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Niny Pity Party (Mark Steyn Whack's Left's Appeasement Mindset Alert)
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzY5NWNlN2YzMmQxMDFmZGIwYTY2MTViNTUyZDg2OTA= ^ | 5/17/2008 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/17/2008 5:36:28 AM PDT by goldstategop

‘That’s enough. That — that’s a show of disrespect to me.”

That was Barack Obama, a couple of weeks back, explaining why he was casting the Reverend Jeremiah Wright into outer darkness. It’s one thing to wallow in “adolescent grandiosity” (as Scott Johnson of “Powerline” called it) when it’s a family dispute between you and your pastor of 20 years. It’s quite another to do so when it’s the 60th-anniversary celebrations of one of America’s closest allies.

Last week, President Bush was in Israel and gave a speech to the Knesset. Its perspective was summed up by his closing anecdote — a departing British officer in May 1948 handing the iron bar to the Zion Gate to a trembling rabbi and telling him it was the first time in 18 centuries that a key to one of the gates to the Old City of Jerusalem was in the hands of a Jew. In other words, it was a big-picture speech, referencing the Holocaust, the pogroms, Masada — and the challenges that lie ahead. Senator Obama was not mentioned in the text. No Democrat was mentioned, save for President Truman, in the context of his recognition of the new State of Israel when it was a mere 11 minutes old.

Nonetheless, Barack Obama decided that the President’s speech was really about him, and he didn’t care for it. He didn’t put it quite as bluntly as he did with the Reverend Wright, but the message was the same: “That’s enough. That’s a show of disrespect to me.” And, taking their cue from the soon-to-be nominee’s weirdly petty narcissism, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Joe Biden, and co. piled on to deplore Bush’s outrageous, unacceptable, unpresidential, outrageously unacceptable, and unacceptably unpresidential behavior.

Honestly. What a bunch of self-absorbed ninnies. Here’s what the president said: “Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: ‘Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.’ We have an obligation to call this what it is — the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.”

It says something for Democrat touchiness that the minute a guy makes a generalized observation about folks who appease terrorists and dictators the Dems assume: Hey, they’re talking about me. Actually, he wasn’t — or, to be more precise, he wasn’t talking only about you. Yes, there are plenty of Democrats who are in favor of negotiating with our enemies, and a few Republicans, too — President Bush’s pal James Baker, whose Iraq Study Group was full of proposals to barter with Iran and Syria and everybody else. But that general line is also taken by at least three of Tony Blair’s former cabinet ministers and his senior policy adviser, and by the leader of Canada’s New Democratic party, and by a whole bunch of bigshot Europeans. It’s not a Democrat-election policy, it’s an entire worldview. Even Barack Obama can’t be so vain as to think his fly-me-to-[insert name of enemy here] concept is an original idea.

Increasingly, the Western world has attitudes rather than policies. It’s one thing to talk as a means to an end. But these days, for most midlevel powers, talks are the end, talks without end. Because that’s what civilized nations like doing — chit-chatting, shooting the breeze, having tea and crumpets, talking talking talking. Uncivilized nations like torturing dissidents, killing civilians, bombing villages, doing doing doing. It’s easier to get the doers to pass themselves off as talkers then to get the talkers to rouse themselves to do anything. And, as the Iranians understand, talks provide a splendid cover for getting on with anything you want to do. If, say, you want to get on with your nuclear program relatively undisturbed, the easiest way to do it is to enter years of endless talks with the Europeans over said nuclear program. That’s why that Hamas honcho endorsed Obama: They know he’s their best shot at getting a European foreign minister installed as president of the United States.

Mo Mowlam was Britain’s Northern Ireland secretary and oversaw the process by which the IRA’s Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness became Ministers of a Crown they decline to recognize. By 2004, she was calling for Osama bin Laden to be invited to “the negotiating table,” having concluded he was no different from Adams: Stern fellow, lots of blood on his hands, but no sense getting on your high horse about all that; let’s find out what he wants and give him part of it. In his 2002 letter to the United States, bin Laden has a lot of grievances, from America’s refusal to implement sharia to Jew-controlled usury to the lack of punishment for “President Clinton’s immoral acts.” Like Barack Obama’s pastor, bin Laden shares the view that AIDS is a “Satanic American invention.” Obviously, there are items on the agenda that the free world can never concede on — “President Clinton’s immoral acts” — but who’s to say most of the rest isn’t worth chewing over?

