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Editorial: Stop using SWAT teams on civilians
Examiner ^
| 8/13/08
Posted on 08/13/2008 3:09:59 PM PDT by LibWhacker
WASHINGTON (Map, News) - The violent assault on Berwyn Heights Mayor Cheye Calvos home late last month was certainly not the first bungled raid by a government SWAT team, but the bad publicity it generated should make it the last time these trigger-happy squads target innocent civilians.
Tracking a 32-pound package of marijuana that had been addressed to Calvos wife, Trinity Tomsic, Prince Georges sheriffs deputies forcibly entered the mayors home on July 29 and killed his two dogs before handcuffing him and his mother-in-law.
But like so many other SWAT team raids across the country, this one turned out to be a big mistake. After reviewing the case, States Attorney Glenn Ivey acknowledged that the Calvos were victims of a multistate drug ring that used innocent peoples names and addresses to hide shipments of contraband drugs. But the mayor and his family were also victims of a home invasion by the SWAT team, based entirely on what turned out to be a false premise.
In a groundbreaking study in 2006, former Cato policy analyst Radley Balko documented a disturbing pattern of cases across the country in which innocent citizens were killed by armed-to-the-teeth SWAT teams who either acted on the basis of wrong information from an informant or stormed the wrong house by mistake. One thing Ive noticed while picking through the depressingly long list of botched drug raids: The cops always shoot the dog, Balko noted. Sure enough in the local case, Mayor Calvo and his family lost their two beloved black Labrador retrievers, but it could easily have been his own life or that of a family member that was lost. An apologetic oops from the responsible officials just doesnt cut it anymore.
Originally set up to handle volatile, high-risk situations involving snipers, hostage takers or prison escapees, militarized SWAT teams have been unleashed on civilians with predictably disastrous results as the fatal shooting of unarmed optometrist Salvatore Culosi by a Fairfax County SWAT team two years ago illustrated all too well. Sending a SWAT team to arrest Culosi was excessive compared with his alleged crime of betting on football games.
By sending a SWAT team to Calvos home, the Prince Georges Sheriffs Department made the same mistake, setting the stage for a violent confrontation that could easily have escalated into something far worse.
Its long past time for law enforcement agencies to restrict SWAT teams for use only in situations where massive lethal force is their only remaining option.
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To: LibWhacker
Nahhh, just keep letting these goon squads go to the wrong homes and terrorize innocent folks and shoot their dogs.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:11:11 PM PDT
by
Joe Boucher
(An enemy of Islam)
To: Joe Boucher
The dogs were the first deaths at Mt. Carmel.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:12:41 PM PDT
by
Sybeck1
(I would rather be water-boarded than vote for John McCain......)
To: LibWhacker
Reminds me of that elderly lady in Atlanta that got shot by police because they barged in her house on a no-knock warrant. She thought she was being burglarized, grabbed her gun and got several dozen bullets.
This has gotten out of control. And for what? Both of these cases were for drugs.
War on drugs? More like war on citizens. No drug out there is worth killing innocent people over. This reminds me of the prohibition days when more people died from gangster thugs running the booze and poisoned alchohol than from what was supposed to originally bad for them.
To: LibWhacker
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:17:01 PM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: Joe Boucher
It’s time LE officers gave up the “War on Dogs.”
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:17:23 PM PDT
by
yazdankurd
(Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat)
Comment #7 Removed by Moderator
To: LibWhacker
I’m going to agree. SWAT should not be used against ordinary civilians.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:20:27 PM PDT
by
marron
To: Joe Boucher
The militarization of local law enforcement organizations is a big problem. We have more than enough Jack Booted Thugs at the federal level and we sure as hell neither need nor want them at the local level. It's getting to the point that it's hard to distinguish the locals from the Feds. Also, the locals seem to enjoy assuming the JBT role.
We used to support just about any reasonable funds request by the police and sheriff's departments. Because of the increasing trend toward militarization, that will stop--no more money as long as they keep it up. I would not be surprised if this trend isn't part of some scheme by the Feds to ensure they have help in the event our citizens finally get fed up enough to rebel.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:22:18 PM PDT
by
Czar
((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
To: LibWhacker
I’m not sure what else they’re good for. I’ve had the misfortune to see a SWAT team working, close up. Very effective against civilians untrained in combat.
