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Latest Helen Thomas rant: "War Without End" [High Barf Probability Alert]
The Boston Channel.com ^ | 9 Apr 08 | Ha CHA CHA CHA: Helen Thomas!!!

Posted on 04/10/2008 6:26:14 AM PDT by seanmerc

Surprise, surprise. Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, wants to put a halt to any more troop withdrawals for the foreseeable future.

The highly politicized Petraeus seemed to be dutifully following his White House marching orders when he testified before congressional committees earlier this week.

Under his scenario, there will be no drawdown of U.S. forces in that strife-ridden country until President Bush leaves office.

That’s fine with Bush, who obviously has no intention of ending this futile war on his watch. Apparently feeling no responsibility for starting the war, Bush is planning to pass the Iraqi debacle on to his successor.

You can forget accountability for the yet-to-be defined U.S. military mission that has taken more than 4,000 American lives, possibly a million Iraqi lives and destroyed a country.

Think of President Harry Truman and President Lyndon B. Johnson, who both understood that war was too important to be left to the generals in the field.

Truman fired the popular Gen. Douglas MacArthur because he disobeyed orders in the Korean War. Johnson knew that he had reached the endgame in Vietnam when Gen. William Westmoreland, the top commander in Vietnam, requested 240,000 more troops in 1968 for the prolonged war that also could not be won.

Those two presidents finally drummed up enough courage to just say “no.”

Petraeus is too smart to be pinned down on when the U.S. can pull out more troops, especially when there’s been a new flare-up of sectarian violence in Iraq. Let’s say he is careful and self-protective, trying to hold on.

When Petraeus testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich., told him: “What you have given to your chain of command is a plan which has no end to it.”

The general replied: “Withdrawing too many forces too quickly could jeopardize the progress of the past year.” Congress should wake up before it’s too late and listen to retired Army Lt. Gen. William Odom, former director of the National Security Agency.

NSA is the nation’s largest intelligence agency, which monitors messages from all over the world.

Odom testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee last week and urged an immediate withdrawal from Iraq. He claimed the troop surge (escalation) has prolonged instability in Iraq and that the only “sensible strategy” is “rapid withdrawal.”

In a separate speech last week, the outspoken general said, “We are certainly to blame for the chaos in Iraq” but “we do not have the physical means to prevent it.”

Odom said the military situation in Iraq is worsened by “the proliferation of armed groups under local military chiefs who follow a proliferating number of political bosses.”

“We are witnessing…the road to Balkanization of Iraq, that is political fragmentation,” Odom said

War makes strange bedfellows.

The Sunnis are now on our side -- if we continue to pay them enough, of course. They would be happy to see the U.S. attack Shiite-dominated Iran. Odom said those new-found friends threaten to defect unless their fees are increased.

“The concern we hear the president and his aides express about a residual base left for al-Qaida if we withdraw is utter nonsense, “ Odom said. “The Sunnis will destroy al-Qaida if we leave Iraq,” he added. “The Kurds will not allow them in their

Although the U.S. economic recession is expected to dominate the presidential election race, Iraq won’t be on the back burner if the Petraeus hearings are any guide.

The three presidential hopefuls -- Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz.; Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y. and Barack Obama, D-Ill. -- showed up at the high-profile hearings where Petraeus testified.

As expected, staunch-war supporter McCain said any promise to withdraw U.S. forces “would constitute a failure of political and moral leadership.”

In their disappointing comments, the Democratic rivals were as cautious as Petraeus.

Clinton said, “It’s time to begin an orderly withdrawal of our troops.”

Obama told Petraeus that while he wants U.S. troops out of Iraq, he “would not initiate a precipitous withdrawal.”

Ohio’s GOP Sen. George Voinovich seemed to express the frustration best when he told Petraeus: “The American people have had it up to here.”

Helen Thomas can be reached at hthomas@hearstdc.com.


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1 posted on 04/10/2008 6:26:16 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

There’s something inherently wrong with Helen Thomas talking about bedfellows.


2 posted on 04/10/2008 6:27:03 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

That is a really scary picture.


3 posted on 04/10/2008 6:29:32 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: seanmerc
Is this some type of punishment for past wrongs? I feel like every time I see that mug I'm being tortured “without end.” We ought to send her down to Gitmo as our very own secret weapon. After a few minutes staring at her these clowns will be begging for mercy.
4 posted on 04/10/2008 6:30:49 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: seanmerc
Let's see that great toast of Helen and Kim...and remember, she danced all night with him.

