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1 posted on 03/07/2008 7:03:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The fact that Al Qaida suicide bombers have been killing the secularist daily, to me it suggests that the secularists are sincere.


2 posted on 03/07/2008 7:06:04 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Al Quaida and Islamics : Paybacks are gonna be hall.


3 posted on 03/07/2008 8:06:05 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Islam at the Ballot Box
By AMIR TAHERI
February 21, 2008; Page A17
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120356153631882007.html

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The Islamist defeat in Pakistani confirms a trend that’s been under way for years. Conventional wisdom had it that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the lack of progress in the Israel-Palestine conflict, would provide radical Islamists with a springboard from which to seize power through elections.

Analysts in the West used that prospect to argue against the Bush Doctrine of spreading democracy in the Middle East. These analysts argued that Muslims were not ready for democracy, and that elections would only translate into victory for hard-line Islamists.

The facts tell a different story. So far, no Islamist party has managed to win a majority of the popular vote in any of the Muslim countries where reasonably clean elections are held. If anything, the Islamist share of the vote has been declining across the board.

Take Jordan. In last November’s general election, the Islamic Action Front suffered a rout, as its share of the votes fell to 5% from almost 15% in elections four years ago. The radical fundamentalist group, linked with the Islamic Brotherhood movement, managed to keep only six of its 17 seats in the National Assembly. Its independent allies won no seats.

In Malaysia, the Islamists have never gone beyond 11% of the popular vote. In Indonesia, the various Islamist groups have never collected more than 17%. The Islamists’ share of the popular vote in Bangladesh declined from an all-time high of 11% in the 1980s to around 7% in the late 1990s.

In Gaza and the West Bank, Hamas — the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood — won the 2006 general election with 44% of the votes, far short of the “crushing wave of support” it had promised. Even then, it was clear that at least some of those who run on a Hamas ticket did not share its radical Islamist ideology. Despite years of misrule and corruption, Fatah, Hamas’s secularist rival, won 42% of the popular vote.

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4 posted on 03/08/2008 5:52:23 AM PST by Valin
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Pakistan ۋﮧ۱م

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5 posted on 03/08/2008 5:08:50 PM PST by G8 Diplomat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is kinda confusing...if the guy’s a secularist, why does the Taliban support him instead of his hardline opponent? And I highly doubt only 1% of the population supports the militants, given that 24% of them sympathize with OBL. Still, I can certainly believe that many of them are tired of living in fear and dealing with the threat of explosions every day. This guy seems committed to bringing an end to the violence, as do most secularists who are AQ targets, so we can only hope someone doesn’t nail him....


6 posted on 03/08/2008 5:15:02 PM PST by G8 Diplomat
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I watched the video in the link....again, like Iran and Iraq, it’s the young generation in Pakistan who is tired of the hardline, extremist terror carried out by members of the older one. Khan is a young MP, the Iranian youth are protesting every week it seems, and the Iraqi youth are losing faith in Islam. The future could be very interesting as these people take over jobs and government; we could see more secular societies and crackdowns on terrorists. Reigns of terror by al-Qaida or the Taliban or the Iranian hardliners can only last so long before people get tired of them.


7 posted on 03/08/2008 5:26:41 PM PST by G8 Diplomat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Saberwielder; Dog; nuconvert; SunkenCiv; Straight Vermonter; G8 Diplomat
In the NA-40 Tribal Area-V district all candidates were registered as Independent. The winner was Mohammad Kamran Khan from Wazir Mada Khel, his father is Zakim Khan (note: There is a person in Afghanistan with the same name)

In NA-40 the number of registered voters was 96,448, but Mohammed Kamran Khan was the winner with 6,000 he used Spectacles as a symbol, Aurangzeb Khan (Inkpot with pen) 5,194, Abdullah Shah (Gun) 4,006, Abdul Qayyum (Tower) 3,800, Mohammed Ajmal Khan (Cup & Saucer) 2,106, Ahmed Jan (Teapot) 52 and Dr. Shahid Rauf (Pomegranate) 8 votes. In total 21,166 i.e. 22 %.

This means that the symbols of learning got the majority of the votes Spectacles and Inkpot with pen. But I'm not so sure about the results; 6,000 and 3,800 and the fact that no one voted for the other candidates i.e. the Bridge, Foot ball, Tumbler, Tower, Bus, Crown, Takhti, Bowl, Fan, Jug, Loudspeaker, Torch, Mango or Brick!

http://www.geo.tv/election2008/result/na40.html and

http://www.jang.com.pk/election2008/images/Final_List_Contesting_Candidates/NWFP_NA.pdf

8 posted on 03/09/2008 12:28:20 AM PST by AdmSmith
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This can’t be good. We’d better elect Obama and invade Pakistan. Thanks Ernest.


14 posted on 03/09/2008 9:39:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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