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Study finds Arctic seabed afire with lava-spewing (and "huge volumes of CO2")
canada.com ^ | June 25, 2008 | Margaret Munro

Posted on 06/26/2008 1:52:08 PM PDT by theBuckwheat

Study finds Arctic seabed afire with lava-spewing volcanoes

The Arctic seabed is as explosive geologically as it is politically judging by the "fountains" of gas and molten lava that have been blasting out of underwater volcanoes near the North Pole.

"Explosive volatile discharge has clearly been a widespread, and ongoing, process," according to an international team that sent unmanned probes to the strange fiery world beneath the Arctic ice.

They returned with images and data showing that red-hot magma has been rising from deep inside the earth and blown the tops off dozens of submarine volcanoes, four kilometres below the ice. "Jets or fountains of material were probably blasted one, maybe even two, kilometres up into the water," says geophysicist Robert Sohn of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, who led the expedition....

[look what is buried buried down in paragraph #11]:

Sohn says the huge volumes of CO2 gas that belched out of the undersea volcanoes likely contributed to rising concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. How much, he couldn't say....

(Excerpt) Read more at canada.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; arctic; climatechange; co2; environment; globalwarming; northernpassage; northpole; volcano

1 posted on 06/26/2008 1:52:10 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat
"Sohn says the huge volumes of CO2 gas that belched out of the undersea volcanoes likely contributed to rising concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere."

BUSH'S FAULT!

2 posted on 06/26/2008 1:55:34 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: theBuckwheat
If one volcano can produce more CO2 in one eruption than mankind can produce in his entire existence, then why isn't Al Gore protesting volcanos?
3 posted on 06/26/2008 1:56:35 PM PDT by yobid (Tax me more. I want to "feel" rich!)
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To: theBuckwheat

There’s probably more CO2 coming out of those vents each year than ten years worth of so-called greenhouse gas emissions.

What’s the left going to do now, demand carbon credits from mother earth?

Running leftists seen shouting, “Me oh my, woe is me, the sky is falling, the ozone weighs heavily opon my psyche. What will I do...”


4 posted on 06/26/2008 1:57:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: theBuckwheat

So THAT’S where I left my SUV. Dang ... sorry about that, Mr. Gore.


5 posted on 06/26/2008 1:59:16 PM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: theBuckwheat

"Liquid hot magma!"

6 posted on 06/26/2008 1:59:57 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: theBuckwheat

Gee - I wonder if *HEAT* melts ice???

Naw... that’s just crazy talk.


7 posted on 06/26/2008 2:01:43 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: DoughtyOne

A scientist can observe “huge volumes” of CO2 and not show much interest in estimating the size of the discharge, yet other supporters of AGW do not hesitate to run models and publish estimates of this or that effect down to three or four significant digits of accuracy based on rough estimates of CO2. Then politicians take these numbers as gospel and base draconian legislation on them like “cap and trade”, a plan that will destroy new business formation in the US.

Pitiful on several counts.


8 posted on 06/26/2008 2:03:26 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat
I agree. I might actually refer to it with another name too on occasion.
9 posted on 06/26/2008 2:05:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: theBuckwheat

SOCIALIZE MOLTEN LAVA NOW!!


10 posted on 06/26/2008 2:09:06 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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To: theBuckwheat

Ping


11 posted on 06/26/2008 2:13:37 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: theBuckwheat; All
"Study finds Arctic seabed afire with lava-spewing (and "huge volumes of CO2")"

BuckwheatEinstein Gore

12 posted on 06/26/2008 2:14:02 PM PDT by musicman
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To: theBuckwheat
The scientists say the heat released by the explosions is not contributing to the melting of the Arctic ice, but Sohn says the huge volumes of CO2 gas that belched out of the undersea volcanoes likely contributed to rising concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. How much, he couldn't say.

Right.....huge amounts of heat from the volcanos don't count, only the emissions from my SUV do. A$$holes.

13 posted on 06/26/2008 2:14:08 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: theBuckwheat

The Arctic is iced and carbonated. Cool.


14 posted on 06/26/2008 2:18:13 PM PDT by decimon
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To: theBuckwheat

Kind of luck a giant, carbonated ocean of Pepsi. Yum!


15 posted on 06/26/2008 2:20:38 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: DoughtyOne
What’s the left going to do now, demand carbon credits from mother earth?

