Fluoride Damages Teeth

4/14/08 | nyscof

[maine-iac7]

Fluoride is naturally occurring...

Hmmm - there is a world of difference between naturally occurring fluoride and man-made, which is the toxic by-product of the aluminum industry.

Let your fingers do the walking. GOOGLE is at the end of your fingers.

[FreedomCalls]

Fluoride is naturally occurring

So are asbestos, hemlock, uranium, and poison ivy. Natural doesn't mean safe.

[varyouga]

if it has fluoride - it ain't "all-natural" -

It's all natural meaning no preservatives, fragrances, colors, etc. Those are found in regular paste but not this one.

You can get the same paste with or without flouride. They just add flouride for ADA approval. It's probably the closest you can get to natural and get ADA approved.

[netmilsmom]

>>Now the ADA, Centers for Disease Control and the Academy of General Dentistry advises that fluoridated water NOT be mixed with infant formula<<

It’s a big huge scare.

My kids got it, my sister’s kids (now in their thirties) got it, those kid’s children and I see nothing wrong with it.

Maybe with the right tin-foil hat, but like Iodine in salt, it works for me.

Wait until the people who do away with this see what happens to kids teeth. Yup, the ADA doesn’t want a single person to ever get a cavity, yup. And where does their money come from?

[nyscof]

First of all, dental fluorosis levels are NOT low. Up to 48% of US school children have it with 4% having severe fluorosis, according to the US Centers for Disease Control

Older children and adults risk SKELETAL fluorosis from too much fluoride. In fact, recently a 52-year-old American man’s arthritic-like joint pain and immobility went away after he stopped brushing his teeth with fluoridated toothpaste, according to a study in the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research

Dental fluorosis is like the canary in a cave. It’s the visible sign of fluoride toxicity.

[netmilsmom]

>>Once the teeth have erupted brushing with fluoride can not cause fluorosis -— unless the child swallows the toothpaste while other teeth are still forming. Absorption of fluoride through oral mucosal membranes must be extremely minimal mechanism given the great quantity of fluoride-containing toothpastes marketed and the extremely low incidence of dental fluorosis.

Artificially fluoridating municipal water supplies to 1 part per million is far below the concentration that will induce fluorosis. The decay prevention benefit accrues almost exclusively to the child population whose teeth are forming but is of negligible benefit to the adult. <<

Oh thank you for being the voice of reason here!!!!
It’s like the ADA recommending we all get rid of our old fillings. Who does that work? Not the local mechanic, a dentist. They make huge bucks with these scares. The scrupulous dentist (as are most of them) told us to just forget about it.

My dentist is a good man who gives sound advice. I’ll trust him over the rumor mill.

[nyscof]

You said artificially fluoridating water does not lead to fluorosis. This is not true. A review article by Mascarenhas published in 2000 in Pediatric Dentistry shows that fluorosis occurs from fluoridated water, alone.

[netmilsmom]

>>Older children and adults risk SKELETAL fluorosis from too much fluoride. In fact, recently a 52-year-old American man’s arthritic-like joint pain and immobility went away after he stopped brushing his teeth with fluoridated toothpaste, according to a study in the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research<<

That’s a straw man.
I have been on flurodated water since I was a child. My dad was a salesman and I would brush my teeth in the car, swallowing the toothpaste.

I’m 47 and have no bone problems. What was that guy doing, eating toothpaste for breakfast???

[snoringbear]

“So are asbestos, hemlock, uranium, and poison ivy. Natural doesn’t mean safe.”

You forgot to include stupidity...

[nyscof]

The ADA’s money comes from Procter & Gamble, Colgate, Johnson and Johnson and all those huge fluoride selling companies. They enable the ADA to be one of the most influential lobbying groups in the U.S. Organized dentistry uses our legal system to get laws passed that benefits themselves while taking welfare for the rich in the form of tuition and/or dental school subsidies.

Water fluoridation began over sixty years ago,then came fluoridated toothpaste, the ADA’s seal of approval, zillions of fluoridated products. Today tooth decay is a national crisis. Most dentists make three times as much as physicians while working fewer days and hours doing less critical work. Fluorosis rates are climbing which dentists will cover at a cost up to tens of thousands of dollars. And fluoridated toothpaste manufacturing has become a multi-billion international market.

Meanwhile, dentists are so rich tht 80% of them refuse Medicaid patients - who need their care the most. 108 million Americans don’t have dental insurance.

At the same time, organized dentistry blocks any other group from filling their void. They now have a monopoly on fixing teeth. But Dental Therapists can get trained in two years to do the same thing more cheaply and as effectively as dentists. They do in other developed countries.

However, organized dentistry with their corporate dollars gets legislators to do their bidding which includes lobbying against any group that threatens their lucrative monopoly.

[snoringbear]

“GOOGLE is at the end of your fingers.”

How about you take your finger and Google yourself...

[Wallace T.]

It never fails that when a discussion of fluoride in public water supplies is mentioned, reference is made to the movie, Dr. Strangelove, from 1964. This film coincided with the Johnson vs. Goldwater Presidential race, when the liberals tried to paint Goldwater and his fellow conservatives as lunatics and warmongers. Movies like Dr. Strangelove and Seven Days in May (also a 1964 release) were part of the liberal smear campaign, a successful one, given Johnson's huge victory margin that November. The same liberals immersed this nation in a prolonged, no-win war in Vietnam, a war many of them later disavowed and tried to pin on the successor GOP administration of Richard Nixon.

