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How Nuclear Power Can Save the Planet
newstatesman ^ | 14 August 2008 | Mark Lynas

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:01:52 AM PDT by kellynla

Increased use of nuclear (an outright competitor to coal as a deliverer of baseload power) is essential to combat climate change

The location for this year's Camp for Climate Action - outside the Kingsnorth power station in Kent - was well chosen: it is here that E.ON wants to build the first new coal-fired plant in the UK in nearly 30 years. With coal the most global-warming-intensive fuel on the market, and six more coal plants in the pipeline if Kingsnorth gets the go-ahead, there is a clear line to be drawn in the sand.

But the Kent protesters are not the only ones banging the drum against coal. Dr James Hansen, head of the Nasa Goddard Institute for Space Studies and probably the best-known climato logist alive, has been travelling the globe trying to persuade politicians that the best way to rein in future climate change is by a rapid phase-out of coal-burning power stations. First stop was Germany, where Hansen met the environment minister, Sigmar Gabriel. Germany is planning more than 20 new plants, despite Chancellor Angela Merkel's much-vaunted determination to combat climate change. The meeting ended without success. "We agreed to disagree, as we were both trying to be cordial," Hansen reports.

Next stop was Britain, where Hansen received a letter from the environment minister Phil Woolas in response to his earlier petitioning of Gordon Brown to lead a moratorium on new coal plants. The letter - available on Hansen's website - is notable for its "self-deception" (in Hansen's words): the government pretends that new fossil-fuel plants can be built almost with impunity as long as they are "carbon-capture ready", allowing "economic retrofit of the technology when commercially available, by 2020 if possible".

(Excerpt) Read more at newstatesman.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: energy; nuclear; nuclearpower

1 posted on 08/16/2008 11:01:52 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

This person is silly. The anti-coal people do not want fossil-fuel plants replaced with nuclear plants. They want them replaced with nothing. They also want the people who rely on the power on them to use less, or (they would prefer) die.


2 posted on 08/16/2008 11:06:32 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: Steely Tom

If GW alarmism can convince a few leaners to turn their support to nuclear power, then we should count our blessings.


3 posted on 08/16/2008 11:14:32 AM PDT by eclecticEel (men who believe deeply in something, even wrong, usually triumph over men who believe in nothing)
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To: kellynla
We are so fortunate to have pollit-icians who are going to "wean" us from things that make our lives better and easier.

sarc/off

4 posted on 08/16/2008 11:16:03 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (A History and Science Minute.- "Climate change" has been going on for millions of years!)
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To: Steely Tom

I agree, the hubris of these scatter-brained dullards never ceases to amaze me.


5 posted on 08/16/2008 11:16:18 AM PDT by WildcatClan (300 million citizens, and it narrows down to Hussein & McCain?)
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To: kellynla
This guy is barking up the wrong tree...no treehugging CO2phobes want nukular power, and they aren't gonna let us have any either. Remember, the majority of these people are horrified by flush toilets.

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6 posted on 08/16/2008 11:31:46 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: kellynla
I got a call from one of T. Boone Pickens' minions yesterday regarding his plan to save the US from foreign oil. Before she could rattle off the prepared text, I said "Does then plan involve building nuclear power plants?".

"Uh...no."

"How about offshore drilling and opening ANWR?"

"No, it's mostly about solar and wind-..."

"Sorry, not interested." [click]

7 posted on 08/16/2008 11:32:15 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
I wonder who called you. Pickens explained his plan before Congress recently as "Do everything--if it's American, it's good." He endorsed drilling everywhere, nuclear, coal, renewables, anything to get us off foreign oil, and yes he is involved in a wind-farm project which no doubt he hopes will make him some money.

The core of his plan is to generate the base electrical power supply with nuclear, freeing up natural gas for transportation. So apparently you got a call from a crank for some reason.

8 posted on 08/16/2008 12:22:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: kellynla

bump..