Only if they can find a way to make her pay the carbon tax! Otherwise, we'll just be made to subsidize her!
16 posted on 06/26/2008 2:24:05 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: theBuckwheat

17 posted on 06/26/2008 2:27:52 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: yobid
If one volcano can produce more CO2 in one eruption than mankind can produce in his entire existence...

Not even close to the truth.

18 posted on 06/26/2008 2:40:20 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: theBuckwheat

I filed the story along with the link in case.......


19 posted on 06/26/2008 2:47:33 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: theBuckwheat
Some 600 mya, so the Snowball Earth theories argue, the Earth entered a run away ice age during which all the oceans were frozen and ice covered even the regions on the equator, killing off most life. Then, below the ice sheets, volcanoes continued spewing CO2 for 10 million years bringing the atmosphere to 13% CO2. This massive concentration of CO2 (350 times today's) resulted in global warming at 120 degrees F. to melt the ice which, in turn created an explosion of plant life, using CO@ and reversing the global warming explosion.

But then, of course this must be wrong since people are responsible for all climate change, mass extinctions, etc..

20 posted on 06/26/2008 2:54:07 PM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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To: theBuckwheat
"..."fountains" of gas and molten lava that have been blasting out of underwater volcanoes near the North Pole."

Hey, won't that melt...the...ice...? Oh, never mind, I forgot that my Chevy pickup is responsible for that. Silly me.

21 posted on 06/26/2008 2:56:28 PM PDT by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Right.....huge amounts of heat from the volcanos don't count, only the emissions from my SUV do. A$$holes.

Those undersea volcanoes transfer an immense amount of heat to the ocean water, which eventually affects our atmoshperic climate. None of those effects have ever been seriously factored into the Global Warming Models.

22 posted on 06/26/2008 2:57:20 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: theBuckwheat
Study finds Arctic seabed afire with lava-spewing

Gee, I wonder if red hot lava would melt Arctic ice?
/S

23 posted on 06/26/2008 2:59:02 PM PDT by RJL
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To: yobid

hot magma shooting up against ice wouldnt have a melting effect right al gore?


24 posted on 06/26/2008 3:24:20 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Straight Vermonter

Ok, so what is the truth?


25 posted on 06/26/2008 4:02:33 PM PDT by DariusBane (Ronaldus Magnus: The Great Communicator, Philosopher of Conser, Bane of Moscow, Defender of Grenada)
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To: theBuckwheat

This must have set off seismographs around the world or how did they know one happened in 1999...


26 posted on 06/26/2008 4:42:38 PM PDT by tubebender (drivel)
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To: DariusBane
one volcano can produce more CO2 in one eruption than mankind can produce in his entire existence...

Rephrase: If one volcano can produce more CO2 in one eruption than mankind can produce in his entire existence then there is no oil down there.

The first statement is false, so there is no oil down there.

27 posted on 06/26/2008 4:49:01 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: DariusBane
volcanism produces about 5X10^11 kg of CO2 per year...Current fossil fuel and land use practices now introduce about a (net) 17.6X10^12 kg of CO2 into the atmosphere.
http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/frequent_questions/grp6/question1375.html
28 posted on 06/26/2008 5:24:10 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: yobid

Because he can not make money off of them.


29 posted on 06/26/2008 5:59:37 PM PDT by Nahanni
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To: justa-hairyape; 2nd amendment mama; Pablo64
There are no volcanoes exploding in the area right now, but they scientists say there appears to still be a lot happening on the sea floor. "I had the impression this whole central volcano area was oozing warm fluid," says Henrietta Edmonds of the University of Texas, who was on the expedition tracking the plumes of warm waters rising from the spreading ridge.

So if the heat & warm water can't melt the Arctic ice, where is it going?

30 posted on 06/26/2008 6:08:47 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia

THERES AN ARTICLE ON DRUDGE RIGHT NOW THATS SAYS THERE IS A 50/50 CHANCE THERE WON’T BE ANY ICE IN THE NORTH POLE THIS SUMMER..

WONDER IF THEY KNOW ABOUT THE VOLCANOES UNDERNEATH? YA THINK


31 posted on 06/26/2008 6:15:25 PM PDT by go-ken-go (i)
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To: RightWhale

Ok,

I forgot my college logic class... lol Nicely done.


32 posted on 06/26/2008 7:17:27 PM PDT by DariusBane (Ronaldus Magnus: The Great Communicator, Philosopher of Conser, Bane of Moscow, Defender of Grenada)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Great, so now can you tell me which is producing more, vulcanism or land use? (i have no idea what you just said).


