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Climate-Change Collapse
Wall Street Journal ^
| 6/6/08
| Stephen Moore
Posted on 06/06/2008 7:28:08 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: steelyourfaith
“..all but conceded he lacks the vote for passage in the Senate,,”
Perhaps some democrats have a little common sense, after all.
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posted on
06/06/2008 7:49:07 PM PDT
by
353FMG
(What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
To: ovrtaxt
Actually it does. Despite your beliefs, McCains cap and trade was far more benign. Additionally, this is not a natural position for Republicans and those left in the Congress will be able to sway McCain from his position if he wants their support on other bills. With Obama there is no bargaining.
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posted on
06/06/2008 7:52:26 PM PDT
by
Round 9
To: steelyourfaith
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posted on
06/06/2008 7:53:40 PM PDT
by
littlehouse36
(Thou shalt not teach theory as science!)
To: television is just wrong
And the average wage in both countries is less than 100 dollars a week (55 in Iran, 75 in Iraq)
everything is relative. ;-)
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posted on
06/06/2008 7:53:42 PM PDT
by
doc1019
(I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
To: chaos_5
“Now to stall this madness long enough that they cant ignore the cooling trend that is happening.....”
Bingo there!!.. IMHO they were rushing this bill for that very reason!!
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posted on
06/06/2008 7:54:35 PM PDT
by
mo
To: steelyourfaith
This is overly optimistic. These enviro-nuts won’t give up this easily.
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posted on
06/06/2008 7:57:47 PM PDT
by
devere
To: TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; Fiddlstix; Timeout; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; ...
Before the 2006 election Anthropogenic Global Warming was gaining very little traction politically. There were two obstacles in Congress: Senator James Inhofe, the then chairmen of the House and Senate on Environment and Public Works, and Richard Pombo (then House Resources Committee Chairman) through which any kind of Anthropogenic Global Warming legislation would have had to passwho ensured that no such legislation did.
During the 2006 election cycle, Pombo was targeted by green/ecotard groups and defeated by his Democratic rival. Senator Inhofe lost his chairmanship when the Democrats won a majority in the Senate. So the current push for "cap-and-trade" throttle on capitalism is a direct result of the Republican loss of Congress in 2006.
All, however, is not lost, as this Stephen Moore article indicates. The recent legislative reception of the Warner-Lieberman bill shows that cap-and-trade can be defeated. Although the bill was never expected to become law this time around (President Bush threatened to veto), this was supposed to be a test run, a show of strength on the part of the Anthropogenic Global Warming advocates, who had hoped to put it over the top, perhaps as early as 2009.
Two reasoned arguments seem to have prevailed. The first being the obvious fact that this bill will make energy more expensive and cripple the economy, and the second being the fact that cap-and-trade is a vast reserve of corruption, special favors, and government subsidies.
Calculate your one-day Carbon Belch !
To: Burkean
“I dont understand why they cant be satisfied with a happy medium that pushes whatever they can all agree onlike conserve what you can, dont litter, recycle when it makes sense to do so, dont waste money and resources, etc. Why do they have to make some kind of new religion out of it and cram it down peoples throats? When I was growing up there were pushes to recycle paper, glass, plastic, and if you are interested in saving money you will also figure out ways to save gas, electricity, and water. But they have just run it into the ground and used very questionable science to back up their agenda.”
It is all about belief and power and defeating capitalism. Everybody can agree to be conservationists. The conservationists were drummed out of the “environmentalist” movement decades ago. Environmentalist is just the latest name for the bunch that wants to tell you how to live to make themselves feel superior.
To: ovrtaxt
Or wait till some judge discovers that “cap and trade” is mandated by the Constitution. Who knew?
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posted on
06/06/2008 8:07:35 PM PDT
by
rbg81
(DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
To: the anti-liberal
We today confirm the recent announcement by NASA that there are historic and important changes taking place on the suns surface. This will have only one outcome - a new climate change is coming that will bring an extended period of deep cold to the planet. And the Democrats prepare to sue the sun to make it stop.
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posted on
06/06/2008 8:08:54 PM PDT
by
FatherofFive
(Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
To: steelyourfaith
Two reasoned arguments seem to have prevailed. The first being the obvious fact that this bill will make energy more expensive and cripple the economy, and the second being the fact that cap-and-trade is a vast reserve of corruption, special favors, and government subsidies. Neither "reasoned argument", however, will cut any ice with an enlarged Democrat majority and a Democrat President.
Indeed, the consequences are exactly what they are trying to achieve.
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posted on
06/06/2008 8:09:50 PM PDT
by
okie01
(THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
To: steelyourfaith
Environmentalists Socialists are stunned that their global warming agenda is in collapse.
This has nothing to do with the environment folks. The environment is one of many means the socialists use to replace the Constitution with a strong centralized government that takes power and freedom away from the people. Don't be surprised sometime in the future they try to pass it again by attaching similar legislation to another bill such as military appropriations etc...
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posted on
06/06/2008 8:12:08 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: steelyourfaith
June 1st - 7th......Auburn, Washington...please send us some Global WARMING!!!!
1
Actual: 58 | 50
Precip: 0.00
Average: 67 | 50
Precip: 0.05
2
Actual: 62 | 47
Precip: 0.03
Average: 67 | 50
Precip: 0.05
3
Actual: 58 | 48
Precip: 0.58
Average: 67 | 50
Precip: 0.06
4
Actual: 59 | 46
Precip: 0.26
Average: 68 | 50
Precip: 0.06
5
Actual: 54 | 47
Precip: 0.19
Average: 68 | 50
Precip: 0.06
6
Actual: 54 | 47
Precip: 0.37
Average: 68 | 50
Precip: 0.06
7
Forecast: 58 | 45
Chance of Rain
Average: 68 | 51
Precip: 0.06
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posted on
06/06/2008 8:15:29 PM PDT
by
goodnesswins
(Liberals learning curves are pretty flat,)
Since global cooling appears to be the newest paradigm, I fully expect the greenies to come out in force with some type of new proposed legislation in a year or two so that “we don’t all freeze to death.” You may laugh now but mark my words!
To: WorkingClassFilth; preacher; devere; okie01
Clearly this issue is not over.
Those of us who just want to live the traditional American Dream are under constant assault by those on the left who are all about “change”. The least we can do is take some time out of our normal every-day-lives to let our elected officials know that we care and are watching them, eh?
How about a revenue neutral carbon tax? Use it to replace both corporate and individual income taxes. We could reduce the size of government and carbon output at the same time! ;)
To: steelyourfaith
it would appear the political consensus on global warming was as exaggerated as the alleged scientific consensus.
It would be appear the masses have wised up to the scam.
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posted on
06/06/2008 8:23:02 PM PDT
by
Thrownatbirth
(.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
To: littlehouse36
How about
AN INCONVENIENT POOF
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posted on
06/06/2008 8:29:48 PM PDT
by
Enchante
(Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
To: WorkingClassFilth
McQueeg’s on board with this crap, too.
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posted on
06/06/2008 8:38:55 PM PDT
by
Humble Servant
( Keep it simple - do what's right.)
To: WorkingClassFilth
"Dont kid yourself about the failure of this measure to pass. Theyll be back again" You're absolutely right. Don't even dare think that this thing has come to an end.
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posted on
06/06/2008 8:42:14 PM PDT
by
davisfh
( Islam is a serious mental illness)
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