Skip to comments.Latest Helen Thomas rant: "War Without End" [High Barf Probability Alert]
Posted on 04/10/2008 6:26:14 AM PDT by seanmerc
Surprise, surprise. Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, wants to put a halt to any more troop withdrawals for the foreseeable future.
The highly politicized Petraeus seemed to be dutifully following his White House marching orders when he testified before congressional committees earlier this week.
Under his scenario, there will be no drawdown of U.S. forces in that strife-ridden country until President Bush leaves office.
Thats fine with Bush, who obviously has no intention of ending this futile war on his watch. Apparently feeling no responsibility for starting the war, Bush is planning to pass the Iraqi debacle on to his successor.
You can forget accountability for the yet-to-be defined U.S. military mission that has taken more than 4,000 American lives, possibly a million Iraqi lives and destroyed a country.
Think of President Harry Truman and President Lyndon B. Johnson, who both understood that war was too important to be left to the generals in the field.
Truman fired the popular Gen. Douglas MacArthur because he disobeyed orders in the Korean War. Johnson knew that he had reached the endgame in Vietnam when Gen. William Westmoreland, the top commander in Vietnam, requested 240,000 more troops in 1968 for the prolonged war that also could not be won.
Those two presidents finally drummed up enough courage to just say no.
Petraeus is too smart to be pinned down on when the U.S. can pull out more troops, especially when theres been a new flare-up of sectarian violence in Iraq. Lets say he is careful and self-protective, trying to hold on.
When Petraeus testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich., told him: What you have given to your chain of command is a plan which has no end to it.
The general replied: Withdrawing too many forces too quickly could jeopardize the progress of the past year. Congress should wake up before its too late and listen to retired Army Lt. Gen. William Odom, former director of the National Security Agency.
NSA is the nations largest intelligence agency, which monitors messages from all over the world.
Odom testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee last week and urged an immediate withdrawal from Iraq. He claimed the troop surge (escalation) has prolonged instability in Iraq and that the only sensible strategy is rapid withdrawal.
In a separate speech last week, the outspoken general said, We are certainly to blame for the chaos in Iraq but we do not have the physical means to prevent it.
Odom said the military situation in Iraq is worsened by the proliferation of armed groups under local military chiefs who follow a proliferating number of political bosses.
We are witnessing the road to Balkanization of Iraq, that is political fragmentation, Odom said
War makes strange bedfellows.
The Sunnis are now on our side -- if we continue to pay them enough, of course. They would be happy to see the U.S. attack Shiite-dominated Iran. Odom said those new-found friends threaten to defect unless their fees are increased.
The concern we hear the president and his aides express about a residual base left for al-Qaida if we withdraw is utter nonsense, Odom said. The Sunnis will destroy al-Qaida if we leave Iraq, he added. The Kurds will not allow them in their
Although the U.S. economic recession is expected to dominate the presidential election race, Iraq wont be on the back burner if the Petraeus hearings are any guide.
The three presidential hopefuls -- Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz.; Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y. and Barack Obama, D-Ill. -- showed up at the high-profile hearings where Petraeus testified.
As expected, staunch-war supporter McCain said any promise to withdraw U.S. forces would constitute a failure of political and moral leadership.
In their disappointing comments, the Democratic rivals were as cautious as Petraeus.
Clinton said, Its time to begin an orderly withdrawal of our troops.
Obama told Petraeus that while he wants U.S. troops out of Iraq, he would not initiate a precipitous withdrawal.
Ohios GOP Sen. George Voinovich seemed to express the frustration best when he told Petraeus: The American people have had it up to here.
Helen Thomas can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org.
There’s something inherently wrong with Helen Thomas talking about bedfellows.
That is a really scary picture.
Are there any troops in South Korea....Wasn't that war in the '50's??
Did Helen have some work done? She’s looking better in that second picture.
Too bad Helen’s lungs are without end.
“Think of President Harry Truman and President Lyndon B. Johnson, who both understood that war was too important to be left to the generals in the field.”
This is when we started “losing” wars. When the warfighting experts were handcuffed by elected officials under too much pressure from “lose at all costs” lefties.