Are there any troops in South Korea....Wasn't that war in the '50's??

5 posted on 04/10/2008 6:31:04 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: seanmerc

Did Helen have some work done? She’s looking better in that second picture.


6 posted on 04/10/2008 6:31:04 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: seanmerc

Too bad Helen’s lungs are without end.


7 posted on 04/10/2008 6:32:26 AM PDT by angcat (Indian name "She who yells too much")
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To: seanmerc

“Think of President Harry Truman and President Lyndon B. Johnson, who both understood that war was too important to be left to the generals in the field.”

This is when we started “losing” wars. When the warfighting experts were handcuffed by elected officials under too much pressure from “lose at all costs” lefties.


8 posted on 04/10/2008 6:36:18 AM PDT by USMCGunnut (Be polite, be professional....but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: seanmerc
Surprise, surprise....

Helen Thomas is still a pro-terrorist anti-American old cow. Axis Sally sheds a tear that she had to go to prison for being the same sort of witch as Helen.

9 posted on 04/10/2008 6:36:33 AM PDT by weegee (March 18th, 2008 Obama~"I did NOT listen to the sermons of that man, Jeremiah Wright...")
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To: Sacajaweau
Perhaps you're thinking of our FORMER Secretary of State...
10 posted on 04/10/2008 6:37:34 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: USMCGunnut

Lefties opposed the war against Hitler too until Hitler betrayed their beloved Stalin.

Screw Commies. They are responsible for the deaths of over a hundred million in their own countries.


11 posted on 04/10/2008 6:37:42 AM PDT by weegee (March 18th, 2008 Obama~"I did NOT listen to the sermons of that man, Jeremiah Wright...")
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To: weegee


12 posted on 04/10/2008 6:40:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: seanmerc
"Think of President Harry Truman and President Lyndon B. Johnson, who both understood that war was too important to be left to the generals in the field."

This is as far as I could stand reading before my eyeballs started to bleed. This statement actually started a hemorrhage. Could someone please, please, please charge this traitorous little troll of an ass hat with sedition and have done with it!

13 posted on 04/10/2008 6:40:43 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: seanmerc

14 posted on 04/10/2008 6:41:25 AM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: seanmerc

Although I’m sure she was well into her 90’s at the time of the Korean War, she’s taken this opportunity to re-write history based on the assumption that most of America is illiterate, which it well may be.


15 posted on 04/10/2008 6:42:19 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: C210N; seanmerc

LOL!


16 posted on 04/10/2008 6:43:22 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: seanmerc

More rantings from the mouth without end.


17 posted on 04/10/2008 6:43:41 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: seanmerc

All wars eventually end. Stupidity, however, endures forever.


18 posted on 04/10/2008 6:43:50 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: C210N

(Spewing coffee) You know, that’s really quite an improvement.


19 posted on 04/10/2008 6:45:09 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: seanmerc

When is that old bat going to crawl in a hole and pull the sod over her head?


20 posted on 04/10/2008 6:47:10 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: C210N

That one never gets old. :)


21 posted on 04/10/2008 6:47:16 AM PDT by maggief
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To: seanmerc

I wonder why she left out FDR and all the troops that have been stationed in those countries where he won a war against....

Could it be she was his mistress?


22 posted on 04/10/2008 6:47:41 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: Piquaboy
When is that old bat going to crawl in a hole and pull the sod over her head?

Only if the sod loses it's appeal in the courts to prevent being contaminated with such toxic material.
23 posted on 04/10/2008 6:49:23 AM PDT by mkjessup (Presidential Buffet Choices: "Botulism, Salmonella, or E.Coli -- iow, we get sick no matter what.")
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To: seanmerc
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24 posted on 04/10/2008 6:58:34 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: C210N

GMTA


25 posted on 04/10/2008 6:59:37 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

I still think that’s an insult to the dog.


26 posted on 04/10/2008 7:03:39 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc
and President Lyndon B. Johnson, who both understood that war was too important to be left to the generals in the field.

Ah yes. Johnson and Robert Strange McNamara sitting in the oval office, (his middle name really was Strange) picking targets for the Navy and Air Force to hit in N. Vietnam - that worked really well.


27 posted on 04/10/2008 7:06:45 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: weegee

“Lefties opposed the war against Hitler too until Hitler betrayed their beloved Stalin.”

Agreed, FDR gets a lot of blame from some like me, but a free ride from the commies.