This will be the fault line in the post-Bush war debate over the next few years. Are the political ambitions of the broader jihad totalitarian, genocidal, millenarian — in a word, nuts? Or are they negotiable? President Bush knows where he stands. Just before the words that Barack Obama took umbrage at, he said: “There are good and decent people who cannot fathom the darkness in these men and try to explain away their words. It’s natural, but it is deadly wrong. As witnesses to evil in the past, we carry a solemnly responsibility to take these words seriously.”

Here are some words of Hussein Massawi, the former leader of Hezbollah: “We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you.”

Are his actions consistent with those words? Amazingly so. So too are those of Hezbollah’s patrons in Tehran.

President Reagan talked with the Soviets while pushing ahead with the deployment of Cruise and Pershing missiles in Europe. He spoke softly — after getting himself a bigger stick. Sen. Obama is proposing to reward a man who pledges to wipe Israel off the map with a presidential photo-op to which he will bring not even a twig. No wonder he’s so twitchy about it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008election; appeasement; conservatism; democraticparty; freedom; iran; israel; jeremiahwright; leftism; marksteyn; narcissism; nationalreview; ninnies; obama; presbushknesset08; presidentbush; tyranny
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To the Left, appeasement cones as second nature. Which thw initmitable Mark Steyn memorializes in an unforgettable paragraph:

"Sen. Obama is proposing to reward a man who pledges to wipe Israel off the map with a presidential photo-op to which he will bring not even a twig. No wonder he’s so twitchy about it."

No wonder Obama and company are ninnies.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 05/17/2008 5:36:29 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Just saw a segment on the TODAY show while surfing. NBC “reporter” interviewed a black writer for the WaPo editorial page...guess what...?

Obama gets as “A” for his response to this “attack” from the Bush White House. Implication is...this was a disgraceful use of the President’s offices in a political campaign...

No one else was interviewed...no other point of view allowed...the casual TV watcher would believe that Obama was unfairly attacked and stood his ground in a way that was outstanding...

this is what passed for tv “news” today.


2 posted on 05/17/2008 5:43:56 AM PDT by kjo
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To: goldstategop

As I wrote in another column, Obama is the biggest WHINER, I have ever seen on the national stage. There must be some cartoon character that the GOP could hang around his neck to get this point across. Who can come up with one?

Maybe we could have someone create a photo with a blue ribbon on Obama’s chest reading “The BIGGEST Whiner!”


3 posted on 05/17/2008 5:45:12 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: goldstategop

Excellent, I love Steyn.


4 posted on 05/17/2008 5:45:16 AM PDT by bluerose (Press "1" if you speak English. "Press "2" to disconnect until you can.)
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To: goldstategop
Terrorist Imam Hassan Qazwini with Hezbollah Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah,
and the terrorist thereafter dealing with Baraq Hussein Obama

The result?:

"I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems, ....I will not weaponize space...
I will slow development of future combat systems...
I will institute a 'Defense Priorities Board' to ensure the quadrennial defense review is not used ...."


5 posted on 05/17/2008 5:45:26 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: goldstategop

Money quote:

“Here are some words of Hussein Massawi, the former leader of Hezbollah: “We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you.”


6 posted on 05/17/2008 5:45:36 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: kjo
True enough. If the Democrats ARE against appeasement, they shouldn't have been outraged at what Bush said. Talks with evil people only weaken the will of a free people to resist evil and strengthen those who are evil in their conviction the West will do nothing to stop them. In our generation, some have not learned the lessons of Munich.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 05/17/2008 5:47:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

...THE APPEASER SAID:

“[This] will not be a year of politics as usual. It can be a year of inspiration and hope, and it will be a year of concern, of quiet and sober reassessment of our nation’s character and purpose.
It has already been a year when voters have confounded the experts.
“There is a new mood in America. We have been shaken by a tragic war abroad and by scandals and broken promises a home. Our people are searching for new voices and new ideas and new leaders.

