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A paler shade of black - Arab racism (rooted in Islamic heritage)
guardian ^ | March, 2008

Posted on 07/23/2008 8:22:35 AM PDT by Righting

Arabs.. racism.. it exists...

word 'abd - Arabic for "slave" - often used in our household... so common ..its negative connotations.. to anyone darker skin than themselves - from southern Sudanese house servants to migrants from Darfur- clear intent to demean.. addressing a particularly dark-skinned or thick-lipped child.

was a kind of racism that no one challenged, addressed,..through a child's eyes.. on a scale of colour, lighter was good, darker was bad. The word 'abd, although strictly meaning "slave" or "servant", became synonymous with negritude. my Islamic heritage reinforced this with quotes from Muhammad such as "You should listen to and obey your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian [ie black] slave whose head looks like a raisin" (Sahih Bukhari).

When we moved to E. Africa.. 'abd was seamlessly transferred to the locals whom we interacted only in their capacity as domestic staff , grounds-keepers at international schools. While I myself was "black" of North African descent, my family believed its Arab roots were somehow genetically dominant, giving us smaller features and a marginally lighter skin tone - deeming ourselves to be an entirely a different race from "pure" Africans.

Our next move was to Saudi Arabia, where the Arab ethnicity with which I identified so strongly was suddenly cast into doubt: now it was my turn to be the "slave". My belief that I was an Arab, racially superior to non-Arab Africans, became laughable in the heartland of Arabia - a place where "Arabness" was not only determined by skin colour but by whether you could uninterruptedly trace your lineage back to the founding father of your clan. In fact, ancestry is so important in Saudi Arabia that courts have the power to annul a marriage if gaps are later discovered in a person's lineage.. blood line pollution.

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To: Fred Nerks

Yes. Bump.

That does fit with your explanations of the Arab identity you explained before.

I didn’t know then that Obama was positioning himself to be the 12th Iman. Nor did I realize there were other signs being associated with him as being the 12th Iman (Mahdi).

Do you know that if you put Obama and Mahdi in google, his own site returns in the indexing stating he is the Mahdi in the Meta Header?


61 posted on 07/24/2008 3:07:10 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
Do you know that if you put Obama and Mahdi in google, his own site returns in the indexing stating he is the Mahdi in the Meta Header?

WHAT! No, I didn't...I'll check it out now.

62 posted on 07/24/2008 3:11:27 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Calpernia

the website is down for maintenance...

Mahdi’s come and go. We have a FReeper whose bio page tries to explain:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~dajjal/

There was another one, recently went to allah:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/would-be-mahdi-among-300-terrorists-killed-in-najaf

Iraqi cult leader killed in Najaf battle

Mon Jan 29, 2007


63 posted on 07/24/2008 3:27:19 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Calpernia

btw, the 12TH IMAM MAHDI is an Iranian thingy. He ‘lives’ down a well! The term for his followers, of which Imanutjob is one, is Twelvers.

As an arab, a muslim, descendant of Muhammad, the Mahdi must be a sunni...

Plagiarized from the Hebrew Messiah, of course.

So, if obamalamadingaling is trying to pass himself off as the Mahdi to gullible muslims...he’s TOTALLY INSANE.


64 posted on 07/24/2008 3:53:11 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Ahmadinejad even keeps a chair ready to seat the Mahdi.


65 posted on 07/24/2008 4:40:18 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia; FARS

...and he’s spent millions on an avenue leading to the well, I believe.

But it’s not the same mahdi. The mahdi-in-the-well is a shia.

The descendants of muhammed are sunni.

Hey FARS, get over here. Help!


66 posted on 07/24/2008 4:44:35 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

>>>mahdi-in-the-well

Oh now I have Little Rascals episodes running through my head. “Well, well, so you fell in the well”.


67 posted on 07/24/2008 4:47:38 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Fred Nerks

Nice Meta Header, huh?

68 posted on 07/24/2008 4:51:44 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

I think he fell in the well about 800 years ago...

goodnight for now.


69 posted on 07/24/2008 4:53:03 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Night Fred.


70 posted on 07/24/2008 4:54:49 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Righting
I was wondering how for example we would see a busload of women all bagged up and could tell how they were slaves like the Saudis could. Could have been a school trip or the girls from a large family. Finding the difference was simple after a Saudi explained it to me. The slave girls all weren't wearing shoes. If you're ever in the Middle East and see a group of women being moved somewhere look for that. Most of the slaves are from Sudan. The Saudis sure don't advertise it.

Never thought I would see an article on this, something I've known for years. I can confirm firsthand the treatment of Arabs with African features. No matter how rich, smart, or devout Muslim they are, the darker their skin the more they're treated like second class citizens by lighter skinned Arabs.

71 posted on 07/24/2008 5:03:38 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Fred Nerks; All; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

Sunnis do not really have a Mahdi at all, this is a purely Shia aspect put into place by the Safavid dynasty rulers of Iran some 300 years or so ago. To create a religious opposition to the Sunni Ottoman Empire that was threatening them.

The Sunnis do not really have Imams in the form of “saints” as they are in the Shia religion. Perhaps the best way to describe the difference is to point to the Sunnis as the Christian Catholics and the Shia as the Protestants.

Within both there are cliques and splinter groups.

Clearly there were descendants of Mohammad that the Shia have termed as the Imams one through 12. However the 11th Imam never had a child so the 12th Imam or the Mehdi is cosnidered by many to be fabrication.

