole lot of "guiding" and "shepherding."
What they did do a lot of was fighting in an endless series of tribal wars and raiding the subjects of the neighboring king and stealing their livestock and other possessions.
The kings of Ireland were such incompetent leaders that only one king in Irish history ever fought a successful battle against a foreign invader. They spent most of their time allying with foreign invaders to get their assistance in killing fellow Irishmen.
When I think of them sitting there, before the first Christian ever came to them, being all smug in their ignorance, I just want to reach back through time and murder them for not knowing the Good News.
The historic reaction of the pre-Christian Irish nobility was to murder the unarmed monks who came to preach the good news to them.
I guess condemning them to hell would be useless since they’d never heard of it.
Interesting theological analysis.
Compassion is another conservative principle.
Let's recap. I'm apparently insufficiently "conservative" because I'm not showing enough "compassion" for a long-dead caste of professional thieves and braggarts.
Fascinating.
Thank you! Its amazing how many Irish Americans WANT their ancestral homeland to be poor and superstitious. You don’t see me mythologizing Jagiellonian Poland or the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies under the Bourbons.
It's much more picturesque that way.
One of the most hilarious but common comments from the usual Irish-American making the pilgrimage to the motherland is that Ireland is "too built up" and "modern" now.
This from Americans living in Hovnanian homes that were put up 10 years ago on land that used to be farms in second-ring NJ and NY suburbs.
You don’t see me mythologizing Jagiellonian Poland or the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies under the Bourbons.
Hop to it. I'm sure you could do a profitable business running a tchotchke shop to sell glassware and sweaters at a 300% markup to deracinated Italo-Poles.
Despite your deep love for authentic European history, you apparently never encountered Dante.
Pave their pile of rocks over and make something useful out of them.
No one is paving over any artifacts.
Why the need to lie to make a point?
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You are SO RIGHT! Everyone knows NOTHING worthwhile happened anywhere in the world until Christ came! Definitely NOTHING worth ANYTHING happened before Catholic monks settled in Ireland! NOTHING!
I mean the Ogham alphabet and such — just a bunch of lines - it didn’t mean ANYTHING! They were all just super-bored in between battles and all...
And, you know, the medicines and such that those illiterate druids discovered, well of course NONE of them actually WORKED or anything, it’s not like any of their wisdom was EVER passed down to those glorious Catholic monks — because they didn’t NEED any wisdom besides what Rome and the Bible gave them!
And those magnificent swords and such — they were really just wood with shiny paint! And that jewelry they made - mere trinkets worth NOTHING!
People don’t need to learn anything from history - much less be able to see it with their own eyes! After all we have BOOKS now! It’s much better to destroy numerous archaeological sites with backhoes! Don’t ya know???
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You should be totally ashamed of yourself. SERIOUSLY. And I say that as a devoted Christian, who just happens to be an ex-Catholic, and was raised to respect my ancestors who came over from Ireland.
May your future progeny wipe your memory from existence, just as you wish to wipe away your past and everything that went before you, and made you who you are today. Their sacrifices obviously mean nothing to you - so why should yours mean anything to anyone else in the future?
Been there. The sweet lady at the reception center advised us that the Stone would recognize the next King and would call their name. She told us to be sure to come back and let them know if it was one of us!!
This place is serene yet has a marvelous sense of history about it. While there’s really not much to see, like large buildings or beautiful windows, we stayed half a day just soaking it all in.
Later.
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