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Was the Iraq War Worth It?
American Thinker ^ | June 02, 2008 | Jeff Lukens

Posted on 06/01/2008 11:59:42 PM PDT by neverdem

[Th]ey say if it bleeds, it leads on the nightly news. The recent silence from the mainstream news media on Iraq, however, is speaking volumes. While the war remains unpopular, our success there has been unmistakable. The Iraqi people, with the help of the U.S. led coalition, have succeeded in establishing the world’s first Arab democracy. Their achievement is a milestone in the war on terror and for the cause of liberty.

Beyond the Iraqi Constitution and the elections, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has emerged as the true leader of the governing coalition. He has battled and won against fellow Shiite and problem child Muqtada al-Sadr and his militia. The Sunni, Shiite and Kurd people work together in a national Iraqi Army. Together, they are taking their county back from the foreign insurgents that have invaded their homeland. Iraqi troops took the lead in clearing Basra and Sadr City, and are now finishing off the insurgent remnants.

No one likes to go to war, but even an elective war is sometimes necessary. With all the consternation these past years, President Bush may finally be able to say "Mission Accomplished" to what he originally set out to do.

This we know, Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction. He even gassed his own Kurd and Shiite populations in the 1980s. What happened to those chemical weapons? Who knows? Whether they buried them in the ground somewhere or trucked off to Syria, we had every reason to believe he had them.

In the months leading up to the war, Saddam acted as if he were hiding a nuclear program by obstructing UN inspectors visiting his installations. We have since concluded that his nuclear program was still in its infancy, but we could not have known that then. Saddam's power was in his bluff, but his bluff was called.

Following 9/11, we had to show we meant business in the fight on terror. Afghanistan fell quickly, but it was a sideshow. Look at any map of the Middle East and smack in the middle of it is Iraq. Think about it, if we could flip Iraq form a dictatorial state that sponsored terrorism to a democratic republic, there would be profound implications throughout the region. When most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi, we needed to show Saudi Arabia, as much as anyone, our resolve. Regime change in Iraq was militarily and politically feasible, so Iraq was where Bush chose to make his move.

Saddam fell quickly too, but the subsequent insurgency dragged on for another five years. Though our casualties have been mercifully low, the political angst against Bush has grown virulent. Maybe Bush could have handled the occupation better, and the war should have been over more quickly, but our reason to go there was strategically sound. Bush made the proper decision with the urgency of 9/11 still fresh, and with the information available to him at that time.

In the early years of the Civil War, Lincoln lost battle after battle with a revolving door of generals who could not or would not fight Robert E. Lee. Lincoln finally found his general with Ulysses S. Grant who took after Lee's army and ground it down.

Bush had a similar problem with Donald Rumsfeld and generals who would not adapt to insurgents who did not wear uniforms and hid among the people. Bush finally replaced Rumsfeld and found his Generals in David Petraeus and Ray Odierno. The counterinsurgency strategy they employed made quick work of our enemies in Iraq.

Back in the U.S., however, liberal opposition to the war has at times reached hysterical levels and threatened to unravel all that we sought to achieve. Some things do not change. They have been acting this way since our days in Vietnam. And like our experience there, instead of finding ways to win they sought the worst possible outcome by unilateral surrender.

Liberals have never considered Bush a legitimate president. They have never gotten over the myth that the 2000 election was stolen. For them, Bush's decision to enter into an elective war that took longer than expected was just too much. His presidency is too emotional a subject for them, and reasoning with them about any aspect of it has become nearly impossible. But for anyone who still cares and is willing to listen, what we are seeing in Iraq today is exactly what we set out to accomplish from the beginning -- establish a beachhead for democracy in the Middle East.

Before the war, state sponsors of terrorism in the Middle East were Iran, Syria, Libya and Iraq. Today, only Iran and Syria remain -- with a democratic Iraq located between them. And in the information age, don't believe for a moment that the infectious seeds of freedom are not being sown in those countries and throughout the region. The promise of freedom for the oppressed is America's greatest strategic weapon in this war. In due time, tyrants in those countries may come to fear their own people more than any army that may threaten them.

