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To: wideawake

You are SO RIGHT! Everyone knows NOTHING worthwhile happened anywhere in the world until Christ came! Definitely NOTHING worth ANYTHING happened before Catholic monks settled in Ireland! NOTHING!

I mean the Ogham alphabet and such — just a bunch of lines - it didn’t mean ANYTHING! They were all just super-bored in between battles and all...

And, you know, the medicines and such that those illiterate druids discovered, well of course NONE of them actually WORKED or anything, it’s not like any of their wisdom was EVER passed down to those glorious Catholic monks — because they didn’t NEED any wisdom besides what Rome and the Bible gave them!

And those magnificent swords and such — they were really just wood with shiny paint! And that jewelry they made - mere trinkets worth NOTHING!

People don’t need to learn anything from history - much less be able to see it with their own eyes! After all we have BOOKS now! It’s much better to destroy numerous archaeological sites with backhoes! Don’t ya know???

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You should be totally ashamed of yourself. SERIOUSLY. And I say that as a devoted Christian, who just happens to be an ex-Catholic, and was raised to respect my ancestors who came over from Ireland.

May your future progeny wipe your memory from existence, just as you wish to wipe away your past and everything that went before you, and made you who you are today. Their sacrifices obviously mean nothing to you - so why should yours mean anything to anyone else in the future?


18 posted on 10/09/2008 6:42:31 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks
You are SO RIGHT! Everyone knows NOTHING worthwhile happened anywhere in the world until Christ came! Definitely NOTHING worth ANYTHING happened before Catholic monks settled in Ireland! NOTHING!

Pre-Christian Ireland was neither Greece nor Rome. It was a sparsely populated backwater with a very rudimentary culture that could not even be favorably compared to that of the Gauls.

I mean the Ogham alphabet and such — just a bunch of lines - it didn’t mean ANYTHING!

There is little evidence that Ogham script existed before the evangelization of Ireland. Many archaeologists are of the opinion that Ogham was created by Christian missionaries as an evangelization tool.

Many of the oldest known ogham inscriptions explictly incorporate Christian symbolism or phraseology.

They were all just super-bored in between battles and all...

If the pre-Christian Irish did much more than fight each other or the elements each day for their hand-to-mouth existence, not much evidence of their expansive and refined leisure activities have come down to us.

And, you know, the medicines and such that those illiterate druids discovered, well of course NONE of them actually WORKED or anything, it’s not like any of their wisdom was EVER passed down to those glorious Catholic monks

The popular myth that the druids were a caste of wise healers in communion with nature is simply myth. All we know about them is that they were a caste of ancient Celtic society that performed fertility rituals and who had a reputation of being able to work magic.

No druidic medical tradition is known, and no concept of druids being anything other than a leisured caste associated with the nobility is known.

because they didn’t NEED any wisdom besides what Rome and the Bible gave them!

The monks, unlike the druids, actually worked for a living - doing the hard manual labor that the common people did. They also, unlike the druids, could read and keep records. Likely their most popular feature was their non-adoption of the druidic practice of requiring the common people to hand over expensive livestock for ritual slaughter.

And those magnificent swords and such — they were really just wood with shiny paint! And that jewelry they made - mere trinkets worth NOTHING!

Pre-Christian Irish weaponry was unimpressive. Mostly short bronze swords of middling quality - nothing magnificent about them. The pre-Christian Irish did make some very pretty jewelry out of gold, silver and semi-precious stones. But attractive bracelets and necklaces are not much of a peg to hang a culture on.

People don’t need to learn anything from history - much less be able to see it with their own eyes! After all we have BOOKS now! It’s much better to destroy numerous archaeological sites with backhoes! Don’t ya know???

Far from being destroyed with backhoes, these archaeological sites were carefully excavated and their contents preserved.

You should be totally ashamed of yourself. SERIOUSLY. And I say that as a devoted Christian,

A good rule of thumb to follow is this: if someone describes himself as a devoted Christian, he's probably not as devoted as he imagines himself to be.

who just happens to be an ex-Catholic, and was raised to respect my ancestors who came over from Ireland

Rejecting the faith that many of those ancestors chose death to preserve isn't really showing them a whole lot of respect.

The thousands whom Cromwell slaughtered weren't killed because they liked shiny necklaces or practiced imaginary folk medicine. They were killed because they went to Mass.

May your future progeny wipe your memory from existence, just as you wish to wipe away your past and everything that went before you, and made you who you are today.

It doesn't really matter if I am remembered or not.

If I am remembered I would hope it would not be as part of some fake mythology invented about me - like the pre-Christian Irish are remembered today.

Their sacrifices obviously mean nothing to you - so why should yours mean anything to anyone else in the future?

The only sacrifices pre-Christian Irish kings and druids made were sacrifices of other people's livestock that they confiscated.

The true Irish sacrifice was the centuries of abuse and ignominy the Irish suffered for refusing to relinquish the true Catholic faith that was handed down to them from the apostles.

Tens of thousands of Irishmen have lost their lives and fortunes because they refused to bend their knees and renounce the faith that you have thrown away.

Your devotion to druidic medical lore does them no honor at all. It is an invented legacy created in the nineteenth century by neopagans and has no relationship to any Ireland that ever really existed.

24 posted on 10/09/2008 9:43:07 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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