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SF School Board Kills JROTC
SF Chronicle ^ | Thursday, June 26, 2008 | Nanette Asimov

Posted on 06/26/2008 8:25:06 PM PDT by buwaya

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To: I see my hands

That has to be one of the most ignorant comments I have ever seen on this site. Like it or not San Francisco is an AMERICAN city and the majority of its residents are AMERICAN citizens who deserve all the rights and protections that go along with it. They are mostly people who go about their lives working, providing for their families, and paying their taxes like everyone else; they are not “the enemy”.

Honestly, it is attitudes like this that make it harder and harder to stomach coming on here recently.


61 posted on 06/26/2008 11:08:39 PM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: zeestephen

I put lol specifically at the beginning of the post so you did not take my post seriously.


62 posted on 06/26/2008 11:26:02 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: buwaya

Here’s the ethnic breakdown for San Francisco

http://www.greatschools.net/cgi-bin/ca/district_profile/717/#students

And South San Francisco

http://www.greatschools.net/cgi-bin/ca/district_profile/801?schoolId=6993#students


63 posted on 06/26/2008 11:48:06 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: buwaya
buwaya,

I was writing a sarcastic comment, not a legal brief.

SF has a lot of officer ineligible student aliens, a lot of anti-war zealots, and a huge majority of Democrats.

Will 80% of SF’s residents even notice that JROTC has been cancelled, let alone get upset about it?

64 posted on 06/27/2008 12:06:40 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: frankiep
Yeah, it takes a village. You and you scandalized honesty can scrambooch.

65 posted on 06/27/2008 12:08:08 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: buwaya
But board President Sanchez said the district will eventually offer an alternative to JROTC within the ethnic studies program.

“There will be opportunities for leadership,” he said.

Comment:

Absolutely despicable, but then again this is what liberal homosexuals bring to a city.

School board president Sanchez needs to be taken out behind the barn for a very painful attitude adjustment.

66 posted on 06/27/2008 12:14:34 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMATIZATION - A Liberals Religion ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance; buwaya; luckystarmom

JROTC is a great program in our schools, and I have no doubt that it is in California, too.

I notice that the article claims the board president is opposed to the military and has been trying to get rid of the JROTC program for a while. However, Luckystarmom points out that California does have new state regs regarding what can and cannot be considered PE. I’ve no doubt that cheerleaders and school athletes are in good physical condition and get more exercise than the average student, but that no longer counts as PE either.

I’ve just never heard of letting JROTC count as a PE course. Maybe that is common in other states; if anyone else has experience in other areas I’d be interested in hearing about whether or not JROTC is considered PE in other states.

Can the parents of the children who love JROTC get involved and have some impact? That’s really one of the best ways to influence a locally elected school board.


67 posted on 06/27/2008 3:09:44 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: buwaya

Just another reason not to live in San Francissyco...


68 posted on 06/27/2008 4:43:49 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: buwaya

Why do the feds spend one nickle in SF? Amazing.


69 posted on 06/27/2008 5:41:51 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Amelia

Our CA Legislature is infested with ‘Rats closely allied with the anti-military/anti-USA crowd. We need that changed, God help us.

And you’re right, one of the best forces for change is the involved parents of the affected kids.


70 posted on 06/27/2008 6:34:30 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: I see my hands

Sorry, I don’t speak gibberish.


71 posted on 06/27/2008 7:13:59 AM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: napscoordinator

You’re missing the point. The proper response here is to spout off knee jerk reactions about how the entire city should be sterilized and/or cut off from the rest of the country with electric fences, razor wire, and minefields. There is little room for your rational, common sense statement around here.


72 posted on 06/27/2008 7:28:01 AM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: buwaya; zeestephen
“a substantial portion of SF’s students are not citizens, one third according to Pew Research.”

a. 1/3 is a minority. 2/3 > 1/3 .

