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Hounding low-income dads won't pay
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 3/26/08 | Glenn Sacks

Posted on 03/27/2008 3:39:44 PM PDT by PercivalWalks

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1 posted on 03/27/2008 3:39:45 PM PDT by PercivalWalks
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To: PercivalWalks

the revenge of the Bitch State.


2 posted on 03/27/2008 3:44:10 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Free New York)
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To: PercivalWalks

I work with a guy who got back together with his ex. He has CS taken out of his check every week. They want to stop it but she would have to take him back to court. It would cost them over a hundred dollars to have him served with papers so they could set up a court date to get the judge to stop the money from being taken out of his check.


3 posted on 03/27/2008 3:45:16 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: PercivalWalks
The problem is few working class fathers can repay that kind of debt. Punishing them for not making enough is not going to help their children.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 03/27/2008 3:45:45 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: raybbr

Society is going to wake up some day and realize how badly the non-custodial parents are treated in this nation. Here’s to hoping it doesn’t take too many more decades.


5 posted on 03/27/2008 3:47:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: PercivalWalks
Hey, Johnny, your fathers a "deadbeat" because he can't afford to pay his rent and give your mother 30% of his gross.
6 posted on 03/27/2008 3:48:48 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Free New York)
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To: goldstategop

Government is painfully insufficient at mandating personal responsibility if it doesn’t come from within.

For some reason this reminds me of the lyrics to Gold Digger

>>18 years, 18 years
She got one of yo’ kids, got you for 18 years
I know somebody payin’ child support for one of his kids
His baby momma’s car crib is bigger than his
You will see him on TV, any given Sunday
Win the Superbowl and drive off in a Hyundai
She was supposed to buy ya shorty Tyco with ya money
She went to the doctor got lipo with ya money
She walkin’ around lookin’ like Michael with ya money
Shoulda’ got that insured, GEICO for ya moneeey(your money)
If you ain’t no punk holla’ we want pre-nup
WE WANT PRE-NUP!, yeah
It’s something that you need to have
‘Cause when she leave yo’ ass she gon’ leave with half
18 years, 18 years
And on her 18th birthday, he found out it wasn’t his?<<

The refrain is

>>Now I ain’t sayin’ she a gold digger
But she ain’t messin’ wit no broke ******* <<


7 posted on 03/27/2008 3:51:48 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Hey, Johnny, your fathers a "deadbeat" because he can't afford to pay his rent and give your mother 30% of his gross.

So we'll confiscate more taxpayer funds to take care of you.

8 posted on 03/27/2008 3:58:02 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: PercivalWalks
My case has been closed for over 3 years and they STILL intercepted my federal taxes. Maryland somehow thinks I owe them another 4K.

One day, God willing it will all end.
9 posted on 03/27/2008 3:59:51 PM PDT by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: Dianna
It is understandable that taxpayers want money spent on welfare benefits to be repaid. Yet it makes little sense to hound low-income fathers, particularly since research shows that in some cases, were it not for child support, the men would still be playing a role in their children’s lives.

Here is the money quote.

10 posted on 03/27/2008 4:00:00 PM PDT by Dianna
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I think if they did a little research, they could do this on their own with a few fees to have the affadavit of service notarized. You do not have to pay for official service if the other party is willing to be served.


11 posted on 03/27/2008 4:05:07 PM PDT by Valpal1 (OW! My head just exploded!)
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To: PercivalWalks

Back in WA, we had a “Department of Support Enforcement”. Wonder why we never had a “Department of Visitation Enforcement.”


12 posted on 03/27/2008 4:32:29 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: Valpal1
I think if they did a little research, they could do this on their own with a few fees to have the affadavit of service notarized. You do not have to pay for official service if the other party is willing to be served.

He checked with the court and the lawyers involved. He has to be served and subpoenaed to court. It's the law in CT.

13 posted on 03/27/2008 4:48:09 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: PercivalWalks
'nother blog pimp from Glenn.

Obviously something is wrong with the system.

For the past 7 months, I've been fortunate (yes, that was sarcasm) to watch this particular ugly part of our court system. Once a month, I've gone in to observe what is referred to as "Contempt Fridays"

This month there were only 49 cases on the Friday I observed- the previous month there were 73.

Out of those people there was ONE woman who was behind on her child support. In all fairness she hadn't gone back for a modification while she had custody at one point. her fault, but still not a deadbeat.

More than 70% of those men had quit a job once Child Support had caught up to them and started garnishing. There were truly a couple of hard luck stories - but mostly, it was men who just simply didn't want to make a priority to pay for their child.

One that went to jail for 30 days, had been working under the table to support a new wife and child, but hadn't paid anything to his first daughter in over 2 years. TWO YEARS!

If you can afford groceries, and clothes, and gas for your car, you can afford to pay something/anything towards child support.

Other examples were the day laborers who were no longer working because construction is low - BUT he was getting unemployment and working for cash for his uncle. There was the man who owed 175,000 in past child support - the least amount was $7,000 in arrears.

There is no such thing as buyer's remorse when it comes to children, and there is NO reason to not support a child. If you can't afford it on your salary, get a second job, or a third one - no excuse for not taking care of your kid.

14 posted on 03/27/2008 4:58:40 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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they always get their cut.

I'm cranky. I think I need a break.

15 posted on 03/27/2008 5:04:25 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Free New York)
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To: raybbr

It was that way for my folks. When they divorced we first lived with my mom and my dad had child support taken out through Friend of the Court. I moved back in with my dad, then so did my brother but instead of going through all the hassle of changing things, when the check came to my mom she signed it back over to my dad. They (FOTC) make life far harder than it needs to be.


16 posted on 03/27/2008 5:09:56 PM PDT by ShadowDancer ( Losers always look for excuses. Winners never quit.)
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To: porter_knorr
The only option for deadbeats is incarceration. Unfortunately that only hurts the taxpayers and still does not feed the bull dog.
barbra ann
17 posted on 03/27/2008 5:12:40 PM PDT by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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I agree - but it sure takes a long time to get them there, and once they are the whole thing starts from scratch again.


18 posted on 03/27/2008 5:17:48 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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Yeah, the courts and lawyers tell you that, that’s their livelihood. It can be done, although the learning curve can be steep for someone who thinks it makes financial sense to continue have his income dinged by the state because it cost a hundred bucks to do the paper work.


19 posted on 03/27/2008 5:23:49 PM PDT by Valpal1 (OW! My head just exploded!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

>>Hey, Johnny, your fathers a “deadbeat” because he can’t afford to pay his rent and give your mother 30% of his gross.<<

Yes but... there is something about personal responsibility to the child


20 posted on 03/27/2008 5:30:11 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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