Why Rush Limbaugh Doesn't Like Duncan Hunter

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[pissant]

I was surprised to hear Rush Limbaugh the other day say that there was no 'Thoroughbred' Conservative in the 2008 Republican nomination Field for President. I was thinking to myself, What? Rep. Duncan Hunter is Conservative right down the line. From his web site: Hunter' Ratings

National Rifle Association: A+

Americans for Better Immigration: A+

Eagle Forum: 100%

Christian Coalition: 100%

Family Research Council Action: 100%

Campaign for Working Families: 100%

Concerned Women for America: 100%

National Right to Life Committee: 100%

Federation for American Immigration Reform: 100%

National Federation of Independent Business: 100%

Gun Owners of America: A (Read GOA article here)

** GodVoters.org: A ** (the ONLY A they gave) (See their endorsement here)

American Conservative Union: 92%

Americans for Tax Reform: 88.5% (lifetime, most recent rating was 100%)

National Tax Limitation Committee: 88

National Taxpayers Union: B

ACLU: 7% (indicates very conservative)

NARAL: 0% (indicates a pro-life record)

Exactly how Conservative can you get? Ok, so what's with Limbaugh? Simple, found this On the Hill article that says:

"It is difficult to change Rep. Duncan Hunter’s mind. House leadership officials and the White House have found that out the hard way."

"When they wanted him to vote for a pending trade bill last year, Hunter (R-Calif.) refused — again and again. And when the Bush administration tried to convince the powerful Armed Services Committee on its controversial port security plan, Hunter refused to budge."

"Twisting Hunter’s arm is impossible, his close friends say."

The article continues:

"And Hunter, whom many call a protectionist, was instrumental in scuttling a deal that would have given the operations at six major U.S. ports to Dubai Ports World, a company owned by the United Arab Emirates."

“He was shocked that the administration approved the deal,” said Rep. Jim Saxton (R-N.J.), a senior member of Hunter’s committee and a close friend. Saxton worked with Hunter to introduce legislation blocking the deal and revising the foreign-investment process to ensure national security.

“On the Dubai issue, he got all fired up,” a congressional source said. Hunter gathered information to prove that Dubai has not been trustworthy — despite repeated administration assertions that the UAE is a vital ally in the war on terrorism."

"It is not often that a guest on a TV news program has the boldness to put the interviewer’s political-activism past in the open, but Hunter wasn’t one to shy away. He made sure to point out, three times, that George Stephanopoulos, the host of ABC’s “This Week,” had worked for President Clinton, who supported the Dubai Ports deal."

“I don’t think President Clinton, your old boss, knows the facts of the transshipment that take place through Dubai sending nuclear components to all parts of the world,” Hunter told Stephanopoulos, in one of the references to Clinton."

I remember Rush getting particularly getting bent out of shape on the issue:

Rush probably felt he could personally change every American's mind on the issue from behind the EIB Golden Microphone, but alas, the deal fell through. Is El Rushbo taking out his frustration on the actual 'Thoroughbred Conservative' Republican Candidate for POTUS in 2008?

Hey Rush, why don't you give your ego a break bud?

[Defiant]

That's not all that rush does. Take immigration as an example. He raised it, analyzed the legislation, talked about its consequences, talked about who was for it an against it, showed how every ploy and strategy was bogus, and helped get people pretty worked up.

Did he really have to say "don't vote for McCain" when that battle was over? Not to his audience.

I'm not saying I don't wish that he would come out a little stronger in this election. But I can certainly understand his decision and respect it. He has done his part.

Personally, I'd rather he ran. Worst case, he gets hammered over the vicodin. Best case, he takes it head on, gets past it, and gets nominated. Who doesn't think Rush can't take on the MSM the way Reagan did? He's one of the last vestiges of Reaganism left. We are back to 1975, folks. The GOP is a party of moderates saying "me too" and following the Dems into socialism and social libertine behavior. Back then, there were a few writers (Bill Buckley most prominently) a very few academics, and almost no politicians who you would call conservative in the Reagan sense of principled philosophical conservatism. Reagan created it, and remade the GOP into a conservative party. The Bushes and their people then spent the last 19 years destroying what he created, and the job is almost done.

