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In France, Prisons Filled With Muslims
Washington Post ^ | April 29, 2008 | Molly Moore

Posted on 04/29/2008 2:29:19 AM PDT by freerepublic_or_die

Samia El Alaoui Talibi walks her beat in a cream-colored head scarf and an ink-black robe with sunset-orange piping, an outfit she picked up at a yard sale.

After passing a bulletproof window, El Alaoui Talibi trudges through half a dozen heavy, locked doors to reach the Muslim faithful to whom she ministers in the women's cellblock of the Lille-Sequedin Detention Center in far northern France.

It took her years to earn this access, said El Alaoui Talibi, one of only four Muslim holy women allowed to work in French prisons. "Everyone has the same prejudices and negative image of Muslims and Islam," said Moroccan-born El Alaoui Talibi, 47, the mother of seven children. "When some guards see you, they see an Arab; they see you the same as if you were a prisoner."

This prison is majority Muslim -- as is virtually every house of incarceration in France. About 60 to 70 percent of all inmates in the country's prison system are Muslim, according to Muslim leaders, sociologists and researchers, though Muslims make up only about 12 percent of the country's population.

On a continent where immigrants and the children of immigrants are disproportionately represented in almost every prison system, the French figures are the most marked, according to researchers, criminologists and Muslim leaders.

"The high percentage of Muslims in prisons is a direct consequence of the failure of the integration of minorities in France," said Moussa Khedimellah, a sociologist who has spent several years conducting research on Muslims in the French penal system. In Britain, 11 percent of prisoners are Muslim in contrast to about 3 percent of all inhabitants, according to the Justice Ministry. Research by the Open Society Institute, an advocacy organization,

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: careercriminals; eu; france; frenchmuslims; islam; muslim; muslims; prisons
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In Britain, 11 percent of prisoners are Muslim in contrast to about 3 percent of all inhabitants, according to the Justice Ministry. Research by the Open Society Institute, an advocacy organization, shows that in the Netherlands 20 percent of adult prisoners and 26 percent of all juvenile offenders are Muslim; the country is about 5.5 percent Muslim. In Belgium, Muslims from Morocco and Turkey make up at least 16 percent of the prison population, compared with 2 percent of the general populace, the research found.

The tremendous disparity between the percentage of the Muslim population at large and that of the Muslim population imprisoned per each European country cited is absolute proof of the West's institutionalized discrimination, inherent hatred of Islam. [/ sarcasm off]

And now, let's hear it from the parade of left wing, quack sociologists offering their tortured, convoluted pet theories as to why this decidedly Muslim phenomenon is as widespread as it is.

1 posted on 04/29/2008 2:29:20 AM PDT by freerepublic_or_die
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To: freerepublic_or_die

Our prisons are filled with muslims too.
The Nation of Islam converts them while they serve time.


2 posted on 04/29/2008 2:34:32 AM PDT by counterpunch (John McCain for President - Because we need VICTORY in Iraq, not RETREAT)
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To: freerepublic_or_die

It is were the followers of Satan spend time.


3 posted on 04/29/2008 2:46:17 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: freerepublic_or_die
"The high percentage of Muslims in prisons is a direct consequence of the failure of the integration of minorities in France," said Moussa Khedimellah, a sociologist who has spent several years conducting research on Muslims in the French penal system.
Moussa Khedimellah spend "several years conducting research" and that's the best analysis she can come up with? She needs a new line of work.
4 posted on 04/29/2008 2:51:42 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: freerepublic_or_die
"The most important thing is to say there is no correlation between Islam and delinquency."
That is to say, there is no correlation between a religion that encourages honor killings, enslavement of women, the slicing off of female genetalia, the teaching of young children to become suicide bombers... no correlation between any of that and delinquency. No correlation with a religion that is at war with its neighbors in every region on earth, on every border where it has non-Islam neigbors... no correlation between that and delinquency.

No correlation between a religion that preaches death and murder... no correlation between that and delinquency.

How much do these "sociologists" get payed to spew this mindless muck?

5 posted on 04/29/2008 2:55:49 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: freerepublic_or_die

> This prison is majority Muslim — as is virtually every house of incarceration in France. About 60 to 70 percent of all inmates in the country’s prison system are Muslim, according to Muslim leaders, sociologists and researchers, though Muslims make up only about 12 percent of the country’s population.

It is time for France to rediscover Madame Martyr Maker. She will be a tad rusty now, but with a bit of sharpening and a few days of steady use, France should be able to even up the prison stats to a more acceptable level.


6 posted on 04/29/2008 3:08:49 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: freerepublic_or_die

Just like here. They refuse to admit that the people in prison commit crimes at a greater rate than their percentage of the population.


7 posted on 04/29/2008 3:12:37 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: freerepublic_or_die

Part of this problem could have been avoided if the Europeans embraced birth control and abortion and stopped having children. Many, if not all, the European countries are below replacement level. The Muslims are having large families, and they are moving in to filling the decreasing European population.


8 posted on 04/29/2008 3:44:36 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

“Part of this problem could have been avoided if the Europeans embraced birth control and abortion and stopped having children.”

Could you have meant “Part of this problem could have been avoided if the Europeans eschewed birth control and abortion and started having more children.” ???

The second statement is true. The muslims are breeding like field rats and why not ... here in the USA welfare picks up a significant part of the tab.


9 posted on 04/29/2008 4:06:08 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
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To: freerepublic_or_die
After passing a bulletproof window, El Alaoui Talibi trudges through half a dozen heavy, locked doors to reach the Muslim faithful to whom she ministers in the women's cellblock of the Lille-Sequedin Detention Center in far northern France.