“We have been without leadership too long. We have had divided and deadlocked government too long.
“It is time for America to move and to speak not with boasting and belligerence but with a quiet strength, to depend in world affairs not merely on the size of an arsenal but on the nobility of ideas.

“It is time for us to take a new look at our own government, to strip away the secrecy, to expose the unwarranted pressure of lobbyists.
“It is time for a nationwide comprehensive health program for all our people.

“We can have an American government that does not oppress or spy on its own people but respects our dignity and our privacy and our right to be let alone.”


Excerpts from “Our Nation’s Past and Future:” Acceptance speech delivered by the Democratic Party nominee, Gov. Jimmy Carter, July 15, 1976......

THE REST IS HISTORY


8 posted on 05/17/2008 5:48:29 AM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!))
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To: goldstategop

b. Hussein Obama sounds like he has got a guilty conscience. I think it is good to hear the Islamo Marxist whine.


9 posted on 05/17/2008 5:50:11 AM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: Eurale
Of course they are. There's that cartoon of a liberal walking with a jihadist talking of finding common ground only to discover his head lopped off. The other side knows what it wants and some in the West are under the delusion all they want is to be left alone. Not quite.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 05/17/2008 5:50:34 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: UltraKonservativen
Barack Obama is simply a black Jimmy Carter. I think the American people need to get a good dose of what this man will do to America. Apparently, one Carter term wasn't enough of a lesson for the country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 05/17/2008 5:52:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Diogenesis
As regards those bottom three pictures of yours, there is a saying that the past is not dead. It is not even the past.

That certainly applies to the future horrors we'll experience (like the ones in your post) if b. Hussein Obama becomes president.

12 posted on 05/17/2008 5:53:21 AM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: Diogenesis

THIS VIDEO SHOULD BE REQUIRED VIEWING FOR AMERICANS

http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/


13 posted on 05/17/2008 5:53:23 AM PDT by cyberella
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To: Stepan12
No Obama is self-absorbed. As the Messiah, he's above it all. Which is bunk.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 05/17/2008 5:53:43 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
No Obama is self-absorbed. As the Messiah, he's above it all. Which is bunk.

His remarks sound like the squeal of the stuck. If he thought he was above it all, he would've been above responding to Pres. Bush's criticism of Jimmy Carter. Instead he acted like Pres. Bush was talking about him personally.

15 posted on 05/17/2008 5:56:46 AM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: kjo

The media is really brazen on this one. I’ve lost count how many times a reporter or commentator said the President attacked Obama.


16 posted on 05/17/2008 6:00:27 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Stepan12
President Bush didn't mention any Democrat in his address. But it still stuck a nerve. If these people aren't doing what the President describes, they're shrug it off. But they don't and that's very revealing about their inner psychological landscape. They do believe America is fundamentally wrong and while they wouldn't use Jeremiah Wright's language to describe it, they can't bring themselves to believe America is actually a good country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

17 posted on 05/17/2008 6:00:30 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
President Bush didn't mention any Democrat in his address. But it still stuck a nerve. If these people aren't doing what the President describes, they're shrug it off. But they don't and that's very revealing about their inner psychological landscape. They do believe America is fundamentally wrong and while they wouldn't use Jeremiah Wright's language to describe it, they can't bring themselves to believe America is actually a good country.

Struck a nerve -- YES!

18 posted on 05/17/2008 6:09:32 AM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: goldstategop
Obviously, there are items on the agenda that the free world can never concede on — “President Clinton’s immoral acts” — but who’s to say most of the rest isn’t worth chewing over?

Nails it. No pun intended.

19 posted on 05/17/2008 6:18:40 AM PDT by capydick ("History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid".)
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To: goldstategop

“Sweetie” happened immediately prior to “Appeaser.”

In order to prevent “sweetie” from getting legs, the Obama camp wagged the dog by jumping on anything at all that Pres. Bush said...in this case “appeaser statements.”

They were also able to use it to connect Bush to McCain.

This reveals a strategy they intend to use. Anything Pres. Bush says will be linked to McCain to make them appear the same.

They will have full complicity of the media, to include Fox.


20 posted on 05/17/2008 6:22:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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