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On Louisiana's Caucuses Tonight (Ambinder sees Romney Win)
The Atlantic.com ^ | 01/22/08 | Marc Ambinder

Posted on 01/22/2008 6:45:45 PM PST by Reaganesque

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To: Vigilanteman

It is interesting, isn’t it? Mormons and Catholics get along just fine. Seems the people picking the fights aren’t us.


41 posted on 01/22/2008 7:43:42 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: MplsSteve

“There are a lot of southern Baptists in the northern part of the state - fertile ground for Huckabee.”

You would think so...

But apparently Huckabee has very little presense here and very little organization. I don’t know how things are going to stack up. The sessions are closed now.

Results should start coming in....


42 posted on 01/22/2008 7:44:39 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Reaganesque

I’ve personally been an agnostic, then a fundie and I married a Catholic and eventually decided to join the Catholic Church. I’m not as faithful as I’d like to be or ought to be. From where I’m standing I think both flavors of Christianity view Mormonism as a cult. I don’t mean to hurt anyones feelings but that’s the way I see it.

http://www.catholic.com/library/Mormon_Stumpers.asp


43 posted on 01/22/2008 7:44:55 PM PST by ToryNotion
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To: Reaganesque; redgirlinabluestate
I've just returned from the Louisiana Caucus in Baton Rouge where I was running as a Mitt Romney delegate. Here are my first impressions.

Three campaigns had a presence. They were the Ron Paul campaign, the Mitt Romney campaign, and the John McCain campaign. In addition, a group calling itself "Pro-Life, Pro-family" was supporting a slate of delegates.

Of these groups, Ron Paul's campaign had the most visible presence. People with Ron Paul T-shirts, signs, and buttons were everywhere. Many of them were college students, but I saw a good mix of Ron Paul supporters of every age. Some dressed very casually as young people tend to do, and others looked more conventional. Ron Paul was in Louisiana on Monday, and visiting the state allowed him to mobilize his people.

John McCain's people weren't quite as visible in the crowd. The McCain stickers and buttons weren't as obvious. They seemed to be an older group of people. However, no voter could approach the building without being offered a card with the John McCain slate at least once. Many of the people coming to vote were obviously John McCain supporters. They had their card with the McCain slate, and they weren't interested in receiving a card from any other candidate. John McCain has received some high profile endorsements in the state, and those endorsements will carry some votes.

Our group was a pretty nice mixture. We had a couple of kids who walked around the parking lot with Mitt Romney signs. We had a good mix of ages in our supporters. Some people came to the caucus looking for one of us to provide the list of Romney delegate candidates, and others were less sure but at least willing to listen.

The "Pro-Life, Pro-Family" group also had a good representation. Quite a few people passing me had the pro-life list and were not really interested in looking at another list.

Some of the people on the ballot are fixtures in the Baton Rouge Republican community. One man running in my district was the GOP candidate for U.S. Senate in 1996, and he barely lost that race. Many people thought that Mary Landrieu won only through fraud. I believe he's uncommitted to any candidate at this time, but I'm certain that he'll win one of the 15 delegate positions from our district. Another man has run for several statewide offices and may have even held one of those offices recently. He was on the Mitt Romney slate as well as being on the pro-life slate. I'm certain that he'll win one of the positions. A few others seem to be big names in the local GOP community, so I'm sure they'll win as well.

Beyond those people, I couldn't tell who had the best turnout. I won't be surprised to see the Ron Paul people win most of the positions in the 6th District. Of the 15 positions in the 6th district, we may end up with three or four supporting Mitt Romney, four or five supporting John McCain, four or five supporting Ron Paul, and a few uncommitted delegates. Maybe we'll do better even better, but I can't report an easy win for us tonight. I will be very surprised if I'm one of the Mitt Romney supporters who wins.

Overall, people were nice. A few of the Ron Paul supporters were hard core and did a little shouting. Most of them were young people who were fun. As the incoming voters slowed, I spent some time talking to a few of them. I've been an official volunteer on a Ron Paul congressional campaign, so they couldn't say that I was someone who didn't understand and never listened to Dr. Paul. Overall, they were a good group. I also enjoyed talking to other Mitt Romney supporters. I've not done any live campaigning with the Romney people, and this event was fun.

Bill

44 posted on 01/22/2008 7:45:24 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: CaspersGh0sts

~”But recall Paul got 2nd in Nevada....”~

While technically true, you’d have to agree that that’s overstating the situation a bit.


45 posted on 01/22/2008 7:46:34 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: claudiustg
Rush broke for Mitt today. Said his brother endorsed Fred and Fred pulled out today. He suggested his brother endorse Mclame and huckster and hopefully get the same result as Fred.
46 posted on 01/22/2008 7:46:43 PM PST by primatreat ( Hold political and scientific idiots responsible by taking their money away!)
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To: Reaganesque

Ron Paul’s supporters seem to have organized pretty well for the ‘uncontested’ Louisiana caucuses.