That said, their use should be rare. Same with tasers.
To: marron
"Im going to agree. SWAT should not be used against ordinary civilians."
Civilians??? You mean citizens don't you??? Or was that a Freudian slip as the opposite of civilian is military??? There's no doubt that these knuckle draggers think that they are in a military unit that's for sure.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:23:31 PM PDT
by
rednesss
(Fred Thompson - 2008)
To: marron
I agree that the SWAT team concept has gotten out of hand but is everyone that is calling for their prohibition willing to accept the shootouts that will occur when a couple of uniformed officers try to execute a warrant?
Can anyone tell me how many police officers lives, indeed suspects lives, have been saved utilizing their overwhelming force concept? How do you count tragedies that never happened?
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:26:07 PM PDT
by
Cyman
To: LibWhacker
When you are a hammer, everything else starts to look like a nail.
To: marron
This is not to pick on you personally.
These were not ordinary civilians - They are CITIZENS.
The ordinary cops work for the citizens of this country, we don’t work for them.
It is time to remind the powers that be that there a two classes of people in this county, the military and civilians. Cops are just as much civilians as you and I and the military and the cops work for us.
Sam (a civilian and a veteran)
To: Czar
The militarization of local law enforcement organizations is a big problem.In Albuquerque, the theme of police department recruiting billboards seems to be "Join us and you too can be a JBT, rappel out of helicopters with a nifty machine gun, kick down doors and shoot dogs".
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:28:33 PM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: LibWhacker
To a man who only has a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Used to be, if police officers were executing a search or arrest warrant on a non-violent criminal, they would show up at the door, during daytime, and knock. Worst case scenario in 99% of such cases? The person in the house makes a run for it.
Now, police departments have para-military SWAT teams who are trained to knock down doors and shoot dogs, even in situations where there is no indication that the person they are looking for is dangerous. They don’t strike me as real cops- if they were, they’d be involved in the difficult work of actually investigating crimes, rather than knocking down doors.
The use of SWAT teams to exercise warrants against anyone other than violent felons should stop. There is simply no reason, in most cases, to use these tactics.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:29:25 PM PDT
by
Citizen Blade
("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
To: Sybeck1
I’ll tell ya, I’m starting to root for the innocents who shoots at these thugs as they break in.
It happened recently and the shooter got off free. Seems the “police swat team” had the wrong address, didn’t announce themselves or that they had a warrent even though it was for a different home. And they came in civilian cloths.
You’d of thought the swat guys would take it a little different after WACO.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:30:46 PM PDT
by
Joe Boucher
(An enemy of Islam)
To: Cyman
I agree that the SWAT team concept has gotten out of hand but is everyone that is calling for their prohibition willing to accept the shootouts that will occur when a couple of uniformed officers try to execute a warrant? That is how police forces used to execute warrants for decades, with few violent incidents.
If you're going after a known violent criminal, it's one thing. But if you're looking to arrest a drug dealer with no violent felony convictions? SWAT teams just escalate the situation.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:32:54 PM PDT
by
Citizen Blade
("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
To: Joe Boucher
That template doesn't work here. It was the right address.
Technically speaking as a "mayor" this guy was part of the institutional problem, hardly a "civilian".
For some reason the writer of the editorial is of the impression that mayors should be immune from the cops (as they are in Chicago I suppose).
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:34:08 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: LibWhacker

back in the 80's, the first SWAT team in the area on their first "Mission", shot and killed one of their own guys...
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:34:45 PM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
To: Cyman
"I agree that the SWAT team concept has gotten out of hand but is everyone that is calling for their prohibition willing to accept the shootouts that will occur when a couple of uniformed officers try to execute a warrant?"
