Posted on 07/26/2008 8:32:19 PM PDT by rockinqsranch
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said in an interview published on Saturday the size of a residual U.S. force left in Iraq after the withdrawal of combat troops would be "entirely conditions-based."
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Is this not a flipflop?
Way to climb out there on that Redwood branch, BO.
After floating 15 positions on Iraq, he is finally making sense.
Even the blind pig finds the acorn on occasion.
Ya don’t say? Now that’s deep, man, deep.
Yep. Todat it’s this, tomorrow we will need to see which way the wind’s blowing. He’ll have changed his mind by tomorrow.
Hasn’t Bush been saying this for years?
“Is this not a flipflop?”
It was one of the “Keywords” I could think of at the time I posted this.
Why, this cannot be....I mean, this upstanding, knowledgeable, experienced, military-oriented candidate for Commander-in-Chief said “WE WILL REMOVE OUR TROOPS BEGINNING IMMEDIATELY UPON MY ELECTION AS PRESIDENT” ....
There must be some mistake here....lying, leftist, liberal, socialists do not make false statements just to get elected....must just be bad reporting...
if he’s elected,
his nuts are going to be in a vice:
either leave the troops in iraq,
or
withdraw them as the left demands.
then, history will blame the defeat on obama.
I bet he got a talking to by Sarkozy, Merkl and Brown...
I imagine something like: “Are you crazy about pulling out in Iraq?? You don’t really believe all the crap we say about taking out the troops - that’s just for internal consumption!”
What kind of troops will he leave behind after he withdraws the combat troops? Signal Corps, Military Police, Medics, Chaplains, or Nurses?
"Uh...uh...uh...ah...well...er....ah....eh...uh....it's...uh...not a...flip....uh...if...well...it's...ah....uh......uh....nuanced....if...uh... well...if...ah...you take....every...uh...ah...position...uh....ah...on an....ah...uh....eh....on an....uh...issue....."
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Residual Force? So some US forces are to remain in Iraq after 16 months? How long Barack? Maybe a hundred years?
This should really piss off the "Nut Roots".
“...history will blame the defeat on obama.”
Viet Nam wasn’t blamed on Nixon. Viet Nam was primarily blamed on America. Only those of us that are Politically, Militarily alert, and give a damn are aware it was the Democrats.
Obama and the Democrats would skate on this one too I fear. It would be blamed by the MSM and the Dems on Bush, and the “NeoCons”.
The Messiah measured the WH for drapes already. No doubt, he’s ordered Bush to move out now. Lord Hussein Obama thinks he’s been elected by the MSM so he’s moving in next week with his anti-American shrew and Muslim radical relatives.
actually it was lyndon johnson’s mess.
and we did not lose the war on the battlefield,
we lost it on “the most trusted man in america’s”
tv .
walter cronkrite.
It does sound familiar, doesn’t it?
His appeasement base can’t be very happy to hear this, the ones that don’t understand his politicking, that is.
Just my two cents.
Precisely.
Do you think someone could set it up so we could trade futures in the Obama troop-withdrawal pledges? I think there are enough different plans now.
Yes, and he's been castigated by Obama and his Democrat cronies, and the MSM, every chance they get. But I'm sure they will all LOVE the idea, now that Obama has adopted it.
How are the guys at DU taking this news? Do they care?
Anybody checked on the DUmmies for their reaction to this news?
Not at all. Once he's elected he'll do to his hard-left base the same thing McCain has always done to the conservative base - throw them under the bus.
The media will cover for him, the same way they covered for Bill Clinton when he "discovered", after the election, that things were much worse than he'd been told, and he "just couldn't" deliver those tax cuts he'd promised.
The "powers that be" will not allow Obama to precipitously withdraw from Iraq, no matter what he has promised; they have too much invested and too much at stake. If he needs to lie to get elected, however, they're quite okay with that, because they know that they own him, and once he's elected he'll do as he's told.
They also know that, once they get past this election, regardless of which of their puppet candidates "wins", it won't much matter what the American people want anymore...
Just wait until morning, he’ll have a different opinion.
Conditions crappy?
We run.
Conditions good?
We stay
Signed
Pres Obama
Wonder what will be the tactics of our enemies. Hmmm.
Sorry to say that the majority of his base would have a hard time telling who Obama is running against.
or to a fat intern ;)
Obambi continues to prove he is a lying fraud — his boasts that he would “end the war” are now shown to be hollow by Obambi himself. His heart is with the far-left, I don’t doubt that, but now he is willing to spout any b.s. at all to try to win in the general election. Amazing that everyone does not see through him, but he does have so much protection and propaganda from the MSM. Still, it is good to see that his “Presidential World Tour” does not seem to be giving him any bump in popularity.
What about Afghanistan? I would like to know what this fool thinks since he considers it the focal point of the war on terror.
He wants to send a couple more brigades there.
Will the MSM say that Obama has adopted McCains position? The MSM claimed McCain adopted Obama’s position on the Afghan surge!
Hello Captain Obvious!
Looks like the BOWEL MOVEMENT is stuck between Iraq and a hard place. The drive bys have pumped him up to the point of expolding.
If Obama had had his way, the war would be lost now, Iran would be in control of Iraq and, with its quest for nuclear weapons, Iran would be well on its way towards controlling the Persian Gulf which contains 70% of the World's known oil reserves.
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That's not fair. You took away his TelePrompter.
Obama is just more Bush, Bush, Bush!!! /s
The radical young left backed him to the max in the primaries because he promised to END the war and get the troops out in 3 months if sworn in. He just tossed them under the camel.
If Obama want to win, then he had no choice.
Obama comes around to Bush position on Iraq .... maybe ...
“His politics are best compared to Bill Clinton. “
Yes. With this RULE #1: SAY WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET ELECTED.
You’ll have plenty of time to break promises once your in office.
This is purely a defensive “eliminate the space between me and McCain on the issue.”
Bulleye comment. Except Gallup and Ras have recorded bumps for Obama due to the trip. It worked for him. $100 million worth of free media coverage cant be bad.
“The MSM claimed McCain adopted Obama’s position on the Afghan surge!”
The MSM are lying Obama-kneepd-wearing Obamedia freaks, and here’s the proof:
http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-18-months-behind-mccain-on.html
Dec 2006 - MCcain seeks more troops in Afghanistan during a visit there:
“If it’s necessary, we will (send additional troops), and I’m sure we would be agreeable, but the focus here is more on training the Afghan National Army and the police, as opposed to the increased U.S. troop presence,” ... “Taliban remains a very big threat, and we have a long way go to before they are eradicated,”
Now the meme of the week is how Obama is ‘leading the way’ in calling for more troops in Afghanistan. This Obama guy is like a clown who jumps in front of a parade and thinks that means he’s leading it.
=> MCCAIN WAS THERE 18 MONTHS AGO AND WAS 18 MONTHS AHEAD OF OBAMA ON THE ISSUE.
18 months ago Al Qaida was still concentrating on Iraq. It wasn’t until within the past six months or so, and due to the Surge that Al Qaida stated they were throwing in the towel in Iraq, and heading for Afghanistan.
The confidence of the Iraqi Security Forces helped more recently in that defeat of Al Qaida as well. It’s not over in Iraq as there are, and will be incidents, but it’s a win.
We will have no choice but to Surge Afghanistan to put an end to Al Qaida’s murderous ways there.
It’s Surge Afghanistan, or lose it. I trust NOT in Obama.
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