The citation of this 1960s era liberal propaganda film is evidence that FR is infested with people who have no connection with the conservatism of the recent past as represented by the likes of Russell Kirk or Milton Friedman. In fact, they are merely Kennedy-Johnson era liberals, who got off the Democrat bus due to their dissent on social issues like abortion or gay rights.

[netmilsmom]

Your post is filled with rot.

This looks like it was written by a conspiracy driven chairside assistant.

If you were ever a medical biller, you would know why Medicaid patients are turned away. They go on to Hospitals with Dental programs for the poor (Cleveland’s Metro General is one - I had teeth filled there when I was without money myself) People are billed on a sliding scale.

So what if 108 million Americans don’t have dental insurance? I didn’t for years and made payments. In fact most dentists and doctors for that matter, cut a break to those who DON’T have insurance. Saves them administrative costs.

Sorry you have a problem with the Dental industry. I don’t.

[nyscof]

Just because you had no problems doesn’t mean someone else can’t be so harmed by fluoride. It also doesn’t mean that everyone will be harmed by fluoride.

Skeletal fluorosis symptoms mimic arthritic symptoms and irritable bowel symtoms - two very prevalent US problems. But probably no US trained doctors even think to question fluoride use as a link

About this man with the fluoride pain in his nec, he
drank no fluoridated water, tea or wine; had no occupational fluoride exposure; did not chew tobacco, inhale snuff, cook with Teflon pots, use fluoridated mouthwash or get fluoride treatments at twice-yearly dentist visits. But he brushed before and after all meals
(minimum 6 times daily) with fluoridated toothpaste.

Additionally, “The combination of gastric
problems, difficulty in swallowing, leg muscle pain, and pain in the
knee and hip joints is a key indicator of fluoride toxicity, and
patients using high-concentration home fluoride treatments should be
monitored for these symptoms,” is reported in the January 2005
Journal of the American Dental Association.

[netmilsmom]

I think it’s put up as a joke.

[netmilsmom]

Yeah and Nutra-Sweet causes Lupus like symptoms.

I know cause my cousin’s uncle’s neighbor’s best friend stop drinking Diet Coke and her Lupus was cured in a day!

[coop71]

““Children from the age of 6-months to 3-years should not have more than one-quarter milligram of fluoride per day. Brushing the teeth of a 2-year-old twice a day will expose the child to about one-half milligram, exceeding the allowable [daily] limits” [from toothpaste alone], writes Dincer.”

Um, why would anyone brush their baby’s or toddler’s teeth with ANY fluoridated toothpaste? They make non-fluoride toothpaste and it clearly states on the package why small children should NOT use fluoride toothpaste. Duh.

[nyscof]

In Connecticut, fluoridation is state-mandated. This article describes "third-world" conditions in oral health because of lack of dental care: Dental Needs Unmet At least 1 million Connecticut residents, and possibly as many as 1.5 million — more than one-third of the state — lack dental insurance, according to the state dental association, and a new state medical plan for the uninsured, which includes tens of thousands of children, will not help. More than 1,000 of those uninsured people braved driving rain, lightning and long lines in the pre-dawn chill this past weekend to take advantage of Connecticut's Mission of Mercy, the state's first large-scale free dental clinic that opened for two days in Tolland. State Senate President Pro Tem Donald E. Williams Jr., a Brooklyn Democrat, walked among them. After two hours of listening to people's stories, Williams had heard and seen enough. "It's overwhelming," said a stunned Williams as he stood in the crowded clinic about 7 a.m. "If there is any doubt in people's minds about the need for greater access to health care, people should come here and see this." Those who got in to see one of the nearly 190 dentists volunteering their time at the old Tolland High School were lucky. The wait might be much longer for others. Of the approximately 3,000 licensed dentists in the state, only about 400 take HUSKY clients. Of those, only about 100 take HUSKY patients as a large part of their business, Dingeldey said. "What we saw this past weekend were folks who we think have access to our health care system but who don't have access to dental care," said Williams, the only politician who arrived early enough Saturday to see the long lines in the dark and rain. "These are folks who work hard for a living, but who are struggling to pay their bills at the end of the month," he said. When it comes to a choice between dental care and keeping the lights on or putting food on the table, advocates say, dental care is usually the first to go. http://www.ct.gov/dph/cwp/view.asp?a=3138&q=410264.

[nyscof]

You siad: “Um, why would anyone brush their baby’s or toddler’s teeth with ANY fluoridated toothpaste? They make non-fluoride toothpaste and it clearly states on the package why small children should NOT use fluoride toothpaste. Duh.”

Some people believe what their dentists tell them. The American Dental Association says two-years and younger shouldn’t use fluoridated toothpaste which makes one assume it’s safe for three year olds which it isn’t

Also the ADA tells parents who don’t live in fluoridated communities to give their children fluoride supplements to eat when they are six months old, which is counter-intuitive.

Then they advise putting fluoride varnish on babies teeth at soon as they emerge. Varnish contains a hugely toxic 26,000 parts per million fluoride (toothpaste has 1,000 ppm)

[netmilsmom]

>> When it comes to a choice between dental care and keeping the lights on or putting food on the table, advocates say, dental care is usually the first to go. http://www.ct.gov/dph/cwp/view.asp?a=3138&q=410264. <<

Phew!!!
Good thing they have flouride in the water to protect those budding teeth!!!!!