You mean it would be too hard on them to nab the guy as he's coming out of the 7/11 with a big gulp in one hand and a chili cheese dog in the other???? Didn't David Koresh always go on a run by himself every morning??? The ATF could have just arrested him then with no incident.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:36:37 PM PDT
by
rednesss
(Fred Thompson - 2008)
To: DuncanWaring
This is a problem spinning out of control. It needs to be curbed. The best way to do that bis to make certain they don't get enough money to play JBT. Of course, the Feds will have to be closely monitored to make sure they don't start funding this insanity. They may be doing so already, carefully masking what it is for; they long ago abandoned any notion of what is right or wrong when it comes to duties, obligations and responsibilities. All three leveals of government are infected with the same disease.
We need a complete changeout to fix this.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:37:28 PM PDT
by
Czar
((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
To: autumnraine
Really wish you'd get your message across to the druggies ~ that no one's life is worth drugs. They should simply surrender, let the cops in, lay on the floor, do their little search, etc.
Not everyone who knocks at your door wants to steal your stuff ~ so, just be good, be peaceful, and there'll be no need for the cops to even take guns with them when they do their little raids.
Now, that said, can you tell me why drug dealers act so paranoic. Do they really think that some of their "customers" are really thieves in disguise who might kill them for their stash.
How absurd. Don't they know that all druggies are quiet types who wouldn't hurt a fly.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:38:11 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: yazdankurd
Or, just shoot the mean, ugly, nasty ones.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:39:02 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: Cyman
I agree that the SWAT team concept has gotten out of hand Thank you. I agree.
Because they have these guys trained up and ready to go, they tend to use them as a first recourse rather than the last.
I love the idea of overwhelming force when force is required. I don't like the idea of militarized cops kicking down a door when they haven't yet tried knocking. There are cases where knocking is too dangerous. Thats when you call SWAT. Not when you have an old lady, or a middle-aged couple padding around in their pajamas. I think the burden should be on the cops to show that overwhelming force was required.
I would normally side with the cops, but there have been a couple of SWAT cases lately that have irritated me.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:39:20 PM PDT
by
marron
To: Czar
The militarization of local law enforcement organizations is a big problem. We have more than enough Jack Booted Thugs at the federal level and we sure as hell neither need nor want them at the local level. It's getting to the point that it's hard to distinguish the locals from the Feds. Also, the locals seem to enjoy assuming the JBT role. The a big problem is that the a$$hats with badges have forgotten something. Police are civilians.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:42:13 PM PDT
by
Centurion2000
(A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
To: My dog Sam
Right on, and you are right about your dog... Matter of fact, I’d say that holds true on just about every dog I’ve met—or owned.
I saw this terminology “civilians” creeping in during the 70s, didn’t like it then, don’t like it now. Cops are civilians, period.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:43:33 PM PDT
by
brushcop
(We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
To: marron
To: Cyman
I agree that the SWAT team concept has gotten out of hand but is everyone that is calling for their prohibition willing to accept the shootouts that will occur when a couple of uniformed officers try to execute a warrant? Can anyone tell me how many police officers lives, indeed suspects lives, have been saved utilizing their overwhelming force concept? How do you count tragedies that never happened? I think the main bone of contention boils down to two factors:
i) The 'overwhelming force' concept should only be used when the case warrants for it. For instance, if it is a raid on a MS-13 gang-house, neutralizing a hostage situation, or other high-risk scenarios that require maximum force. However, the stories that are coming out show SWAT teams being used for drug busts (e.g. the marijuana case above), serving warrants, and other situations that do not fit what SWAT was created for. After all, it is special weapons and tactics, isn't it?
ii) This is probably more important than the first one. The PD needs to be doing THOROUGH RESEARCH! If you are willing to use SWAT, which means you are moving with the premise that it is a dangerous subject that you are going to TRY to apprehend, then very thorough research needs to be done to ensure that you have the right address. There are too many cases of SWAT going left instead of right, knocking down the neighbor's house, or other cases of mistaken ID. If SWAT just knocked down the homes of FReepers, I would not be surprised if a gun fight broke out and people died (in most cases NOT the SWAT since they would be moving in with fingers on the trigger).
