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Ed Koch Still Pulls No Punches: New Book Includes Surprising Revelation About James Baker
Jewish Press ^ | February 27, 2008 | Rafael Medoff

Posted on 02/29/2008 5:37:29 AM PST by SJackson

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To: PurpleMan
Jessie Jackson was just greeting (Reagan AG) Ed Meese when he said, "Hi Meese".

(He was not, NOT referring to Jews as "hymies" or to New York as "Hymietown".)

21 posted on 02/29/2008 6:06:18 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Ann Archy
WHY did Jack Kemp go to Koch and tell him this?? What was in it for Kemp? Sounds kind of school boyish tattle tale.

I don't know Kemp's motivation. And I generally don't like tattle-tales. Perhaps it should have been handled better by Kemp. Certainly Baker should not have said what he said.

The key thing for me, though, is that Republicans need to police Republicans. We don't need anti-semites. We don't need Larry Craig. We pay a price for having those people represent our party.

22 posted on 02/29/2008 6:10:34 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: SJackson
Let me also say that for an official to base American foreign policy on the voting habits of a domestic minority should be a disqualification from office.

LOL.

Better to have U.S. foreign policy based on the influence of foreign lobbyists?!

23 posted on 02/29/2008 6:16:02 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: SJackson

Do you think Jews don’t vote for Republicans because of Baker? The ongoing proof is that most Jews are liberal and they support overwhelmingly liberal candidates and communist dictators, groups that are out to kill them when the time is right.


24 posted on 02/29/2008 6:16:55 AM PST by rabidralph ("Hope," is an impotent wish unless followed with targeted "action.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Good Grief! The Democrats are the anti-SEMITES!! If Jack Kemp was a REAL man, he would have gone to Jim Baker and gave him forty lashes....GEESH....and we are NOT the party of Perverts...the Democrats are!!


25 posted on 02/29/2008 6:18:00 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SJackson
Secretary of State Baker, a bigot, tells Jews like me who voted for Bush to go FU*K ourselves.

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. Although I voted for the man **twice** and I'm not Jewish, GWB has told a lot of us to go Fu*K ourselves. These topics on which this has occurred include, but are not limited to, the prescription drug give-a-way, his signing of McCain-Feingold, amnesty and border control, the out of control spending, and most recently, the vote buying "economic stimulus" scheme he's entered into with the DemocRats.....but there are other examples.....

26 posted on 02/29/2008 6:18:44 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
you can bet McCain will be weak dealing vs Islamic Terror

I am not a defender of McCain nor will I be voting for him. However, the idea that McCain will be weak in dealing with the WOT is pure, unadulterated BS.

27 posted on 02/29/2008 6:20:42 AM PST by kabar
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To: Ann Archy
I certainly agree. But the media is able to paint us as anti-semites because a high profile guy like Baker says stupid things. The media paints us as hypocritical perverts because Larry Craig tries to pick up men in public toilets.

It's not accurate. It's not fair. But the only way to combat it is to make sure that we actively police ourselves and not tolerate behavior that hurts the party.

28 posted on 02/29/2008 6:23:20 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Obadiah
Isn’t Zbigniew Brzezinski currently advising Barak Hussein Obama?

The anti-Semitic Brzezinski who worked for the anti-Semitic Carter......but hey James Baker said something that hurt their feelings and that;s all that matters.

29 posted on 02/29/2008 6:23:23 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Baynative
is this the reason that Jews will vote as a block for a socialist democrat?

no. us jewish culture flows from the early 20th century immigration from eastern europe, which brought over a virulent socialist ethos. a strongly verbal, education-stressing, high-achievement culture vaulted the children of that cohort into powerful posts in the academy, law and media, leading to the spread of socialist ideology.

It is the culture I grew up within, and know intimately.

Israel is of secondary importance to these people; seizing control of the Federal coercive mechanism is vastly more important to them.

With the passage of the generations, however, the socialists are taking their foolishness to the next world. Their children, though still not devoted to Israel, seem more mainstream in their US politial ideology. FWIW.

