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Germanic Invaders May Not Have Ruled By Apartheid
New Scientist ^ | 4-23-2008 | Emma Young

Posted on 04/23/2008 2:49:29 PM PDT by blam

Germanic invaders may not have ruled by apartheid

00:01 23 April 2008
NewScientist.com news service
Emma Young

When a strong Germanic signal was discovered in the Y-chromosome of British men, geneticists at University College London suggested that enslavement and apartheid imposed by Saxon invaders was responsible.

It was an idea that, given 20th-century European history, had a particular resonance.

The argument is, that from AD 430 to 730, the Germanic conquerors of Britain formed an elite, with a servant underclass of native Britons. Inter-marriage was restricted, and the invaders and their genes flourished.

"But it is just not necessary to assume an apartheid-like system," argues John Pattison of the University of South Australia in Adelaide. "The evidence is compatible with the idea of a much more integrated society."

Lengthy influx

Pattison reviewed existing archaeological and genetic evidence, and conducted a new analysis of British DNA. Then, starting in 2001 and working backwards to pre-Roman times, Pattison calculated for each generation the net population growth and the origins of immigrants.

He concludes that people with Germanic origins came to Britain well before and after the early Anglo-Saxon period, and this long period of immigration can explain a relatively strong Germanic genetic signal today.

He adds that about 60% of the current British population still has some native Briton DNA, arguing against the idea, put forward by Mark Thomas at University College London and colleagues that Saxon invaders ethnically purged the country.

The textual and archaeological evidence collected by Thomas's team is also controversial, says Pattison.

Brutal times

While the Anglo-Saxon King Ine of Wessex did formulate a code that imposed heavier taxes on native Britons than Saxons, for example,

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apartheid; britons; germanic; godsgravesglyphs; invaders

1 posted on 04/23/2008 2:49:29 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.
2 posted on 04/23/2008 2:51:08 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
Darn illegals.
3 posted on 04/23/2008 2:52:29 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: blam
Medieval Irish warlord boasts three million descendants
4 posted on 04/23/2008 2:56:16 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
'Apartheid' slashed Celtic genes in early England
5 posted on 04/23/2008 2:58:48 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

So, in fact, Ich bin ein Berliner.


6 posted on 04/23/2008 3:00:23 PM PDT by muleskinner
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So, in fact, you are NOT a jelly filled donut ;) It’s, Ich bin Berliner, I am a Berliner. Which is the correct way to say it. (Poor JFK, someone on his staff should have caught this booboo)


7 posted on 04/23/2008 3:40:15 PM PDT by coincheck (Pray for my oldest son, he is in Iraq. Keeping us free.)
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To: coincheck

I think Marilyn Monroe caught his booboo, and maybe on film.


8 posted on 04/23/2008 4:08:49 PM PDT by OeOeO (Sic Transit Gloria Mundi... Gloria get me a beer,and hurry..)
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To: blam

isn’t that what the house of windsor is,

an incestuous tribe of german invaders?


9 posted on 04/23/2008 4:18:12 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21

The house of Windsor is descendent of the house of Hanover, which has been in England for longer than the US has been a country. So they are as much “invaders” of Britain as 95%+ of modern day Americans are of the USA.


10 posted on 04/23/2008 4:38:11 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: coincheck
LOL! The jelly donut line was one of the funniest boners in presidential history.

"Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall!" was better - and more effective!

11 posted on 04/23/2008 4:40:46 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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it was a joke.


12 posted on 04/23/2008 6:52:57 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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13 posted on 04/23/2008 10:42:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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"Ich bin Berliner"

I've always thought that it was a fortunate thing he did not make that speech in Hamburg or Frankfurt...
14 posted on 04/24/2008 6:19:30 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Act Swiftly Awesome Pachyderm!)
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sorry


15 posted on 04/24/2008 9:08:42 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: blam

My Grandfathers (Mothers side) family were supposedly descended from the seventh son, the horseman, McGaughey, but I think that they exaggerate.


16 posted on 04/24/2008 12:20:40 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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