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National Spelling Bee Brings Out Protesters Who R Thru With Through
The Wall Street Journal ^ | May 30, 2008 | Rebecca Dana

Posted on 05/30/2008 7:29:11 AM PDT by MissouriConservative

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To: MissouriConservative
Reformers, including Mark Twain, Charles Darwin and Theodore Roosevelt, argued that phonetic spellings would make it easier for children, foreigners and adults with learning disabilities to read and write.

This is simply not true. A large number of the children with learning disabilities that I work with have little to no phonics skills and are dependent upon the development of sight word vocabulary to learn how to read and write. Using a phonics based system would not help, but would certainly hinder their progress.

41 posted on 05/30/2008 8:39:38 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: MissouriConservative
I am reminded of the movie Idiocracy where 500 years in the future the English language has been reduced to a mixture of Hillbilly, Valley Girl and street talk and spelling has been reduced to crude phonetic renditions of words.
42 posted on 05/30/2008 8:47:12 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: weegee

I’d hate to be the parent of a child who found this out the hard way. All it takes is for one child to observe the game in progress and claim they feel threatened, then it’s “Katie, bar the door!” And children are never vindictive, are they?


43 posted on 05/30/2008 8:51:29 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: MissouriConservative
In a former lifetime I was an orchestra teacher. My first job was teaching in an outreach program of a full time professional orchestra in the South. I essentially went to several inner city and suburban schools each week teaching beginners how to play stringed instruments. The director of the program wrote her own method book and insisted that the teachers in the program use it. This book was not published. It was sloppily hand-written. She had it copied and cheaply bound at Kinko's, and charged students additional money for it.

In her method, she used an entirely different form of notation based on numbers and dashes to represent fingers on the strings and length of notes. In fact, the method didn't even use any common musical terms. This was to be used for at least a year or more. By the time the students got to reading real musical notation, they had no idea what to do with it. My argument against that method is that if you are going to teach children some sort of notation, you should probably teach them the one the rest of the world uses.

As my former college adviser once said, "Kids are young. They aren't dumb."

We're dumbing down our society if we continue allowing the least common denominator to decide how we live.

44 posted on 05/30/2008 8:52:16 AM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: MissouriConservative

Don’t get me wrong - I’m not jumping on this band wagon do “dumb-down” our way of spelling, but it is interesting how the human mind can read even horribly misspelled words, and do so quite efficiently.

This floated around the internet awhile back.

Cna yuo raed tihs?

I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno’t mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!


45 posted on 05/30/2008 8:54:32 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: MissouriConservative
Hey my six year old Kindergartener does a pretty good job. (This was a math equation that he had to "draw")


46 posted on 05/30/2008 8:54:54 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: MissouriConservative

Why would someone want to destroy such a great and fascinating language?


47 posted on 05/30/2008 8:58:21 AM PDT by montag813
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To: MissouriConservative
National Spelling Bee Brings Out Protesters Who R Thru With Through

In the world of Architectural Drafting (construction blue prints) we've been using 'Thru' at least since the 1970's.

There isn't a lot of extra room on a 42"x30" print for notes so anything that can be abbreviated, is. This still holds true even with CAD. You can only make the font size so small before its useless in the field (construction site).

But for Formal / Proper use in English spelling .. fugetaboutit. (/s)

NO to Ebonics and NO to 'Thru'.

48 posted on 05/30/2008 8:58:37 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Please see Romalda Spalding’s “The Writing Road to Reading”. English is overwhelmingly phonetic if you are actually taught the phonemes and the phonograms that represent them. 70 phonograms (letters and letter combinations) and 30 usage and punctuation rules.

100 little facts and you can read, write, spell and speak the English language. Most people think English isn’t phonetic because they have never been taught the full code and the history behind it.

Instead they’ve learned a mishmash of various sight reading methods with a little bit of phonics and think spelling is impossible and illogical.

Miseducation at it’s best.


49 posted on 05/30/2008 9:02:01 AM PDT by Valpal1 (OW! My head just exploded!)
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To: weegee

Mark Twain had a way of waiting until everyone was in bed and then farting under the covers. (So to speak...)


50 posted on 05/30/2008 9:02:52 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: MissouriConservative

Hooray! I would also like to nominate the letter C for extinction from the alphabet. It serves no great purpose and wouldn’t be missed by anyone under the age of 30.


51 posted on 05/30/2008 9:06:41 AM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: MissouriConservative

Speling reform is short-sited. We wud loos haf duh meenings we hav left.


52 posted on 05/30/2008 9:07:12 AM PDT by RightWhale (We see the polygons)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

That’s hilarious!


53 posted on 05/30/2008 9:23:45 AM PDT by tlj18 (Governor Sarah Palin for Vice President!)
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To: bvw

I respectfully disagree on the basis of the lifelong benefits of regimen; for instance, my dad taught me to spell so that I could write and in the process of spelling and writing, I learned to read; from there I went on to devise a way to keep these new tools organized so that they were always at hand and, in so doing I developed the ability to place an imaginary blackboard on the inner wall of my mind upon which I could draw, write, dissect and assemble any number of images as clearly as though chalk were in hand.

I went on to place all the choice pieces of my arsenal in boxes kept alongside this board in smaller boxes inside the larger boxes until I have now filled so many corners of my mind that stray fragments have begun to spill all about the floor.

Sometimes the more elusive and light-slippery of these take flight and flit from far to for naught, but time and patience and forebearance rewards as the errant arrive all tuckered but told - at last.


54 posted on 05/30/2008 9:24:17 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Twain had the greatest ability to write as though his hand was connected directly to his ear.


55 posted on 05/30/2008 9:27:17 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Valpal1
Miseducation at its best.
56 posted on 05/30/2008 9:29:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mater et Magistra.)
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To: SoldierDad

Cite me one case where the use of site words is institutionalized in plain sight.


57 posted on 05/30/2008 9:29:53 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: MissouriConservative

In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.


58 posted on 05/30/2008 9:30:59 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: MissouriConservative
GO AWAY! LEAVE US ALONE!!!


59 posted on 05/30/2008 9:37:58 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Old Professer

Mixingly of adverb and adjective with verb become noun, I hold no object to a regimen of consistently regularized spelling. Object, do I, to those spellings which are zealous defying reasonable attempts to write them soundingly.


60 posted on 05/30/2008 9:42:55 AM PDT by bvw
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