Posted on 01/29/2008 9:54:51 AM PST by FewsOrange
It hasnt generated a lot of headlines, but in the world of religion and politics, its a pretty big deal. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, recently asked six high-profile, hyper-wealthy Pentecostal televangelists for their financial records, under the suspicion that theyre using their ministries for personal gain. (Imagine that.)
Not surprisingly, most of the televangelists ministries have been loath to cooperate with the inquiry. One in particular is pledging a holy war.
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) has gone after more than a few iconic nonprofits during his tenure atop the Finance Committee, including the Red Cross, Smithsonian and Harvard University.
But now the Finance ranking member and former chairman may have met his match: televangelist Kenneth Copeland of the sprawling Kenneth Copeland Ministries based in Newark, Texas.
In a Jan. 22 closed-circuit broadcast of his 2008 Ministers Conference obtained by Roll Call, Copeland pledges a holy war against Brother Grassley and the Senate for attempting to get a look at the controversial ministrys finances. Grassley wrote a Nov. 6 letter to Copeland and five other prominent ministers requesting a variety of financial information.
You render unto the government what belongs to the government. And you render unto God what belongs to God, Copeland loudly intones to approving murmurs from the crowd of 1,000 ministers and their guests.
Oh, the irony is rich. These TV preachers believe the separation of church and state is some kind of Satanic, communist plot to be rejected by decent people everywhere. That is, right up until a senator wonders if perhaps theyre abusing their tax-exempt status, at which point the church-state wall is high and impregnable.
Now, I should note that, as a rule, Im not inclined to have government officials poking around churches books unless the church is receiving tax dollars or is suspected of wrongdoing. In this case, the latter applies.
Grassley contacted six ministries that has engaged in activities that certainly look like fraud. These tax-exempt ministries are required, by law, not to use donations from followers to enrich themselves, and theres considerable evidence that theyve done just that.
Its no wonder, then, that some of these Pentecostal televangelists are reluctant to share information with Grassley. Copeland seems to be quite the drama-queen about it.
After a searing attack on Grassleys tactics which Copeland says were designed to sully his image and pressure him via the media Copeland says he will never provide information on his donors, even if he is ordered to do so by subpoena.
You can go get a subpoena, and I wont give it to you! Copeland storms. Its not yours, its Gods and youre not going to get it and thats something Ill go to prison over. So, just get over it! he tells Grassley, jamming his finger into the air. And if theres a death penalty that applies, well just go for it!
I see.
As for the broader political context, because the six ministries involved are all mega-churches, filled with likely Republican voters, theres quite a bit of consternation about Grassleys inquiry.
Doug Wead, head of evangelical outreach for ex-President George H.W. Bush, said the move threatens to fracture the tenuous coalition of Pentecostal and Baptist voters that supported President George W. Bush in his campaigns. He said the ministers see the probe as personal because Grassley is a Baptist and the churches are all Pentecostal. Grassley argues the inquiry is about tax-exempt policy and not religious doctrine. He says he did not know the churches denominations before the letters were sent.
Hes dividing the base that George W. Bush had, Wead contended. Hes opened this deep fissure. If you look at it as a Republican, it looks disastrous.
Well, thats certainly a good reason for a senator to look the other way on suspected fraud and abuse, isnt it?
As for what kind of holy war these ministries might consider, we havent seen any details yet, but it should be interesting. Stay tuned.
If these “ministers” are not doing anything wrong, why aren’t they willing to prove it? Because they CANNOT prove it and they know it.
Oh, the injustice of it!
Grassley should be fired by the voters, he is a crying shame to this nation
Not at all surprising to find Senator Grassley ignoring the fact that it's his finger on the trigger.
Frankly, I'd like to examine his personal finances going back about 10 years.
Government is worse than those guys by far
I’m sorry I don’t click random YouTube links, I am work and don’t care to get fired.
If there are preachers commiting armed robbery they should, of course, be locked up, as should Senators and Representatives who take bribes.
they say god will return it 10-fold, so they are not making those promises, god is... so sue god. lol
You are exactly right. There is not much difference between these “preachers” and the baby mamas in the hood.
Nor are you forced to give to the salesman who offers to sell you the investment that returns 10 fold. You trust that he is right because he makes the claim.
they are amatuers compared to government
Basically, the 6+ minute video is from a newscast that shows how the Copelands are using their 20 million dollar jet for personal use.
Does that bother you?
Preachers like politicians can be a lying and thieving lot. So, when Copeland referred to Grassley as brother, I am not sure if that was a religious or professional appellation. If I were on the Finance Committee, I might be looking into how banks could have had so much worthless debt on the balance sheets as assets. Grassly’s major problem is, he is as clueless as he looks. Iowa’s other Senator is not as clueless as Grassly, and therein lies the problem, Harkin knows exactly what he is doing, that is being among the most treacherous of a very treacherous bunch known as the United States Senate.
Yeah but the independent insurance agent isn’t paying 1000% return that he promised you, he says the insurance company is doing that. So sue the company.
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