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What's On The Desk (ONOZ! JBS Mag Spotted On Palin's Desk!)
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Whats_on_the_desk.html ^ | 9/18/08 | Ben Smith

Posted on 09/19/2008 7:38:10 AM PDT by steve-b

In a picture supplied by Sarah Palin's family to the Associated Press, Palin appears with some rather odd reading matter: The magazine of the ultraconservative John Birch Society.

The picture, dating to 1995, when Palin was a member of the Wasilla City Council, ran beside a profile of Palin in Saturday's New York Times. The magazine, The New American, is sitting on top of her calendar on her desk, unopened....

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: 1995; conspiracytheory; jbs; johnbirchsociety; mccainpalin; palin; sillydems; wasilla
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Following this logic further:

1. Everyone who read Das Kapital or Mein Kampf as part of their historical or political studies is suspect as a possible enemy of America.

2. Anybody who studies the Democrats' publications looking for talking points is a secret Democratic Party mole.

3. Anybody who posts negative MSM coverage of the Republicans to inform others about what's out there is a troll.

4. The folks at CAIR-watch, who keep up with CAIR press releases, are secret Muslim agents.

5. PJ-Comix is under suspicion for reading DU threads in order to write the DUmmie FUnnies.

1 posted on 09/19/2008 7:38:11 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b

PJ should be jailed ...


2 posted on 09/19/2008 7:40:37 AM PDT by Tarpon (Three things matter when selecting a President - character, character and character.)
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To: steve-b

Meanwhile, Barack Obama drinks zinfandel and nibbles cucumber sandwiches with William Ayers and Bernadine Dorne, and that’s ok.


3 posted on 09/19/2008 7:41:48 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: steve-b

Yup. At one time or another, I’ve had The Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital on my desk. And I’ve read them (know your enemy). Doesn’t make me a communist!

Just another hit piece.


4 posted on 09/19/2008 7:42:07 AM PDT by piytar
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To: steve-b

This confirms that Palin should be President instead of McCain.

I still don’t see how she can ever get along with McCain. McCain is as Globalist as it gets.


5 posted on 09/19/2008 7:42:43 AM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: steve-b
You can add to your list:

An elected official who takes the time to look at a written piece sent to her by a contituent must be considered to be in agreement with everything in the piece.

6 posted on 09/19/2008 7:43:01 AM PDT by blau993 (Fight Gerbil Swarming)
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To: steve-b

If she reads the JBS mag AND the Washington Post, that would mean she is pretty balanced. Correct?


7 posted on 09/19/2008 7:43:13 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: steve-b

So she’s the first NeoCon/PaleoCon.

Would this make her a paleoneocon or a neopaleocon?

Ahh the Looney Left, you got to love them because they provide so many laughs.


8 posted on 09/19/2008 7:43:21 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (End the Obamanation, Vote Maverick, McCain/Palin '08; Free Laz; Drill baby drill; Stand up for Chuck)
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To: steve-b
1. Everyone who read Das Kapital or Mein Kampf as part of their historical or political studies is suspect as a possible enemy of America.

It's quite a stretch to put JBS in the same category.
9 posted on 09/19/2008 7:43:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: steve-b

“Are you now or have you ever been...”

Meanwhile Obama pals around with admitted terrorists, the Clintons pardon convicted terrorists, etc. and WE are wrong to point out who they hang around with (people who still hold to the politics they held when they were terrorists).


10 posted on 09/19/2008 7:44:55 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Mr. Brightside

Like saying if your bare right foot is in a bucket of ice water and your bare left foot is in a bucket of boiling water then — on average — you are comfortable.


11 posted on 09/19/2008 7:45:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: steve-b

Palin just gets better and better!

If Americans were just a little bit Birchy, maybe things wouldn’t be such a mess now.


12 posted on 09/19/2008 7:45:08 AM PDT by Califreak (Rome is burning and nobody cares)
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To: steve-b

If she wasn’t my candidate before (which she was), that cements it for me.

“Looks like the Birchers were right.”

The rest of you Birch-bashers — GET OVER IT!!


13 posted on 09/19/2008 7:45:23 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Tarpon

Nothing wrong with reading those types of magazines. Remember the old saying....”Keep your friends close and your enemys closer.”? Good to know what the other side is doing.


14 posted on 09/19/2008 7:45:48 AM PDT by RC2
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To: steve-b
EWWWWWWwwwww......I'm scared....

Yes, Yes,.....I believe the politico....yes, yes, I believe a bunch of Liberal wack jobs do have my best interests at heart.......

Note to the left......I'm not stupid, you'll see that Nov.4th.