There appears to have perhaps been a sickly infant that died but to keep up the appearance of an heir to the 11th, there was a room where the 12th Imam (child) was kept (though nobody ever saw him). Food was taken into that room on a regular basis till the first “disappearance” called the ‘gheibat soghra’ or little disappearance.

Later. when the 12th Imam had “been around” for some 12-years, came the “gheibat Kobra” or the “big disappearance”, where he reportedly went into th eJamkaran well in Iran to avoid capture and death and never reappeared- after which it was announced that the 12th Imam, the Mehdi was gone and would reappear after 1,000 years.

The British used this reappearance belief to create the Bahai religion in the late 1800’s to divide and break up a solid clerical resistance/opposition to them in Iran.

They announced that the founder of the Bahai religion “Baab” was the 12th Imam returned to earth and paid mullahs and others to become adherants, successfully breaking up the increasingly united mullah block.

To put it mildly, the 12th Imam is a fabriacted myth that the Hojatieh sect of Islam, now in charge of Iran under Ahmadi-Nejad and ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi.

As I mentioned previously Ahmadi-Nejad gave instructions that an empty place should always be set at all “sofreh” ceremonies, literally tablecloth, which people would throw to feed the poor or friends as a condition of a vow or prayer request for something.

At first everyone thought it was to honor the Supreme Ruler, Ali Khamenei but the latter discovered it was meant as a place at the table for the 12th Imam and called Ahmadi-Nejad in to tell him to stop the nonsense, saying that Khomeini had also forbidden worship of the 12th Imam.

Ahmadi-Nejad’s response in the ante-chamber was “does he really think I am HIS president? I am the 12th Imam’s president. and at another time, ridiculed the Supreme Ruler Ali Khamenei as thinking the latter was ruling Iran when in reality it is the 12th Imam who rules

This should provide a general sketch of what this is all about.

cheers


72 posted on 07/24/2008 11:09:36 PM PDT by FARS
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To: Calpernia; Fred Nerks; FARS
The Arabs were equal opportunity slavers. They still are.
73 posted on 07/24/2008 11:16:49 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: forkinsocket
Is kus also some kind of racial slur in Persian?

Kos, that's what women have between their legs. ;)

74 posted on 07/24/2008 11:28:11 PM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: FARS; Calpernia; PhilDragoo

thanks for all that, you’ve covered the shia 12th imam mahdi story well, as I knew you would, I understand that the sunni do not have saints - but there is a sunni tradition that came from mohammad himself, (plagiarized from the Hebrew Messiah no doubt,) that a Mehdi would come from mohammad’s family, his name would be mohammad and he would rule the entire world.

There have been several who have claimed to be the ‘mahdi’, one such met his end in Iraq quite recently. But the one that stands out is the period of mahdi rule in East Africa, and I take that to have been sunni, not shia:

http://www.pbase.com/perrona/image/86057566

Mahdist Revolt
Main article: Mahdist War
Egyptian mismanagement eventually led to a revolt led by religious leader Muhammad ibn Abdalla, the self-proclaimed Mahdi (Guided One), who sought to purify Islam in Sudan. He led a nationalist revolt against Egyptian/British rule culminating in the fall of Khartoum and the death of the British General Charles George Gordon in 1885. The revolt was successful and Egypt and the British abandoned Sudan, and the resulting state was a theocratic Mahdist state.

From ‘The White Nile’ - The Moslem Revolt:

Mohammed Ahmed Ibn el-Sayyid Abdullah, the Mahdi, follows the true tradition of the warrior-priests of Islam. Like a sandstorm in the desert he appears, suddenly and inexplicably out of nowhere, and by some strange process of attraction generates an ever-increasing force as he goes along. Confused accounts were given of his origins: some said he came from a family of boat-builders on the Nile, others that he was the son of a poor religious teacher, others again that he was the descendand of a line of sheikhs. It was generally accepted, however, that he was born in the Dongola province in the North Sudan in 1844 (which would make him 37 years of age at this time), and that quite early in life he had achieved a local reputation for great sanctity and for a gift of oratory that was quite exceptional. His effects, it seemed, were obtained by an extra-ordinary personal magnetism.

“There was a strange splendour in his presence, an overwhelming passion in the torrent of his speech.’

He was a man possessed. Mohammed had promised that one of his descendants would one day appear and reanimate the faith, and Abdullah now declared, with an unshakable conviction, that he himself was that man...


Mohammed Ahmed Ibn el-Sayyid Abdullah’s bio sounds an awful lot like...Mohammed Baraka Hussein Obama.


75 posted on 07/24/2008 11:39:28 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SolidWood

So same as in Arabic. I thought he meant that it was also some kind of racial slur in Persian.


76 posted on 07/25/2008 12:10:34 AM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: Fred Nerks

>>>Mohammed Ahmed Ibn el-Sayyid Abdullah’s bio sounds an awful lot like...Mohammed Baraka Hussein Obama.

His handlers are purposely making it sound that way.

This is the ultimate weapon of mass destruction.


77 posted on 07/25/2008 3:39:41 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: BIGLOOK

bump


78 posted on 07/25/2008 3:46:02 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: FARS

I hadn’t known that about the Bahai. And I’m pretty sure they would object to the insinuation that the founder was a British agent of change. They have a very beautifully landscaped temple near Tel Aviv, btw.


79 posted on 07/25/2008 6:26:55 AM PDT by bvw
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


80 posted on 07/25/2008 7:24:28 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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