Anyways, SWAT is useful. The concept was created for a very real reason, and it has saved lives. However it is not an instrument to be used just for the heck of it, and warrant issues and marijuana busts are not what SWAT was made for. Furthermore, before releasing such a formidable force, proper research needs to be done to ensure that the target home is indeed the one people should be going for.
Take this case for instance ....a quick double-take would have indicated it was the mayor's house, which would have made any logical person think twice (not that mayors do not take dope ....cough cough Chicago .....but at least it should make someone check to see if their information is correct). However it seems that the fellas had no time for that.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:44:15 PM PDT
by
spetznaz
(Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
To: LibWhacker
An apologetic oops from the responsible officials just doesnt cut it anymore. The dogs are just the canary in the coal mine here. People are dying and the Constitution is being trampled.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:44:55 PM PDT
by
Drango
(A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
To: spetznaz
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:46:39 PM PDT
by
marron
To: marron
There are cases where knocking is too dangerous. Thats when you call SWAT. Not when you have an old lady, or a middle-aged couple padding around in their pajamas. I think the burden should be on the cops to show that overwhelming force was required. In this case especially, there was no reason for the cops doing what they did. They charged in like a bunch of aggresive cowboys.
In this case, they should have left a unit to observe the mayor's house, gotten a warrant, and sent uniformed and plainclothes cops to knock on the door to execute the warrant.
Instead, they barged in and shot this guy's dogs like a bunch of candy-asses because they felt "threatened." Cry me a river- what little candy-asses.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:47:13 PM PDT
by
Citizen Blade
("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
To: Gene Lalor
There is no reason other than a hostage situation for this sort of action.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:47:51 PM PDT
by
steve-b
(Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
To: LibWhacker
How ‘bout having cops stop calling the little people “civilians”?
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:48:00 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(Who would McQueeg rather have mad at him: You or the liberals? FREE LAZAMATAZ!)
To: Chode
***back in the 80’s, the first SWAT team in the area on their first “Mission”, shot and killed one of their own guys...***
How did they spin that?
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:50:28 PM PDT
by
wastedyears
(Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
To: Citizen Blade
One case that irritated me was Columbine, where SWAT sat outside for 3 hours until everyone was dead, then marched the survivors out as if they were the criminals.
I’m sure they were just following some kind of policy, but it irritated me to no end.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:50:56 PM PDT
by
marron
To: Cyman
In most cases, IMO, tragedies occur due to the lack of due diligence done by the LEOs.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:51:14 PM PDT
by
ratzoe
(damn, I miss Barbara Olson)
To: muawiyah
Since you're ignorant of the situation, let me educate you so that you'll know what you're talking about.
The package was sent "blind" to an address that had no relationship to the actual intended recipient (who was supposed to steal it from the porch).
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:51:33 PM PDT
by
steve-b
(Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
To: marron
Im going to agree. SWAT should not be used against ordinary civilians. Who do you consider to be ordinary civilians and who isn't?
How do you tell before you go in?
Would you consider having 32 pounds of pot worth upwards of $100,000 delivered to their door and taken inside to make them something other than ordinary citizens?
While these officers didn't knock and then wait at the door, they also didn't just barge in before anyone realized they were there.
The mother-in-law in the house saw them approaching the house and started screaming.
The police said they started yelling who they were and burst in because of fear that the suspected drug dealers inside might be arming them selves and preparing organized resistance, or destroying evidence.
After they fact, police learned that the FedEx delivery guy was part of a drug ring. He was supposed to intercept the package before it reached the house.
The officers even waited about an hour after the package was taken inside before deciding to execute the warrant, however the Mayor saw that the package was addressed to his wife, who wasn't home, and decided not to open it. Therefore the people in the house didn't realize that a huge amount of drugs had been delivered to their house, and the police outside thought that they not only received it, but had to realize what it was by then.
A very bad series of events where the police what were basically reasonable decisions that led to a bad result.
At least up to when the dogs were shot. I have no idea if that was reasonable or not, but if the evidence shows that they chased the dog into another room and shot it in the back, it seems likely that wasn't reasonable, and the officer that did it needs to be held accountable.