Just be patient........ your surprise will be arriving shortly.

15 posted on 09/19/2008 7:46:14 AM PDT by thingumbob (McGenius-Palin beats Obomber-Hide'n (Remember, dead terrorists don't make more terrorists!))
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To: steve-b

Turns out this was just a reprint sent out by JBS to policymakers, according to a couple of sources.

Regardless, I think we have to confront the Communist threat again. This time, it is more insidious.


16 posted on 09/19/2008 7:46:20 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: steve-b
1. Everyone who read Das Kapital or Mein Kampf as part of their historical or political studies is suspect as a possible enemy of America.

Don't forget "The Turner Diaries" and "The Anarchist's Cookbook."

17 posted on 09/19/2008 7:47:44 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Remembering the survivors of the 1990 Umbra Death March.)
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To: steve-b

Produce the original or its been photoshopped IMO.

Nicely released a couple of days after smearing Limbaugh. Rush’s opinion piece this morning in the WSJ is dead on this topic and this ‘photo’ is further proof.

Birth certificate forgery anyone?


18 posted on 09/19/2008 7:47:58 AM PDT by Doug TX
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To: steve-b
Just a thought here---at what point in their slow suicide might we stick a fork in the NYT? I have a long pointed one nearby and am ready.

vaudine

19 posted on 09/19/2008 7:48:49 AM PDT by vaudine (RO)
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To: steve-b

Time for the lib librarians to scream, “What a person reads is none of your business!”

I’m sure they will be marching in support of Palin.


20 posted on 09/19/2008 7:49:40 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: steve-b

I’ve got about 3000 books. Imagine what a little creative selection could potray me as...


22 posted on 09/19/2008 7:50:46 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: steve-b

Oh noez. We’re doomed.. Gov Palin got.. JUNK MAIL.. Next thing you know, we’ll have a pic that a Jehovah’s Witness left Watchtower at her door. Unfit, Unfit.. how dare she get junk mail..


23 posted on 09/19/2008 7:52:49 AM PDT by mnehring (Maverick/Barracuda 2008)
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To: Tarpon
PJ should be jailed ...

Or at least professionally decontaminated before returning here.


24 posted on 09/19/2008 7:53:30 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The break-in of Gov. Palin's email account is the equivalent of the Watergate break-in.)
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To: steve-b

The left is really digging.


25 posted on 09/19/2008 7:54:56 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: ctdonath2

She has an Israeli flag in her office too, but that hasn’t stopped the Left from trying to smear her as anti-semitic.


26 posted on 09/19/2008 7:55:29 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (RIP Tony Snow, great American, father, and Christian)
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To: steve-b

I was a fan of the John Birch society.


27 posted on 09/19/2008 7:56:10 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: steve-b

Those who will be making a big deal about a right-wing journal on Sarah Palin’s desk 13 years ago will likely be the same ones who downplay the issue of Barack Obama’s longtime association with Jeremiah Wright, Bernadine Dohrn, and William Ayers.


28 posted on 09/19/2008 7:57:04 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: piytar

1. Everyone who read Das Kapital or Mein Kampf as part of their historical or political studies is suspect as a possible enemy of America. .................................. Started to read Mein Kampf years ago, got as far as 25 pages and I haven’t awakened since. ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz Snore.


29 posted on 09/19/2008 7:57:27 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Drill and you will need Refineries, Facilities, Housing, Schools, Shopping Ctrs,etc. = The Economy!)
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To: steve-b
Oh, so after weeks of using numerous articles like this to bash Palin on FR, all of a sudden you're posting them to say "tsk tsk"? Yeah right.

Go away, dweeb.

30 posted on 09/19/2008 8:00:12 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: NeoCaveman
Would this make her a paleoneocon or a neopaleocon?

I thought neopaleocon was a kind of ice cream where you get three flavors in one container...

31 posted on 09/19/2008 8:01:07 AM PDT by ikka
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To: steve-b

6. Robert Byrd is...

Ask a Democrat to finish this one!


32 posted on 09/19/2008 8:01:48 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Fannie/Freddie are Obama's Michael Millken.)
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To: steve-b

Please excuse my ignorance here, but what is wrong with JBS? My Grandmother used to write a zillion letters day-in and day-out. That was the only time I’ve ever heard of them. Seemed harmless to me at the time. (years ago, btw)


33 posted on 09/19/2008 8:02:19 AM PDT by stentorian conservative
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To: steve-b
If you have a copy of the Birch magazine on your desk you must be a far right nut job, but no conclusions are allowed to be drawn if you hang out with a communist domestic terrorist involved in bombing the Capitol and the Pentagon.
34 posted on 09/19/2008 8:04:07 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The break-in of Gov. Palin's email account is the equivalent of the Watergate break-in.)
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To: steve-b

Fascinating that a big deal can potentially be made by msm over a 12-yr old pic of an unopened mag on her desk, yet obamasiah gets a pass when he hangs out with Ayres and Rev Wright?! There needs to be a new term for “main stream media”, because they surely are not!