Helen Thomas is still a pro-terrorist anti-American old cow. Axis Sally sheds a tear that she had to go to prison for being the same sort of witch as Helen.
Lefties opposed the war against Hitler too until Hitler betrayed their beloved Stalin.
Screw Commies. They are responsible for the deaths of over a hundred million in their own countries.
This is as far as I could stand reading before my eyeballs started to bleed. This statement actually started a hemorrhage. Could someone please, please, please charge this traitorous little troll of an ass hat with sedition and have done with it!
Although I’m sure she was well into her 90’s at the time of the Korean War, she’s taken this opportunity to re-write history based on the assumption that most of America is illiterate, which it well may be.
More rantings from the mouth without end.
All wars eventually end. Stupidity, however, endures forever.
(Spewing coffee) You know, that’s really quite an improvement.
When is that old bat going to crawl in a hole and pull the sod over her head?
That one never gets old. :)
I wonder why she left out FDR and all the troops that have been stationed in those countries where he won a war against....
Could it be she was his mistress?
I still think that’s an insult to the dog.
Ah yes. Johnson and Robert Strange McNamara sitting in the oval office, (his middle name really was Strange) picking targets for the Navy and Air Force to hit in N. Vietnam - that worked really well.
“Lefties opposed the war against Hitler too until Hitler betrayed their beloved Stalin.”
Agreed, FDR gets a lot of blame from some like me, but a free ride from the commies.
Helen Thomas may be right. I would prefer to restate the sentiment: This is the front line of a war without end. What is the old saying? Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn on occasion.
You know where she stands when she employs the term “futile war”. And, like most Marxists without a sense of the military in history she trots out the “Tin Man” Gen. Odom to butress her case. Odom, who never was a geostrategist or someone with an understanding of Middle East complexities, must be nearing senility: Inter alia, He makes the claim that if Iraq falls apart the Kurds will not allow “them” to occupy their homeland. However, if the USA were not in Iraq, and had not protected the Kurds for nearly two decades, there would be no such thing now as Kurdistan.
Thoomas’s Middle East analyses are a mess. She is a woman who has allowed her prejudices to fester for many years. Her Syrian heritage leads her to support a Greater Syria, and thus she projects little pity for the pesky Christian Lebanese, religious Sunni, or for the Kurdish minority that occupies that former Maronite stronghold.
She is generally mute on Hizbollah. She cares little for Israel, and blames it for most of the problems facing the Middle East today.
She despises Gulf Arabs and has little good to say about the Turks (who occupied Syria for centuries).
Closter to home, she hates Republicans; they, unlike Democrats, are aware of the history of the bloody-handed Assad family and the history of terrorism that surrounds Iran’s Pasdaran and Kuds Brigade and don’t seem to want to play ball with the Islamo-fascists. Still, Helen may yet break bread and climb on the McCain bandwagon if he will only shake hands with Assad and Ahmadinezhad, and refuse to meet with Netanyahu. We shall see. Actually, this time I’m betting on Helen.
This fat hag had no problem when clinton
Turned a humanitarian aid effort in Mogadishu into a war
helped create a kosovo islamic state, killing Christians and fabricating Serbian attrocities.
Her and the rest of these selective protestors can pound sand.
Starting a story with a lie is the liberal way.
Bottom line - Helen, you're full of shiite.
And your memory sucks too, though maybe not bad for someone who's 150 years old like you.
Pit1’s Rant: Life without end.
Some diplomacy policy them Dems have.
noooooooooooooooooooo, first post and pictures
Helen Thomas is a billowing bag of bovine fodder. (My apologies to the Wizard of Oz!)
Helen Thomas can be reached at email@example.com......
Reach out and touch a turd?....I think not!
That Helen. Always the highest integrity and respect for press impartiality.
Bush is planning to pass the Iraqi debacle on to his successor.
Helen, this is just another reason for democrats to vote McCain.
I wrote to her and she actually wrote back, and also replied to my followup reply. Her bottom line was "bias is whatever you don't agree with".
Gonna be interesting to see what she may have to say about the possible Gore’s War.
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