We must remember that the struggle in Iraq is only one campaign in the larger global war on terror. History will intimately judge, but yes, early indications are that President Bush's victory was a worthy step in that overall goal.

Radical Islam is at war with the civilized world because of our tolerant values toward women, different lifestyles and different religions. For Americans, understanding the threat posed by this enemy, finding ways to triumph over them, and mobilizing public opinion to support that effort remain as challenges for the years ahead.



TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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1 posted on 06/01/2008 11:59:42 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I’ve had the same article/question asked since 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, and I have the same answer: F’N yes.


2 posted on 06/02/2008 12:05:59 AM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

Of Course it made us even more of a Lethal Power in Learning Urban Combat with our Strijing Power!


3 posted on 06/02/2008 12:08:48 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder (Contractor From Arifjan Kuwait where the Weather is over a 100 F plus always Partly Sandy!)
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To: neverdem

Someone’s ass needed to be kicked, and Iraq was the ideal candidate for the role. Large-scale terrorism requires state sponsorship, and if the states are afraid to do the sponsoring, terrorism will take a huge hit.


4 posted on 06/02/2008 12:11:56 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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To: neverdem

About 5 years ago, W, in a candid moment that nobody noticed, though I’m sure the video can be found, said we could go into Depression if we didn’t handle the ME carefully.

He was being honest about how we could all go back to eating grubs if the oil flow wasn’t protected.

I wish I could find that clip. It’s the most Presidential moment I’ve seen from him. He actually brought up the D word, at a time of growth, and he said it with alarm.


5 posted on 06/02/2008 12:15:20 AM PDT by txhurl (Hirari, Owari ne" ("It's Over for Hillary, Isn't it?"))
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To: neverdem
This we know, Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction. He even gassed his own Kurd and Shiite populations in the 1980s. What happened to those chemical weapons? Who knows? Whether they buried them in the ground somewhere or trucked off to Syria, we had every reason to believe he had them.

Damn! I'm suing for plagerism. I said exactly those same points on many posts on Free Republic.

6 posted on 06/02/2008 12:24:10 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual!)
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To: neverdem

My vote; F’N YES also!!


7 posted on 06/02/2008 12:28:12 AM PDT by Ricebug (NKP RTAFB 70/71)
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To: neverdem

It’s half worth it.

Iran is the other half.


8 posted on 06/02/2008 12:29:17 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (He who puts up with insult invites injury. - Proverb)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

100% Ditto. Afghanistan and Iraq are unfinished business as long as the Mullahs rule Iran.


9 posted on 06/02/2008 12:31:14 AM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support of Obama. Period.)
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To: neverdem
Bush had a similar problem with Donald Rumsfeld and generals who would not adapt to insurgents who did not wear uniforms and hid among the people. Bush finally replaced Rumsfeld and found his Generals in David Petraeus and Ray Odierno. The counterinsurgency strategy they employed made quick work of our enemies in Iraq.

Bush didn't have a problem with Rumsfeld. The Democrats did.
10 posted on 06/02/2008 12:42:51 AM PDT by Terpfen (Romney's loss in Florida is STILL a catastrophe. Hello, McCandidate!)
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To: Terpfen

Rumsfeld was wrong on troop levels. Hindsight is 50/50 but the surge should have taken place earlier. Despite their unpopularity among many here on FR, McCain and Kristol were right on this all along.


11 posted on 06/02/2008 12:48:45 AM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support of Obama. Period.)
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To: neverdem
Was the Iraq War Worth It?

Well, if you're a liberal, the answer is NO...no way Americans should be dying for a bunch of brown skinned people....but that's because liberals are inherently racists.

12 posted on 06/02/2008 12:50:34 AM PDT by highlander_UW (illegal alien is to an undocumented worker as a drug dealer is to an unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: txflake

I think history will be good to W.


