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Why some conservatives are backing Obama. Meet the Obamacons.
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 6, 2008 | Carolyn Lockhead

Posted on 07/06/2008 9:18:40 PM PDT by FocusNexus

The "Obamacans" that Sen. Barack Obama used to joke about - Republican apostates who whispered their support for his candidacy - have morphed into a new phenomenon, or syndrome, as detractors like to call it: the Obamacons.

These are conservatives who have publicly endorsed the presumptive Democratic nominee, dissidents from the brain trust of think tanks, ex-officials and policy magazines that have fueled the Republican Party since the 1960s. Scratch the surface of this elite, and one finds a profound dismay that is far more damaging to the GOP than the usual 10 percent of registered Republicans expected to switch sides during a presidential election.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; elections; idiotalert; notconservative; obama; obamacons; propaganda; propagandawingofdnc; stuckonstupid; wishfulthinking
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To: ovrtaxt

The Press is ecstatic that what they think they see is the morphing of America towards Socialism. From what I see, they are correct. Even the GOP is championing a Socialist, revered by the Press as a “Maverick” against Conservatives trying desperately to hold their party to the Right.


81 posted on 07/07/2008 4:38:41 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: FocusNexus

www.conservativerebellion.org.


82 posted on 07/07/2008 4:49:18 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: FocusNexus

“Conservatives” - in comparison of course.


83 posted on 07/07/2008 4:58:44 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: FocusNexus

Actually they’re saying that McCain is bad for the Republicans - there is a difference ya know!

And they’re right. The president is also the head of the national party. That means if McCain wins, the GOP will be less conservative and more like McCain.

The only reason I’m going to vote for McCain is the military. They’ve done a great job and don’t deserve a CinC like Obama. (They deserve better than McCain, too, but that isn’t an option...)


84 posted on 07/07/2008 5:13:36 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Yet they’re confounded by Rush Limbaugh’s new contract. They can’t bring themselves to fathom his popularity, despite their best efforts to push the debate leftward.

I’ll disagree with you here, I don’t think America is morphing into Socialism, our “leaders” are. I think there’s a frustrated undercurrent of conservatism that neither the press, the Dems or the GOP are recognizing. The backlash is coming, and whether it will translate into Libertarian votes remains to be seen.


85 posted on 07/07/2008 5:33:50 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: FocusNexus

I believe EVERYTHING that the great bastion of conservatism, the “San Francisco Chronicle”, says—don’t you?


86 posted on 07/07/2008 6:20:47 AM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: FocusNexus

Obama and conservatism do not mesh even in a drug fueled dream. Anyone “switching” sides isn’t a real conservative and never was. Obama is as far left as you can get without importing a far lefty from france.


87 posted on 07/07/2008 6:31:55 AM PDT by Lazarus Starr
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To: FocusNexus

I can’t explain that one. Well, perhaps I can in a way.

I have family members who think they are quite liberal. The thing is, when you start asking them questions about certain things, you find out that they really aren’t neraly as liberal as they think they are.

It’s the Rush Limbaugh test. It reveals that some folks aren’t quite who they think they are. Some people who think they are liberal are not nearly as liberal as they think they are. Some people who think they are Conservatives aren’t nearly as Conservative as they think they are.

I have no idea how large a group this is on either side, but perhaps this 13% figure is as good a number as any.

If you can vote for Obama, you’re not a well grounded Conservative by any stretch of the imagination.


88 posted on 07/07/2008 6:37:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: Will88

The two reasons Bush nosedived, can be traced right back to his stupid policy and insistance on the ‘guest worker’ program, and his refusal to close the borders.


89 posted on 07/07/2008 6:38:23 AM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: Prokopton

Well that’s how you and I see it anyway. Thanks for the response.


90 posted on 07/07/2008 6:38:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: FocusNexus

I’ll admit, I didn’t dig deep in this one. I don’t see how an honest to goodness Republican or Conservative could vote for him. Especially a Conservative...


91 posted on 07/07/2008 6:40:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: EveningStar

LOL, scarey huh...


92 posted on 07/07/2008 6:40:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: FocusNexus

Excellent post. Those “Purists” on our side cannot be appeased and must not be appeased. McCain should totally ignore the “Purists” because first of all they are less than 1% of the voters and second he has much more than enough votes from independents to make up from the loss of the “Purists” vote. If he seeks the “Purists” vote means that he is going to lose much more votes form independents.


93 posted on 07/07/2008 6:45:36 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: max americana

Hollywood is all tore up over this one :). They know McCain being right next door and they don’t like the unions flexing their muscles so yeah I could see Hollywood, while not endorsing McCain, also not doing any Clinton gala styled suck ups for Obama.


94 posted on 07/07/2008 6:49:01 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: FocusNexus

Well, it only says 10% of them may vote for Obama. 10% of any group must be pretty stupid, when you think about it. Maybe 10% of conservatives are rather dim-witted and are just thinking “I’m going to teach that McCain a lesson!” Probably there are 10% of liberals who were for Hillary and are in a miff and will vote for McCain. I’m sure they’ll all cancel each other out in the end.

Besides, don’t forget that many people who are legitimately angry with McCain are THREATENING to vote for Obama to try and get McCain’s attention and make him turn right. It doesn’t mean they will actually do it anyway.


95 posted on 07/07/2008 6:51:01 AM PDT by CatherinePPP
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To: FightThePower!

“Can someone be a conservative and a socialist or Marxist?”

“Yes, Neocons are socialist. Bush with a Republican congress lead the biggest expansions of government we’ve seen in 40 years. “

You seem to be attributing the term “conservative” to republicans.


96 posted on 07/07/2008 7:09:30 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: originalbuckeye
Two of the ‘Obamacons’ who are endorsing Obama are Andrew Sullivan and Milton Friedman's son, David. David Friedman is an Anarchist

Why would an Anarchist support Obama?

97 posted on 07/07/2008 7:15:20 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiftach HaShem 'et-pi ha'aton vato'mer leVil`am meh-`asiti lekha ki hikkitani zeh shalosh regalim?)
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To: jveritas

“McCain should totally ignore the “Purists” because first of all they are less than 1% of the voters “
Total BS!

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/libertarians_favor_obama_and_other_looks_at_election_2008


98 posted on 07/07/2008 7:29:16 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: FocusNexus

What a load of crap! At the end they list the so called ‘obamacons’ and none of them are bona fide conservatives except for Armstrong Williams who they admit is NOT an obamacon.


99 posted on 07/07/2008 7:35:37 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: GOPyouth

and anti-communists, now called neoconservatives. The neoconservatives, whose intellectual leaders include New York Times columnist David Brooks and Weekly Standard publisher Bill Kristol

Why did you drop the end of the sentence? You know, the part that says they are firmly committed to electing John McCain...

whose intellectual leaders include New York Times columnist David Brooks and Weekly Standard publisher Bill Kristol, remain firmly inside the GOP and strongly back McCain, who appeals to their model of "national greatness."

I guess if you quoted the whole sentence you wouldn't have been able to make your attack against the Jews, would you?

100 posted on 07/07/2008 7:41:02 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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