While 1/3 is a minority, it is also a substantial portion, a very substantial one at that.

b. You confuse “alien” with “illegal alien”. Legal immigrants are going to be naturalized or naturalizable, guaranteed, one way or another. If they aren’t citizens now doesn’t mean that they won’t be when they reach their majorities, which is when they would be counted, if their parents (lots of them) are resident aliens. That is in fact typical of Asians. The proportion of citizens upon majority, natural born or naturalized, out of this pool, will be nearly 100%.

Your posts spend a lot of time referring to Asians my little crocodile, you wouldn't happen to be one would you? Zeestephen was speaking of the preponderance of illegals who happen to originate, for the most part, south of your borders in Mexico, Central and South America. You don't address them at all in your posts, just Asians, why is that?

c. We are discussing an injustice vs a minority of the SF population, those who VOLUNTEERED for JROTC, in this anti-military city.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see your point. JROTC is still availabe as an elective, but now those students will have to add a pe class for their credit, bfd. A true conservative knows the conservative path is more difficult to travel than the liberal one, so they don't whine and cry about it because they know the end result is worth the greater efforts. You don't like how the government and school board function in your town, then change them. If you can't convince enough people of like mind to effect a change, then you are left with two options, 1) move, or 2) stay put, but know if you choose 2, you do so at your own discretion and as such, you won't find a whole lot of sympathy on boards like FReeRepublic. In other words, you will have made the choice to live in hell, and we don't want to hear you bitching about how hot it is.

73 posted on 06/27/2008 8:13:57 AM PDT by Surtur
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To: frankiep
Oh, are you trying to flame me? I thought a mosquito landed on my monitor. Try again.

74 posted on 06/27/2008 9:30:48 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: buwaya

Ethnic studies, right next to the Learn about Islam class with prayer rugs.

Try to take sex-ed out and see what happens.


75 posted on 06/27/2008 9:56:24 AM PDT by AliVeritas (If you don't love this country, tear up your passport, leave and live under a dictator.)
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To: doug from upland

I hate to say I agree with you. The Bay area is beautiful.
To top what you said, if terrorists - or another 8.0 - hits the Bay Area, they’d better have their Rainbow Brigade up and ready because I doubt that the military will have any enthusiasm about coming to their aid.


76 posted on 06/27/2008 10:04:25 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (If you don't like your middle name, that's your problem.)
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To: napscoordinator
Since when does extracurricular activities count as credit for graduation? After retirement my husband initiated the JROTC program at one of our high schools. It was an elective subject rather than an extra-curricular activity and did count towards graduation.
77 posted on 06/27/2008 10:21:28 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (If you don't like your middle name, that's your problem.)
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To: OKIEDOC
Right you are. There is absolutely no equivalence between JROTC and ethnic studies in objectives, content or format. For those who are interested (those who are not, feel free to move on), teaching JROTC was very special. They started with a cavernous, empty room adjacent to the gym and had to scrounge furniture and supplies from our local Army installation. My husband would arrive a 0630 to find kids sitting outside at 30 below and open the ROTC area for them until school began. Within the year the kids were doing flag ceremonies to perfection at functions all around town. Teachers would send ROTC students with discipline problems down to COL M to finish their work. They actually asked if the JROTC kids could wear their uniforms more than one day a week - they were different kids when in uniform. One very special teacher - a wonderful liberal - fondly called my husband "the general." Yes, there was some lib resentment and picking at the program, but it's still there.
78 posted on 06/27/2008 10:48:37 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (If you don't like your middle name, that's your problem.)
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To: Amelia

No, JROTC was an elective but not a substitute for P.E. in our school district


79 posted on 06/27/2008 10:52:29 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (If you don't like your middle name, that's your problem.)
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To: I see my hands

Flame you?
No, I’m not trying to flame you. What I am doing is telling you that I don’t understand the nonsensical gibberish you wrote that was obviously supposed to be an insult directed towards me. The only problem is that when attempting to insult someone it is usually better to do so in a comprehensible manner, and not with words or grammar that are completely indecipherable.


80 posted on 06/27/2008 11:06:46 AM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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