35 posted on 09/19/2008 8:06:13 AM PDT by bushwon
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I’m surprised that the reaction to the Israeli flag wasn’t an accusation of being a “Zionist”.

Funny that someone can be both a Zionist and anti-semitic in the same libs’ mind.

However,

absent from this discussion are the Che pictures and the Cuban flags on the walls of the 0bama campaign headquarters...


36 posted on 09/19/2008 8:07:59 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: B Knotts
Regardless, I think we have to confront the Communist threat again. This time, it is more insidious.
Communist? Don't you mean "trading partners"?
37 posted on 09/19/2008 8:09:55 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: lewislynn

No. I’m talking about the communism that is attacking our culture and traditions. It eminates largely from our universities.


38 posted on 09/19/2008 8:11:56 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: steve-b
Gosh, Steve, a cogent, fair post.

Have you turned a corner in therapy?
39 posted on 09/19/2008 8:12:48 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ignore the polls. They're meant to shape public opinion, not measure it.)
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To: steve-b

Eighteen years ago vice-presidential candidate Palin may have read a John Birch Society Magazine.

Three days ago presidential candidate Obama met with donors in LA including far-left radical Jodie Evans of Code Pink who disrupted Palin’s speech at the Republican convention, who sympathizes with terrorist Osama, Chavez and other dictators, and who undermines US efforts in Iraq by supporting the terrorists there. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2085540/posts

So who does the media focus on?? Do we need to ask??


40 posted on 09/19/2008 8:18:30 AM PDT by CedarDave (Gloom and doom Democrats cheer for financial despair, losing wars and hurricanes. That's leadership!)
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To: steve-b

LSD Logik: It’s okay to hang out at hate sites like the lying Kos and DU, and it’s kewl to read scialist propaganda like The Nation and Mother Jones, but doncha dare be a city council member with a copy of The New American on your desk, even if it was mass-mailed by JBS to local officials.


41 posted on 09/19/2008 8:20:47 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("I don't believe that people should be able to own guns." - Barack Obama)
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To: Califreak
If Americans were just a little bit Birchy, maybe things wouldn’t be such a mess now.

But let's not get too Birchy. Remember, the JBS opposed Ronald Reagan, were against aiding the Nicaraguan Contras, and even opposed Proposition 13, the California tax-cutting initiative. Through their house organ, The new American, the Birchers continually blasted Newt Gingrich during the 1990's and even dissed Rush Limbaugh. Sometimes, I wonder which side they're really on.

42 posted on 09/19/2008 8:31:16 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: steve-b

Let me know if she starts hanging around with domestic terrorists who try to blow up the pentagon, or attends a church where the pastor implores, “God damn America”.


43 posted on 09/19/2008 8:31:52 AM PDT by slackerjack
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To: B Knotts
Regardless, I think we have to confront the Communist threat again.
No. I’m talking about the communism that is attacking our culture and traditions. It eminates largely from our universities.
I guess the reason for my assumption is I'm not aware of anytime anyone has ever confronted communisim from our universities.
44 posted on 09/19/2008 8:45:37 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: KarlInOhio; PJ-Comix
Or at least professionally decontaminated before returning here.

Hey, PJ, they figured out your secret for safely infiltrating DUmmieland.

45 posted on 09/19/2008 8:47:51 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Antoninus
a cogent, fair post

As always.

Let me know when you finish reading it.

46 posted on 09/19/2008 8:50:46 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Califreak

Amen!


47 posted on 09/19/2008 8:58:38 AM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: ctdonath2

I, with you, have a rather large library. As a Christian pastor, I also have copies of the Koran and many other “theological” books from various viewpoints on my bookshelves. Does this make me a Islamofasist? As someone else noted, “Know your enemy!” I would rather be well read than either red or dead (or besmirched by the mass media).


48 posted on 09/19/2008 9:00:37 AM PDT by T Baden
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To: Dick Bachert; All
Can you or someone please tell me what is wrong with being a John Birch member? My dad was a member and I looked it up and could find nothing wrong with the organization. Why are they always put down in print like, say, the Communist Party or other radical organizations. What do they believe in that is anti-American? Aloha
49 posted on 09/19/2008 9:01:12 AM PDT by fish hawk (a taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
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To: fish hawk

Because the Birchers WERE right about what was going on THEN and correct in predicting what is going on NOW in terms of those in power destroying American sovereignty and merging us into some BS cockamaimie One World Utopia where our would-be masters would be more equal than others.