That's why the outcry for a Reagan. Conservatives are sensing that we need someone to retake the party, or it will be back to the tired old Rockefeller/Romney/Ford party of the 1970s. Rudy and Mitt fit right in with that party. Thompson would have been on the fringes, but he could have gotten along. Duncan Hunter would have been an outcast to them, a neanderthal with wild ideas who made them look bad to the Washington Post. Reagan gave us Hunter as mainstream GOP (in fact, they came in together as I recall.) Bush I and II have, in the words of Peggy Noonan, squandered all of that. Intentionally, I think.

[Just A Nobody]

>>> “That’s just a copout blaming it on the media. He was in plenty of debates. Nothing happened.” <<<

Yep.....

According to the transcript, here are the number of words spoken by each candidate at the Phony Debate of 11-28-07:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/28/486055.aspx

Giuliani 3171
Romney 3105
McCain 1973
Huckabee 1950
Thompson 1575
Paul 1307
Tancredo 789
Hunter 655

This was the amount of time given to each candidate at the CNN/Youtube Circus Debate:

http://dhgrassrevolt.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/equal-time/

Giuliani — 16:38, during 20 times
Romney — 13:18, during 19 times
Thompson — 12:16, during 12 times
McCain — 11:00, during 12 times
Huckabee — 10:00, during 11 times
Paul — 7:43, during 9 times
Hunter — 5:06, during 7 times
Tancredo — 3:49, during 7 times

Yes sireee Bob! He had every chance in the world.

[Kevmo]

Your involvement in this thread was an insult as well. It’s probably a good day for you to wuss out on such a challenge as I laid down. Good luck with your courage-free conservatism.

[plain talk]

So? Based on how they were polling that is about right and fair. The low tier candidates are lucky they were allowed to even be in some of those debates. They were taking time away from candidates with a chance. Hunter has had decades to make a name for himself and no one has heard of him. Now that he has dropped out - finally - he should focus on his own bavckyard - senate or governor.

[RasterMaster]

That’s a trend that needs to be changed, in my opinion.

[roamer_1]

It would require a lot of research. I can't recall anyone being shutout of a debate in the primaries.

Actually, Dr. Keyes was shut out multiple times.

[RasterMaster]

“What good is DH if he can’t get his campaign off the ground?”

Hunter, unlike Romney, didn’t get rich by selling out to the Chinese communists and counts on individuals rather than big corporations. Nor does he have a cult backing him as Flipper Romney has.

The fact that Huckabee was a governor at all is the only thing that gives him mythological “electability”. He has enough people fooled on his “religious credentials” (which are also phony) rather than his LIEberal record in Arkansas.

McCain has been campaigning for the office more than 10 years...and the LIEberals love him because he’s a sell-out.

The rest of the field aren’t faring all that much better than Hunter, so the fools who say Hunter “has no chance” while pushing a RINO expose themselves for what they are.

For anyone to vote for the top tier OPEN BORDER, PRO-AMNESTY RINOs should tell you what’s going on.

[Aquamarine]

It's too late for Hunter now anyway. He was shut out by the media outlets in a very unfair way and ignored by so called conservatives.

Duncan Hunter was fit for the office but sadly pushed aside. Maybe Hillary will bring us a conservative the way Carter brought us Reagan.

[restornu]

Only you would have those distorted views of the capitalist!

[Dog Gone]

You don’t get it. You don’t get to challenge me to anything. I don’t work for you or answer to you. Good luck with your intellect-free conservatism.

[RasterMaster]

Sell that BS to those who’ve lost their livlihood due to your globalist version of “capitalism”....I am not the only one.

[Little_GTO]

However, I think Huck, though non-establishment, is a more ‘compassionate’ conservative than even GWB. His envoronmentalism for Jesus is too much to take for this conservative.

I will vote Hunter in the primary and maybe Hunter in the general. My state has been going for the Rodent Party in recent presidential elections. If my state is in play, I may have to reconsider.

I haven't separated all of the truth from the BS on the Huckster yet. There are a lot of Romneyulans spreading stuff about Huck on this forum. I agree with you about the Green Jesus issue. I think on many things he is just uninformed or wrongly informed. It looks like his core is better than the rest of the group. With good people around him he might be OK.

This is also a strategic situation. Not exactly like chess, more like Hollywood Squares (Jim, I'll take the Huckster to block please). Look at this as a first step toward re-taking the party back from the Rockefeller Republicans (aka Bush Inc.). If a republican outsider takes the White House from Bush III (Willard) we would have a better chance of moving it further to the right.

[Kevmo]

I did challenge you and you wussed out. Let the lurkers decide for themselves. Caveat Subscriptor. I’m done with you on this thread.