30 posted on 02/29/2008 6:24:25 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: SJackson

What I never understood was how this bozo Baker, who was always a Bush family retainer, was able to serve as President Reagan’s chief of staff from 1981 to 1985.


31 posted on 02/29/2008 6:26:39 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: SJackson
Meanwhile, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports that the wearing of baseball caps has become widespread among Orthodox Jewish men in France who fear that wearing a yarmulke will invite anti-Semitic attacks

Wouldn't they still stand out? I would think that baseball is virtually unknown in France, and that very few Frenchmen wear baseball caps.

32 posted on 02/29/2008 6:26:45 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: SJackson
A situation caused to a large extend by Republican bigots like Baker.

Please. Facts are stubborn things. The Jewish vote in this country has historically gone overwhelming Dem and in some cases, socialist, long before James Baker and other Rep "bigots" came on the scene.

Here is the Jewish Vote In Presidential Elections from 1916 onwards

33 posted on 02/29/2008 6:28:37 AM PST by kabar
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To: ClearCase_guy
Kemp and Baker never got along. Kemp was always very pro-Israel and he was HUD Secretary at that time, which is the position that deals most with big city mayors.

Baker's antipathy for Israel goes hand in hand with the Bush family's closeness to the Saudi royal family. The only reason the U.S. came to Kuwait's aid in the first Gulf War was because of the threat Iraq posed to the Saudis. Baker and Bush 41 could not have cared less about Iraq's threats to Israel.

34 posted on 02/29/2008 6:30:13 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Waiting for 2012 to vote for an actual Republican)
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To: ClearCase_guy

We pay a price for having those people represent our party.
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It’s why so many jews are democrats. The perception has always been that at least they have some influence there.
Too many high ranking republicans have given them ammo over the years.


35 posted on 02/29/2008 6:30:50 AM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
There is nothing "anti-Semetic" or "Jew-Hat[ing]" about what James Baker said. James Baker was clearly anti-Zionist, but that does not impute "anti-Semetism," merely anti-Zionism.

It would help matters if people understood the difference between being "Jewish" and being "Zionist." There are still in America a lot of Jews who believe that the Zionists went against the Word of God by establishing Israel by their actions rather than waiting for God to fulfill his promises.

I happen to be very pro-Israel and consider Israel one of our most indispensible and strongest allies...when it suits their needs...but for Ed "Crotch" to launch into this "poor us Jews" attack against anyone who takes exception to some of the actions of the state of Israel or who doesn't kowtow to AIPAC's every demand is beyond the pale.

If he has some sort of person animosity towards Baker, it is fine for him to voice it, but everything he attacks Baker for saying was factually accurate, if less than elegant in the manner in which it was said.

Too many people on the Left looking to be victims and not enough being adult enough to understand that not everyone is going to like you.
36 posted on 02/29/2008 6:31:15 AM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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To: exit82
And shame on Bush II for never addressing Baker’s perfidy on the Iraq Study Commission.

I think the Iraq Surrender Group's recommendations have been addressed perfectly. The President thanked them, then ignored them and did what he thought would work. It did. He proved them wrong, much more powerful than arguing with them.

37 posted on 02/29/2008 6:31:58 AM PST by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: SJackson
Focusing on the controversy over a cartoon in a Rutgers University newspaper mocking the Holocaust, Mayor Koch initiated correspondence with university presidents, scholars and free speech specialists about whether Rutgers was correct that it was powerless to respond.

Compare with the Islamic cartoon controversy, where only three or four print publications in the entire world have had the guts to publish them. It puts all these champions of free speech in a new light.

38 posted on 02/29/2008 6:32:34 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: exit82

And shame on Bush II for never addressing Baker’s perfidy on the Iraq Study Commission.


Yes.....and no doubt Baker’s seemingly pro-Islamic terrorist slant w the ISC was more than to curry favor w Islamic Terrorist states. Baker is anti-semitic


40 posted on 02/29/2008 6:36:37 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Anyone Notice....But It Is Only The Low-Rated Talk Radio Hosts That Support McCain)
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