47 posted on 01/22/2008 7:46:44 PM PST by ToryNotion
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To: CaspersGh0sts

~”Results should start coming in....”~

That’s all well and good... but where? I can’t find coverage of this anywhere!


48 posted on 01/22/2008 7:47:52 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You can check my post #44 for a recap of how things were at Baton Rouge. I don't have any numbers, but your folks made a good showing tonight. Dr. Paul's trip to Louisiana is going to help him a great deal.

Bill

49 posted on 01/22/2008 7:47:59 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: tantiboh
That’s all well and good... but where? I can’t find coverage of this anywhere!

Here are the official results page:

http://www400.sos.louisiana.gov:8090/cgibin/?rqstyp=elcms2&rqsdta=020908

I'm honestly a bit worried about his one. Paul had the ground game in place for this one...
50 posted on 01/22/2008 7:51:22 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: claudiustg

A good case in point would be Al Smith, a Catholic from New York, who carried the South running against Hoover in 28.

Uh...in those days, the South voted Democrat no matter what. Case in point, they voted solidly for the Democrat Win Hancock in 1880...in spite of the fact that his corps held the line before Pickett’s Charge at Gettysburg. That’s why Southern Democrats were called “Yellow Dog Democrats.” They would vote for a yellow dog if it were on the D ticket...they were NEVER gonna vote for the party of Lincoln no matter what...


51 posted on 01/22/2008 7:51:29 PM PST by Keith (ANY REPUBLICAN in 2008 -- it's about defeating Mrs. Bill Clinton)
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To: tantiboh
They are going to have to hand count hundreds of ballots. In most districts, there were about fifty to ninety names on the delegate list and sometimes as many as forty on the alternate list. Each voter marked up to fifteen names with a pen. The counters will have to look at each ballot, ensure that the voter didn't mark more than fifteen names, and then count write down one vote for each delegate candidate who received a vote. The process is going to be tedious, and the counters are likely still counting. Furthermore, some districts voted in more than one location, and the ballots from outlying locations will be transported elsewhere for counting. We may not have results until tomorrow sometime.

For my eyewitness account of things in Baton Rouge, you can check post #44.

Bill

52 posted on 01/22/2008 7:52:04 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: WFTR

Thank you for proving that you can post on Free Republic and mention Ron Paul without spewing venom on the man and his supporters. I want to share that I heard Mitt on the AM radio while driving back from dropping my son off at college. Mitt told a storing about his sons giving him a classic car for his 60th birthday. He was extremely charming and engaging and I thoroughly enjoyed the anecdote.


53 posted on 01/22/2008 7:52:22 PM PST by ToryNotion
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To: ToryNotion

~”From where I’m standing I think both flavors of Christianity view Mormonism as a cult.”~

I’m not aware of any official Catholic declarations to that effect. The Catholic Church has, of course, decried the LDS Church, along with all other non-Catholic denominations, as being in error, heretical, etc. I would expect nothing different, as all churches think they have embraced the truth.

I could, of course, answer each of the “stumpers” posed in your link, if you care. Most people don’t.


54 posted on 01/22/2008 7:52:50 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh

Confucious say, “Better to be friend in company of Mormon
than slave in den of Witch”


55 posted on 01/22/2008 7:56:30 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Reaganesque

My money’s on Romney, now. With Thompson gone, he’s our last hope.

And despite what everyone thinks, I think he’d obliterate Clinton in a debate. As long as he remembers the fundamentals of conservatism, and how it ‘works every time its tried’, including against the principles of liberalism in a debate.


56 posted on 01/22/2008 7:56:37 PM PST by WiseGuyF686
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Thanks!


57 posted on 01/22/2008 7:56:53 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: WFTR

Thanks for the report, Bill.

A bit more complicated of a process in LA than in most caucus states, it seems.


58 posted on 01/22/2008 7:58:17 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: TheLion

Wow. All politics aside, the Romney’s would certainly win the “We Actually Love Each Other” contest over the most blatantly sham loving marriage in history - Hill and Bill. I’ll leave the Obama’s alone until further notice but I am sure they could never surpass the fraud that is the Clinton marriage. Heck, the Clinton’s got their start by following Super Bowl ‘92 with a 60 Minutes interview protesting anybody’s questioning of their love for each other.


59 posted on 01/22/2008 7:58:34 PM PST by torchthemummy (Go Mitt! I Know He Has Alot To Prove But I Believe He Will Exceed Expectations)
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To: WFTR

Great job, thanks for the post.


60 posted on 01/22/2008 7:58:40 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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