13 posted on 06/02/2008 12:55:07 AM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: Aria

Me too. He did what he had to do with a situation he inherited from the Clinton administration and international organizations without installing a strongman regime.


14 posted on 06/02/2008 1:13:50 AM PDT by paristwelve
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To: neverdem
Was which Iraq war worth what to whom?

Which war are we talking about? The initial invasion? The early occupation? The overthrow of the Baathists? Or later, when we tried our hand at nation building, or later still when we first realized we needed to switch to counterinsurgency mode. There have been lots of little wars against AQI and JAM, Sunni extremism and Iranian influence. Some are resolved, some are ongoing. Which war do we mean?

What value are we talking about? Taxpayer dollars? Human life? U.S. prestige? All parties involved have paid a number of prices. Some of them low by historic standards, some of them high. Are we getting a good return on our investment?

Who are we talking about this value applying to? The U.S. taxpayer? The U.S. citizen, who wants to send a message the U.S. will not stand for Saddam's thuglike actions and WMD ambitions? The Soldier on his 4th rotation? The Sunni who hasn't had regular electrical power since the invasion? The Kurdish nationalist who no longer has to worry about Saddam's goons disappearing him and his family? The Shia laborer who's now free to be as fundamentalist and extreme as he wants in his religious practice, without a secular government to hold him back? The average European, who's afraid of inflamed tensions with their aggressive Muslim minorities?

The answer to 'Was Iraq worth it?' depends deeply on what you project onto the question. It's easy to argue one way or the other, for whatever result you want.

15 posted on 06/02/2008 1:20:31 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate" Ibn Warraq)
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To: SolidWood
Rumsfeld was wrong on troop levels. Hindsight is 50/50 but the surge should have taken place earlier. Despite their unpopularity among many here on FR, McCain and Kristol were right on this all along.

You are right, SolidWood. Rumsfeld cost this country so very much. As inspiring as he was for the initial offensive operations, it would have been nice if he could have been a positive influence after...but he failed to appreciate the change in the situation, and his arrogant dismissal of the generals who did recognize the changing situation (remember the patronizing condescention against Gen. Pace?) kept us bogged down in ineffectiveness.

But remember that ultimately, it is the responsibility of George W. Bush. Sec. Rumsfeld offerred to resign, but Pres. Bush kept him on. If only the initial resignation had been accepted, we could be remembering Sec. Rumsfeld as having led a brilliant campaign to take Iraq, and thousands of Americans and Iraqis would still alive, with hundreds of billions of dollars saved, with Al Q on the ropes years sooner.

But then again, if Pres. Bush did not have such loyalty to his close associates, perhaps he wouldn't be where he is today...and we'd have had AlGore in there.

16 posted on 06/02/2008 1:21:52 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: SolidWood
One could argue that Iraq had to come to the low point that it did just prior the surge in order for there to be success overall. The blood letting that Arabs perpetrated on fellow Arabs that we refused to do ourselves when we invaded provided the public turning point against the barbarians among them. They were faced with the true cost of what the Islamist had planned for them or cooperation with us towards peace and self governance.
17 posted on 06/02/2008 1:22:18 AM PDT by DB
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To: neverdem

“tolerant values toward women”...Isn’t there a better way to say this? Tolerating someone just doesn’t quite capture the magic.


18 posted on 06/02/2008 1:48:12 AM PDT by conservativepoet (The chief aim of order within Christianity is to make room for good things to romp and play.)
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To: neverdem

The author forgets the “no-pest strip” strategy which essentially depopulated Islam of its more virulent anti-US mental cases. They flocked to Iraq on Bush’s dare (Bring ‘em on!) and were slaughtered like pigs.


19 posted on 06/02/2008 3:32:32 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: neverdem

bump


20 posted on 06/02/2008 3:37:20 AM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect Hillary Clinton as its president has forfeited its right to exist.)
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