To: All; LibWhacker
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A carved post and a boulder mark the place where Eddie Mies gunned down his dad last year on the family's rustic homestead in Shingle Springs. Up the hill a little farther, among the dusty pines and chaparral, stands another wooden post and a cairn of smaller rocks. This is where Mies, who was 34, died of bullet wounds from the ensuing gun battle with El Dorado County deputies. Three deputies and a police dog also were hit in the firefight that morning; all survived. The bloody date was June 5, 2007. Karen Mies, staggering under the news that her...
To: marron
One case that irritated me was Columbine, where SWAT sat outside for 3 hours until everyone was dead, then marched the survivors out as if they were the criminals. I agree- that was utter cowardice on their part. In a situation like that, protecting the officers' lives should have been secondary to trying to stop the shooters. I remember watching that and screaming at the television for them to go into the school.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:53:44 PM PDT
by
Citizen Blade
("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
To: wastedyears

oooops, our bad... the guy that killed him became their school "Officer Friendly" and that was the end of it.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:55:56 PM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist - CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
To: untrained skeptic
Defend it if you want to. There was every evidence that a crime had been committed, and the police were within their rights to execute a warrant.
So try sending a couple of uniforms to the door, knock, and execute the warrant.
Trust me, if SWAT starts up my front walk, guns at the ready, my wife will probably start screaming too. And my dogs will go nuts, and probably the idiots will start shooting.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:56:09 PM PDT
by
marron
To: LibWhacker
It's real simple. You can't be a super hero with a super villain, but the problem is that there are not enough super villains to go around. If you've trained to be a super cop, then you need a super bad guy, or else you're just an ordinary cop waiting for the day. If you can't find a super villain, then the psychological temptation to make one from an ordinary wrong doer, or really from anyone at hand, is irrestible. That's how ordinary citizens, like the mayor Berwin Heights, wind up being treated like this.
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:56:09 PM PDT
by
PUGACHEV
To: spetznaz
***If SWAT just knocked down the homes of FReepers, I would not be surprised if a gun fight broke out and people died (in most cases NOT the SWAT since they would be moving in with fingers on the trigger).***
You really think FReepers would go quietly?
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:58:00 PM PDT
by
wastedyears
(Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
#40 Above = Where?? = I can’t stand it when people post articles and others don’t have a clue WHERE?
FYI / FWIW = California, USA: El Dorado County, east of Sacramento, in the foothills / mountains. (Gold was discovered in Coloma, 1848)
Placerville = County Seat. Shingle Springs = a small, but growing town.
To: untrained skeptic
Would you consider having 32 pounds of pot worth upwards of $100,000 delivered to their door and taken inside to make them something other than ordinary citizens? They were investigating a case where a FedEx driver and his accomplice were intercepting packages of drugs sent to innocent people. They had no indication that the people whose houses the packages were sent to had anything to do with this scam. So, yes, I'd consider these people to be innocent civilians.
The police said they started yelling who they were and burst in because of fear that the suspected drug dealers inside might be arming them selves and preparing organized resistance, or destroying evidence.
The cops might as well claim that the house was full of nukes and aliens, for all the investigation they did. If they had spent 20 minutes checking who lived at the house, they would have figured out it was the mayor. To any thinking person, that would make you pause and consider whether the people in the house were likely to be drug dealers "arming them selves and preparing organized resistance, or destroying evidence."
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posted on
08/13/2008 3:59:57 PM PDT
by
Citizen Blade
("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
To: wastedyears
No, which is what I said in my post. FReepers would probably die because the SWAT would be coming in in force and with fingers on the trigger, while the FReepers would be rushing to grab their fire-arm. Let me add that it is sad that it would be the FReepers going down, because (in my book) if some masked men rush into my house they will be identified as crooks.
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posted on
08/13/2008 4:01:09 PM PDT
by
spetznaz
(Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
To: steve-b
I can see the guy's house from my rooftop.
Is that "local" enough for your taste?
The cops had the correct address.
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posted on
08/13/2008 4:07:26 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: starlifter
Exactly.
That sums up this issue as clearly as anything.
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posted on
08/13/2008 4:11:23 PM PDT
by
Skooz
(Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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