33 posted on 06/26/2008 7:20:03 PM PDT by DariusBane (Ronaldus Magnus: The Great Communicator, Philosopher of Conser, Bane of Moscow, Defender of Grenada)
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To: theBuckwheat; All
In one of the reports online, I read that Sohn had said at least 10 times the usual amount of CO2 released in similar eruptions.

Volcanos belch CO2 into the air, soil, and water even when they're not erupting, no one is seriously monitoring it, nor could you if you tried. I don't doubt that volcanos release more CO2 than manmade sources, lots more.

Like everything else in the climate alarmist game the assumption is that man is the culprit.

CO2 is plant food, they crave it. That CO2 levels have increased over the past 10 years while temps have cooled proves that temp and CO2 are not linked - no matter how much al's still sore wants it to be so.

34 posted on 06/26/2008 7:57:30 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: DariusBane
Volcanoes= 500,000,000,000 kg/yr of CO2

Fossil fuels=17,600,000,000,000 kg/yr of CO2

35 posted on 06/26/2008 8:36:40 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: DariusBane

It depends on what your defination of is is....IMHO


36 posted on 06/26/2008 9:00:06 PM PDT by missanne (If we lost the war in Iraq, who won?)
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To: yobid

For the good of the planet, we must sacrifice Al Gore to the volcano god.


37 posted on 06/26/2008 10:24:00 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: DariusBane
I think the comparison you were looking for with volcanoes is the amount of CFC's they spew forth, not CO2.

In his book The Way Things Ought to Be, Rush Limbaugh pointed out that Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines spewed out more than a thousand times the amount of ozone-depleting chemicals in one eruption than all the CFC's manufactured by mankind in history. The comparison was a response to the ridiculous notion that mankind has the power to destroy the ozone layer, not about so-called greenhouse gasses (specifically CO2).

Does that help?

38 posted on 06/27/2008 6:23:23 AM PDT by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Your source is full of you know what. This is a bald face lie.

"Hence, volcanism produces about 3% of the total CO2 with the other 97% coming from man-made sources.

39 posted on 06/27/2008 6:35:26 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb

The line you quote was badly worded. The writer was comparing just the two elements in question and leaving out other large contributors like the oceans.


40 posted on 06/27/2008 2:46:39 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: theBuckwheat; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; IrishCatholic; Normandy; Delacon; ...
 




Beam me to The Top of the World !

41 posted on 06/27/2008 2:59:32 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: theBuckwheat

Russia will have a substantial Carbon Tax bill.


42 posted on 06/27/2008 4:56:47 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When Shall We Have The Courage Our Founders Had? It's Time For The 2nd American Revolution.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

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Volcanoes= 500,000,000,000 kg/yr of CO2
<<

Does this figure include these newly discovered vents and their “huge volumes”?


43 posted on 06/27/2008 6:41:30 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Straight Vermonter
It is not possible to categorize the amount of CO2 from "volcanism", simplely not possible. Sometimes volcanoes put out a get deal of CO2 sometime they don't. It all depends on which volcano is erupting. A small eruption like Mt Saint Helens, not too much CO2, a super eruption like Toba (could at super volcano be erupting right now under the Arctic?) lots.

Personally I do not believe your source, I think it is agenda driven.

44 posted on 06/28/2008 3:23:59 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Pablo64

Yes, thank you. I keep wondering what happened to the hole in the ozone. I am still scared of that, yet the greenies want me to move on to being afraid of global warming. I’m just not ready to make the change yet.


45 posted on 06/30/2008 11:06:12 AM PDT by DariusBane (Ronaldus Magnus: The Great Communicator, Philosopher of Conser, Bane of Moscow, Defender of Grenada)
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To: DariusBane

Well, you may be smart to wait to make the change. I think the greenies are now moving away from global warming to global “climate change”. That way, it doesn’t matter what happens, you can still panic. It’s really very convenient.


46 posted on 06/30/2008 2:17:34 PM PDT by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: Pablo64

Thank goodness for that. If the time ever comes that I can live without anxiety then I will have to remove a limb with a rusty saw so that I can worry about something. Thanks so much for your encouraging words.


47 posted on 07/02/2008 9:19:03 AM PDT by DariusBane (Ronaldus Magnus: The Great Communicator, Philosopher of Conser, Bane of Moscow, Defender of Grenada)
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