Does anyone else find it ironic that muslim criminals - apparently muslim before, during, and after their crimes - are called "the Muslim faithful"?

10 posted on 04/29/2008 4:10:55 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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About 60 to 70 percent of all inmates in the country's prison system are Muslim, according to Muslim leaders, sociologists and researchers, though Muslims make up only about 12 percent of the country's population.

The reason for this is very simple. Unlike other populations groups that immigrate, the Muslims are not interested in integrating in the society that they move into. Their goal is to change that society to fit their 7th century way of life. Thus a clash that results in high incarceration, civil strife and eventually war.

11 posted on 04/29/2008 4:13:18 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Patriot Guard Riders - Standing for those that stood for us.)
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To: counterpunch

Not to mention illegals.


12 posted on 04/29/2008 4:38:05 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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From the article:"The most important thing is to say there is no correlation between Islam and delinquency."

Of course not.....

13 posted on 04/29/2008 4:52:14 AM PDT by Mopp4
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To: freerepublic_or_die

“The most important thing is to say there is no correlation between Islam and delinquency.”

This is one of “N” (where N is a very large number) illustrations of why lefties flunk stats (we won’t even go into calculus or tensors). There is indeed a very large correlation... which is why “they” say there isn’t. Of course, they then indicate that they are well aware of the correlation by stating that the unusually large prison representation indicates “racism”. Sound familiar?


14 posted on 04/29/2008 5:05:53 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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>> “Research by the Open Society Institute, an advocacy organization,”

“Open Society Institute”= George Soros!
Obama = Soros:

>>”Not only did George Soros donate to Obama’s campaign, but four other family members - Jennifer, sons Jonathan and Robert and wife Susan - did as well.

Because of a special provision campaign finance laws, the Soroses were able to give a collective $60,000 to Obama during his primary challenge.”

CNSNews.com Staff Writer
July 27, 2004
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=%5CNation%5Carchive%5C200407%5CNAT20040727a.html

DG


15 posted on 04/29/2008 5:22:48 AM PDT by DoorGunner ( ...and so, all Israel will be saved.)
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To: freerepublic_or_die
If ever there was a Major Barf Alert warning, this one rises to the top.

There is so much bleeding heart, leftist, Moozie-appeasing, diatribe in this article, its difficult to know what to address.

WHAT TO HELL TO THEY THINK THE MAJORITY OF [LEGAL] "EUROPEAN" (READ: "INFIDEL") IMIGRANTS CAME TO THIS COUNTRY WITH?

"BAGS OF RICHES AND UNLIMITED AMOUNTS OF NECESSITIES?

MOST CAME WITH THE CLOTHES ON THEIR BACKS AND HAD LITTLE OR NO ASSISTANCE FROM ANYONE, YET MANAGED TO "ASSIMILATE" AND WORKED VERY HARD TO PROVIDE A BETTER LIFE FOR THEIR CHILDREN, WHICH BY THE 1ST AND 2ND GENERATIONS, HAD OVERCOME MOST OBSTACLES AND BECOME PRODUCTIVE AND USEFUL CITIZENS

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND MOOZIES IS THAT THEY ARE "UNWILLING" TO ASSIMILATE AND ADOPT THE MORES AND VALUES OF THEIR NEW "HOMES."

AS LIBERAL AS FRANCE IS, (THOUGH COMPLETELY OMITTED FROM THIS ARTICLE IS THE OFFENSES COMMITTED) I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THESE MOOLIMBS ARE INCARCERATED SIMPLY FOR LITTERING OR SPITTING ON THE SIDEWALK

WON'T BE LONG THAT WE WILL BE SEEING THE SAME THING HERE, IMHO.

16 posted on 04/29/2008 5:39:50 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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"The high percentage of Muslims in prisons is a direct consequence of the failure of the integration of minorities Muslims committing crimes in France,"...

Fixed it.

17 posted on 04/29/2008 6:00:26 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: freerepublic_or_die

“Take the key and lock them up.”


18 posted on 04/29/2008 6:04:33 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: samtheman

If you were to visit a foreign country without knowledge of their legal system, how many laws would you break? That is the innocent side of it. The guilty side would be, LORD OF THE FLIES mentality for those who immigrate to a democratic/republic/socialist foreign country and are now FREE to do as they want, because they have no fear of having their right hand chopped off, or their father killing them for talking to a stranger in public. Or, their native land gave them free transport to Europe to get rid of their sorry ... because they already have a record (if they keep records) in their homeland. Like the Latinos we have here, taking advantage of a once civilized culture. Peace is brought about by strict disciplinary laws. But the people have to understand the laws, and the consequences must be enforced consistently and fairly.


19 posted on 04/29/2008 6:19:55 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

You’re absolutely right.

We’re seeing it now in Dearborn Mi where mosques now broadcast the call to prayer over a loudspeaker.

We’re seeing it now in prisons where Muslims are demanding halal meals.

And eventually we’ll see it in our court system when a Muslim (charged with a crime) appears in front a judge and says “I don’t accept the American style of justice. I only recognize sharia law. I expect to be judged under sharia law”.

The ACLU will jump all over a case like this and they’ll find some liberal judge who’ll say “Gosh, the defendant is right. How Euro-centric of us to judge this man by western standards of law! We’re obviously insensitive to his religious beliefs”.

And thus (if appeals fail) we will end up with a two-tier system of justice, one for Muslims and one for the rest of us.


20 posted on 04/29/2008 7:26:00 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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