For those reasons, the controlled national media was put to work belittling and discrediting the JBS. Sadly for us, they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams to the point where even MENTIONING the JBS in “polite” company elicited snears and smirks and dismissive hand gestures.

I was a a member for over 10 years but let my membership lapse so I could continue to try to educate those around me to what was being done to us while answering the simpering and frequent question “Are you a Bircher?” with an honest “No.”

At a philosophical level, as the grandfather of six kids who, if these One World B**TARDS DO have their way with this nation, will live as virtual serfs, I never left the JBS! Knowing what I know, I never will!

And for those who claim there’s really nothing going on behind the curtain (i.e. a “CONSPIRACY”), read on.

For those suffering from ADD, a video series on all of this is at

ORIGINS OF THE UN, PART 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAzl21AfnZU

ORIGINS OF THE UN, PART 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0qV2OM8ajQ

ORIGINS OF THE UN, PART 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrkshIXYiPs

Carroll Quigley was Bill Clinton’s MENTOR at Georgetown and praised Quigley in his acceptance speech.

Conspiracy?? NAAAHHHHH!!

“Tragedy & Hope” Carroll Quigley, Macmillan Co, NY 1966 Partial pages 949-950

The radical Right version of these events as written up by John T. Flynn, Freda Utley, and others, was even more remote from the truth than were Budenz’s or Bentley’s versions, although it had a tremendous impact on American opinion and American relations with other counties in the years 1947-1955. This radical Right fairy tale, which is now an accepted folk myth in many groups in America, pictured the recent history of the United States, in regard to domestic reform and in foreign affairs, as a well-organized plot by extreme Left-wing elements, operating from the White House itself and controlling all the chief avenues of publicity in the United States, to destroy the American way of life, based on private enterprise, laissez faire, and isolationism, in behalf of alien ideologies of Russian Socialism and British cosmopolitanism (or internationalism). This plot, if we are to believe the myth, worked through such avenues of publicity as The New York Times and the Herald Tribune, the Christian Science Monitor and the Washington Post, the Atlantic Monthly and Harper’s Magazine and had at its core the wild-eyed and bushy-haired theoreticians of Socialist Harvard and the London School of Economics. It was determined to bring the United States into World War II on the side of England (Roosevelt’s first love) and Soviet Russia (his second love) in order to destroy every finer element of American life and, as part of this consciously planned scheme, invited Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, and destroyed Chiang Kai-shek, all the while undermining America’s real strength by excessive spending and unbalanced budgets.

This myth, like all fables, does in fact have a modicum of truth. There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960’s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies (notably to its belief that England was an Atlantic rather than a European Power and must be allied, or even federated, with the United States and must remain isolated from Europe, but in general my chief difference of opinion IS THAT IT WISHES TO REMAIN UNKNOWN (emphasis added) and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.
The Round Table Groups have already been mentioned in this book several times, n6tably in connection with the formation of the British Commonwealth in chapter 4 and in the discussion of appeasement in chapter 12 (”the Cliveden Set”). At the risk of some repetition, the story will be summarized here, because the’ American branch of this organization (sometimes called the “Eastern Establishment”) has played a very significant role in the history of the United States in the last generation.

The Round Table’ Groups were semi-secret discussion and lobbying groups organized by Lionel Curtis, Philip H. Kerr (Lord Lothian), and (Sir) William S. Marris in 1908-1911. This was done on behalf of Lord Milner, the dominant Trustee of the Rhodes Trust in the two decades 1905-1925. The original purpose of these groups was to seek to federate the English-speaking world along lines laid down by Cecil Rhodes (I 853-1902) and William T. Stead (1849-1912), and the money for the organizational work came originally from the Rhodes Trust. By 1915 Round Table groups existed in seven countries, including England, South Africa, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, and a rather loosely organized group in the United States (George Louis Beer, Walter Lippmann, Frank Aydelotte, Whitney Shepardson, Thomas W. Lamont, Jerome D. Greene, Erwin D. Canham of the Christian Science Monitor, and others). The attitudes of the various groups were coordinated by frequent visits and discussions and by a well-informed and totally anonymous quarterly magazine, The Round Table, whose first issue, largely written by Philip Kerr, appeared in November 1910.


50 posted on 09/19/2008 9:36:13 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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