28 posted on 04/10/2008 7:17:23 AM PDT by USMCGunnut (Be polite, be professional....but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: seanmerc

Helen Thomas may be right. I would prefer to restate the sentiment: This is the front line of a war without end. What is the old saying? Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn on occasion.


29 posted on 04/10/2008 7:21:10 AM PDT by tennteacher (Hunter Conservative)
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To: andy58-in-nh

You know where she stands when she employs the term “futile war”. And, like most Marxists without a sense of the military in history she trots out the “Tin Man” Gen. Odom to butress her case. Odom, who never was a geostrategist or someone with an understanding of Middle East complexities, must be nearing senility: Inter alia, He makes the claim that if Iraq falls apart the Kurds will not allow “them” to occupy their homeland. However, if the USA were not in Iraq, and had not protected the Kurds for nearly two decades, there would be no such thing now as Kurdistan.

Thoomas’s Middle East analyses are a mess. She is a woman who has allowed her prejudices to fester for many years. Her Syrian heritage leads her to support a Greater Syria, and thus she projects little pity for the pesky Christian Lebanese, religious Sunni, or for the Kurdish minority that occupies that former Maronite stronghold.

She is generally mute on Hizbollah. She cares little for Israel, and blames it for most of the problems facing the Middle East today.

She despises Gulf Arabs and has little good to say about the Turks (who occupied Syria for centuries).

Closter to home, she hates Republicans; they, unlike Democrats, are aware of the history of the bloody-handed Assad family and the history of terrorism that surrounds Iran’s Pasdaran and Kuds Brigade and don’t seem to want to play ball with the Islamo-fascists. Still, Helen may yet break bread and climb on the McCain bandwagon if he will only shake hands with Assad and Ahmadinezhad, and refuse to meet with Netanyahu. We shall see. Actually, this time I’m betting on Helen.


31 posted on 04/10/2008 7:31:25 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

This fat hag had no problem when clinton

Invaded Haiti
Turned a humanitarian aid effort in Mogadishu into a war
helped create a kosovo islamic state, killing Christians and fabricating Serbian attrocities.

Her and the rest of these selective protestors can pound sand.


32 posted on 04/10/2008 7:39:06 AM PDT by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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To: seanmerc
The highly politicized Petraeus seemed to be dutifully following his White House marching orders when he testified before congressional committees earlier this week.

Starting a story with a lie is the liberal way.

33 posted on 04/10/2008 7:42:45 AM PDT by Edgerunner (At the heart of every absurdity, lies a liberal lie)
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To: seanmerc
I *had* a long retort going, but screw it.

Bottom line - Helen, you're full of shiite.
And your memory sucks too, though maybe not bad for someone who's 150 years old like you.

34 posted on 04/10/2008 7:54:10 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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35 posted on 04/10/2008 8:11:56 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: seanmerc

Pit1’s Rant: Life without end.


36 posted on 04/10/2008 8:29:38 AM PDT by Pit1
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You're quite right. Good ole Madeline. And now, how about the picture of Hillary kissing __________'s wife. Can't even remember the now dead man's name.

Some diplomacy policy them Dems have.

37 posted on 04/10/2008 8:41:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: seanmerc

Think Truman....


38 posted on 04/10/2008 8:42:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: seanmerc

noooooooooooooooooooo, first post and pictures


39 posted on 04/10/2008 8:46:20 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: seanmerc

Helen Thomas is a billowing bag of bovine fodder. (My apologies to the Wizard of Oz!)


40 posted on 04/10/2008 8:50:01 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: seanmerc

Helen Thomas can be reached at hthomas@hearstdc.com......

Reach out and touch a turd?....I think not!


41 posted on 04/10/2008 9:11:09 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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That’s fine with Bush, who obviously has no intention of ending this futile war on his watch. Apparently feeling no responsibility for starting the war, Bush is planning to pass the Iraqi debacle on to his successor.

That Helen. Always the highest integrity and respect for press impartiality.

42 posted on 04/10/2008 10:17:10 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - The Original Slave Owners)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Bush is planning to pass the Iraqi debacle on to his successor.

Helen, this is just another reason for democrats to vote McCain.


43 posted on 04/10/2008 3:06:22 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Reach out and touch a turd?....I think not!

I wrote to her and she actually wrote back, and also replied to my followup reply. Her bottom line was "bias is whatever you don't agree with".

44 posted on 04/14/2008 1:46:32 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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Gonna be interesting to see what she may have to say about the possible Gore’s War.


45 posted on 04/14/2008 2:01:27 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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