9 posted on 08/16/2008 1:00:07 PM PDT by milestogo
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To: WildcatClan

“I agree, the hubris of these scatter-brained dullards never ceases to amaze me.”

They can’t even organize and run their own lives, yet they presume to tell everyone else how to live theirs ... oh, wait, that sounds like congress, doesn’t it?


10 posted on 08/16/2008 1:03:36 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: Steely Tom

“This person is silly. The anti-coal people do not want fossil-fuel plants replaced with nuclear plants. They want them replaced with nothing.”

Nuclear power is the #1 path to address all the concerns the environmentalists raise about coal. It elimates all pollutants, the waste stream is small, and nuclear power has been proven to be safe and economical over the years.
Nuclear power is an intelligence test for the environmental movement.

If they reject nuclear *and* coal, they are anti-energy dolts more interested in tearing down our industrial society than reforming it to be more environmentally responsible.


11 posted on 08/16/2008 2:37:33 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
I got a call from one of T. Boone Pickens' minions yesterday regarding his plan to save the US from foreign oil. Before she could rattle off the prepared text, I said "Does then plan involve building nuclear power plants?". "Uh...no." "How about offshore drilling and opening ANWR?" "No, it's mostly about solar and wind-..." "Sorry, not interested." [click]

GOOD ANSWER! We need to give the "WE" folks the same answer too. if it doesnt include nuclear power, IT'S A PIPEDREAM NOT A SOLUTION.

12 posted on 08/16/2008 2:39:07 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: hinckley buzzard

If T-Boone is not advertizing for nuclear, is not including nuclear on a level playing field in his subsidy advocacy, then I would question if his support for ‘all of the above’ means much.

We need to - at a minimum - include nuclear as a ‘renewable’ energy for purposes of renewable energy requirements. States and the fed govt are on a path to require X% of electricity be generated by ‘alternative energy’... when you limit it to wind and solar, that forces higher cost electricity.


13 posted on 08/16/2008 2:43:08 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: kellynla
Dr James Hansen, head of the Nasa Goddard Institute for Space Studies and probably the best-known climato logist alive, has been travelling the globe trying to persuade politicians that the best way to rein in future climate change is by a rapid phase-out of coal-burning power stations.

This man needs to be fired from NASA, or at least give him a $0 expense account.

14 posted on 08/16/2008 6:45:24 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: A.Hun
Remember, the majority of these people are horrified by flush toilets.

But they still use flush toilets, and use fossil fuels in their VW buses. Hypocrites All.

15 posted on 08/16/2008 6:48:23 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: WOSG
Nuclear power is the #1 path to address all the concerns the environmentalists raise about coal. It elimates all pollutants, the waste stream is small, and nuclear power has been proven to be safe and economical over the years. Nuclear power is an intelligence test for the environmental movement.

If they reject nuclear *and* coal, they are anti-energy dolts more interested in tearing down our industrial society than reforming it to be more environmentally responsible.

But that's my point. Many of them, in my estimation, are interested in exactly that, and only that: tearing down our industrial society is precisely what they're about.

That the disappearance of industrial society would necessarily entail the disappearance of a very large percentage of the population of the world, especially in underdeveloped countries, is an outcome that bothers them not at all, and a few of them have been so arrogant/foolish to admit it in semi-public situations in which they believed themselves to be safe among fellow true believers.

I just hit on this today: if you ever find yourself in a conversation with a true hard-core environmentalist, try (if you can do so, because keeping your wits when confronting such utter irrationality is difficult, at least for me) asking them this simple question: "what do you think would be a sustainable population for the earth." If they are willing to give a number, I can pretty much predict that the number they give will be far lower than the current population. At that point, ask them: "how do we get to that number."

16 posted on 08/16/2008 6:59:07 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: kellynla; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; IrishCatholic; Normandy; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

17 posted on 08/17/2008 5:32:28 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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