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Why some conservatives are backing Obama. Meet the Obamacons.
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 6, 2008 | Carolyn Lockhead

Posted on 07/06/2008 9:18:40 PM PDT by FocusNexus

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To: Patrick1

“Names?” - Patrick1

The article names only two endorsers of Comrade Hussein: Doug Kmiec and David Friedman, each representing a political movement of one.

The article ignores the more probable strategies of libertarians who can’t stomach McCain: vote for Bob Barr or don’t vote.


61 posted on 07/06/2008 10:27:53 PM PDT by mdefranc
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When I googled “obamacons” I was surprised how many articles turned up.

Roberts: The Obamacons

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/19/roberts-the-obamacons/

“Conservative talk radio host Armstrong Williams has never voted for a Democratic presidential candidate. In fact, he says he has never even thought about the opposition. But this year - as Williams told me on today’s American Morning - things might be different. At the very least, he is thinking about the opposition. A lot. “You cannot help but look at and realize,” he told me, “that if Senator Obama wins, it’ll be the first time that someone would occupy the White House other than white men of America.”

Great. Pigment over capability, character, ideas and issues.


62 posted on 07/06/2008 10:30:27 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: FocusNexus

In same article in my post 62 — JC Watts for Obama?!!!!!!

“Let’s consider former Republican Congressman J.C. Watts’ thoughts on the matter. Watts is one of a number of “Obamacons” - conservatives, including many African-Americans, who are giving the Senator a good, hard look. Obamacons believe he may be the best-equipped to take on poverty and urban policy, issues that are as important to them as low taxes and constructionist judges.”


63 posted on 07/06/2008 10:32:29 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: rabscuttle385

I would agree with that quote but the author is a nutty as a fruit cake.


64 posted on 07/06/2008 10:38:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 Olympics for murdering regimes Beijing '08)
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To: FocusNexus

“Can someone explain to me why 13% of those who claim to be both fiscally and socially conservative want to vote for Obama?”

‘Cause he’s ‘black.’


65 posted on 07/06/2008 10:50:17 PM PDT by Marie2 (It's time for a ban on handgun bans)
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To: FocusNexus

“Can someone explain to me why 13% of those who claim to be both fiscally and socially conservative want to vote for Obama?” - FocusNexus

The 13% believe that 1) fiscal deficits require increased tax rates and 2) virtue is achieved by legislation. These premises are wrong, but the 13% correctly reasons that Comrade Hussein shares their premises.


66 posted on 07/06/2008 11:29:28 PM PDT by mdefranc
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To: FocusNexus; All
This article is why I stopped subscribing to the San Francisco Chronicle over 20 years ago. They will not be in business much longer. This article is proof of that.
67 posted on 07/07/2008 12:36:45 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: FocusNexus

My businessman brother-in-law had voted Republican as far back as I can remember. He voted in the primary for Obama and will vote the same in November. It’s simply an anti-Bush vote for him with no acceptance of the consequences of voting for the guy who will tax the hell out of his business and his big-money income. This is the same guy who is threatening to move his plant and its 150 workers to Indiana and out of Chicago because of taxes and the more liberal Illinois interpretation of the minimum wage.

During the first few days of Katrina, he kept on moaning about why the feds didn’t simply come into New Orleans and take charge. When I explained to him that the feds would have to be “asked” by the state to come in before they could, he didn’t believe me. He thought the feds should just march in and save the day.

You could see the beginnings of “change” in his mindset, even back then. I don’t talk about politics with him anymore.

How can you have a conservative mindset and vote for Obama?


68 posted on 07/07/2008 3:25:10 AM PDT by toddlintown (Morons; all of 'em.)
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To: FocusNexus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2041009/posts

Thread from yesterday...mentions black Republicans Armstrong Williams, J.C. Watts, as being conflicted as to whether to vote for Obama.


69 posted on 07/07/2008 3:51:36 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: FocusNexus

Correction, Moderate REPUBLICANS......NOT Conservatives. But then, they have no clue what a Conservative is.


70 posted on 07/07/2008 3:56:50 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: GOPyouth
"I'm sorry, but anybody who claims they are a conservative and voting for Obama is a flat out liar. That's like William Buckley supporting Mao."

I agree with you. Any Conservative will despise everything Obama stands for.

71 posted on 07/07/2008 4:03:20 AM PDT by libs_kma (The land of the free, because of the brave)
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To: FocusNexus

You forgot the “Let’s elect anti-Christ and get the Rapture started early” crowd.


72 posted on 07/07/2008 4:03:23 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Correction, Moderate REPUBLICANS......NOT Conservatives. But then, they have no clue what a Conservative is.

I don't know how many times I've had some lefty tell me something to the effect, "So-and-so believes what I believe, and he's a Republican." Someone like David Souter or John Paul Stevens (who were nominated by Republicans). A Republican is NOT as Conservative.

73 posted on 07/07/2008 4:06:24 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: FocusNexus

“Pigment over capability” or “Fear over Principles”...What’s the difference? The entire reason that there are so many past Republicans crossing over is because their principles and values have become so watered down, they no longer see the difference.

This is why some of us are holding our ground based on our principles, by refusing to enable it any longer. It has to stop right here, right now.


74 posted on 07/07/2008 4:08:30 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: FocusNexus
"The untold story of the Bush administration is the deliberate annihilation of the Reaganite, small-government wing of the Republican Party," said Michael Greve, director of the Federalism Project at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank. "A lot of people are very bitter about it."

This part is true, but Ron Paul and Bob Barr are the ones who benefit, not Obama. This reporter's logic is 180 off.

75 posted on 07/07/2008 4:13:57 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: windsorknot
“Can someone be a conservative and a socialist or Marxist?”

Yes, Neocons are socialist. Bush with a Republican congress lead the biggest expansions of government we've seen in 40 years.

76 posted on 07/07/2008 4:17:38 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: FightThePower!

That is pure balderdash.

you have jumped the shark


77 posted on 07/07/2008 4:18:40 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: ovrtaxt

It all started with Bush 41. He locked up all the oil reserves off shore, who said he wanted to remembered as “The Environmental President”. And he grew government, increased taxes. (”Read my lips; No new taxes”)

The Moderate RINO wing of the GOP took over from that point on.


78 posted on 07/07/2008 4:20:33 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: bert
“That is pure balderdash.”

How so? Have you heard of the medicare prescription drug benefit? The federal government is 58% larger than it was 8 years ago. Facts are facts.

79 posted on 07/07/2008 4:24:46 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Exactly. But this reporter seems to think that small government types (like myself), for some arcane and unspoken reason, will gravitate to the left.

“Hmmm, Hepatitis C? No thanks, I’ll choose Ebola instead. That’s much better.”


80 posted on 07/07/2008 4:26:51 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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