Fluoride Damages Teeth

4/14/08 | nyscof

[tongass kid]

Please tells us that through your independent research you can confirm what you say. Your arguments are old and time worn. I believe everyone should discuss this topic with their dentist or health care professional before believing this junk.

[netmilsmom]

I suggest, before anyone takes this poster seriously, that you check the “in forum” posts of this one.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:nyscof/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

One trick pony......

[knittnmom]

Anyone know if there is a blood test for skeletal fluorosis? http://www.fluoridation.com/skeletal.htm had some interesting info, but I couldn’t find info on a test.

[netmilsmom]

I suggest, before anyone takes this poster seriously, that you check the “in forum” posts of this one.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:nyscof/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

One trick pony......

[netmilsmom]

Sorry about the double post.....

[nyscof]

To arrive at a definitive fluorosis diagnosis, Susheela and Bhatnager:

(1) measure fluoride levels in drinking water, blood (serum), and urine.

Twenty-four hour urine is ideal. Samples are collected in plastic, not glass, containers because fluoride reacts with silica in glass resulting in unreliable data.

(2) take radiographs of the region or joint where the patient had complaints such as pain and stiffness

(3) take forearm X-rays to look for interosseous membrane
calcification.

The forearm X-ray is essential for diagnosis of fluorosis at early stages and to distinguish fluorosis from other orthopedic conditions.

“This is an important message as forearm X-ray is only requested for diagnosing fluorosis. In patients with fluorosis and osteomalacia,increases in bone mass and bone density may not appear, but ligaments would reveal calcification.” they write.

[Wallace T.]

I think it’s put up as a joke.

Just like the "AW geez, not this s___ again". However, the anti-flouridation supporters had a point about state coercion, then and now, that became muddled with baseless conspiracy theories, in the 1960s about the Communists and more recently about the Bildebergers or whatever. The valid point is that the state should not impose fluoride in the water system when some people may not desire it in their water. Water supply has generally been a state run monopoly; you can't just switch to another supplier as you might do from Coke to Pepsi, or from Wal Mart to Target. As a result, the state should not impel people to consume fluoride when the alternative is to force those who don't want it to buy bottled water or invest in filtration systems.

However, my point is still valid. On a large number of issues, such as police, judicial, or CPS overreach, homeschooling and school choice, support for NAFTA and similar agreements, and abolition of the income tax, you will find any number of FReepers who support the status quo even if past liberal legislation or court decisions are the reason for that status quo. Conservatism in the American sense was once grounded in individual freedom, limited, Constitutional government, and national sovereignty and independence. To too many posters, conservatism has become nothing more than a defense of the status quo and a cheerleader for big government when its power is used for their particular agenda.

[tongass kid]

Your teeth will not go bad if you do not use fl-, just need to eat a cave a man diet. Our modern western culture diet is very high in sweets. Eat sweets overtly and you get decay. Fl- is of great help to the young and the old . The young are at the mercy of who does the shopping and the old are extremely likely to get root surface decay. The roots are not cover with enamel and therefore less protected from decay. If you want less decay, become a label reader, you will surprised at what you are buying.

[nyscof]

In March 2006, the National Research Council part of the National Academies reviewed recent toxicological fluoride data and reveals that fluoride, even in low amounts, can be harmful to health.

[maine-iac7]

How about you take your finger and Google yourself...

Were you born rude or did you study for it?

[Petronski]

Psssst! Watch your step: Big Dentistry is watching you.

[Petronski]

How about you take your finger and Google yourself...

*snort*

[Petronski]

Something about this thread is decidedly anti-dentite.

Kramer: Pretty soon you'll be saying they should have their own schools.

Jerry: They do.

Kramer: Ahhh!

[knittnmom]

Thanks.

[Petronski]

Water supply has generally been a state run monopoly; you can't just switch to another supplier as you might do from Coke to Pepsi, or from Wal Mart to Target.

Drinking-water is not a monopoly. All four companies you mention sell it.

[tongass kid]

Yep, the state put nasty chlorine and pot ash in drinking water too. Causes a real bad taste. I demand that the state stop polluting our water with chlorine and pot ash, beacause they are not naturally occurring and are byproducts of manufracuring.

[Wallace T.]

There have always been bottled water suppliers. I lived in West Texas in the 1980s, where bottled water was in common use not because the water was unsafe but due to its mineral taste and smell. Because of the rapid growth of the East Coast cities in the mid 1800s and the inadequate ground water (wells and freshwater lakes), the city governments entered the water business to ensure adequate supplies for future growth. Classical economists would call this a natural monopoly, inasmuch as the capital needed to install a competing water system is extremely high. Since in this case, the state has a monopoly on the taxpayer water supply, it has a duty to respect all its citizens’ wishes. Fulfilling this duty means to ensure the supply is drinkable and not to add chemicals that some do not desire.

[Petronski]

It’s a monopoly on the supply of water through pipes. It is not a monopoly on the supply of water.

[Wallace T.]

I am neither a physician nor a scientist. Fluoride may well be beneficial in the prevention of tooth decay. As for potash, it is a source of potassium, an important nutrient. Any pharmacy or grocery store will sell potassium supplements. However, it is not the business of government to determine what is best for the health of its citizens. Government is supposed to be our servant, not our master. Thus, if a municipality or water district is to supply water to the public, it should be as clear of minerals or additives as possible.

[Wallace T.]

It’s a monopoly on the supply of water through pipes. It is not a monopoly on the supply of water.

True. Nonetheless, government should therefore restrict its role to providing as pure a water supply as is possible and not place any additives into that water that some may not want to have.