[Little_GTO]

Actually, Dr. Keyes was shut out multiple times.

Ah yes. Thank you for reminding me.

[Just A Nobody]

Great post! Thank you for all the work you did.
I will reread a few more times. Just a couple things now.

His campaign may be getting the cold shoulder straight from the top at the RNC.

There is no "may" about it. He has been completely, totally shut out! The fact that only the NH GOP withdrew their sponsorship of the faux NH "debate" and not one of the worthless scum that did participate objected to Hunter's exclusion on the EVE of the FIRST national anything of the election season speaks volumes!!! Not one national spokesperson for the RNC made a sound. Only Dennis Kucinich. Why does no one get it? As I've said before, the fix is in, and always has been.

[Just A Nobody]

Late to the campaign, dragged his feet then way down in the primaries and polls.

Reading your comments immediately following GTO's post right above caused a "eureka" moment.

Maybe Fred was the phony candidate to throw the sheeple into a tizzy while the well oiled machine was in stealth mode promoting their candidate of choice, Mitt.

Nothing has added up or made sense since day one. Fred has a record that we were "discouraged" from pointing out. We were shouted down with absurdities having no basis in fact. Much the way the commies act when we confront them on the street.

Once bits and pieces were exposed, it was "that was so long ago who cares" and the like. Much like the excuses for Mitt were all about how he had "no choice" in Mass, but to govern like a liberal. Like GTO said, Huck is the joker in the deck as a bone to make the Christians think they are getting something.

Very interesting..........

[SoCalPol]

Very good thinking.
THere seems to be a lot of 2+2=5 with this election

[CowboyJay]

I’ll cross that bridge when/if we come to it. Until that time, I’ll continue to support Fred. No, he’s not perfect, but he would be the most conservative Presidential candidate from either major party in my lifetime.

Incrementalism works fine, as long as it’s the left giving ground, and not us. Paradigm shifts take place over the course of decades and lifetimes, not single election cycles. Reagan understood this. Marxists and Socialists didn’t start dismantling our country last week. They’ve done it piece-by-piece over the last 100 years. It’s going to take awhile to fix it.

Hunter has no money and no name recognition. He’s a non-starter. I know you don’t want to hear this. Please don’t shoot the messenger.

Thompson’s in better shape, and he has a very good shot to get the nod if we can force a brokered convention. I’m not going to indulge in a quixotic non-vote for a candidate with zero chance of winning while Fred’s still in the race.

If Thompson withdraws before the convention (not likely), I’ll give my vote to Hunter. All the other pretenders would move the party AND the country to the left. Like yourself, I’m not laying down for that again.

I answered your question, now I have one for you:

Suppose you get your wish? Let’s say Thompson drops out because ‘real’ conservatives like yourself are too busy slaying windmills with Duncan to lend your support. Then the inevitable happens and Hunter drops out when he goes completely broke, and we end up with a card-carrying Socialist prick as the GOP nominee... Will you wish you’d thrown a tankful of gas in the Big Red Pickup before it left town?

[Rockitz]

Y’know if we truly had free trade that would be one thing but what we have in many cases is a very unlevel playing field in terms of 1)unfair monetary policy of certain regimes, 2) outright slavery in other countries, 3) blatant disregard for the environmental costs of production in most cases, and 4) costly unilateral military policy by the US in almost all cases. All of those and probably many others make trade advantageous for other countries and corporatists with factories in those other countries and disadvantageous for the US worker. The availability of cheap goods will never make up for this disadvantage.

While a global view of our economy would be great in a free world with one government, one culture, and one set of ideals by which we all lived, we live in a real world of many sovereign nations of different cultures and ideals, some with evil people in control.

Unfortunately, there are many Utopian-minded economists and businessmen who are oblivious to the need for sovereignty from other nations and thus don’t understand that conservation of freedom, culture, capability, capital, and access to natural resources are essential to the sustainment of a sovereign nation of free people. These are the one-world government globalists who see borders as an impediment to profits and their own enrichment and place no value in preservation of freedom, culture, or the existing population of a nation. The elite class has an inordinate amount of control over our governance and economy. Through their proxies in the government, the elites have successfully achieved “free trade” and open borders in our own country and have effectively reduced the economic time scales for transition of businesses to foreign shores to months as opposed to years or never in some cases and yet left the economic time scales for affected US workers measured in years and possibly decades (retraining, moving family to a new location, possibly assimilating to a new culture). Unfortunately, the US worker has little understanding of global wage parity and can do little to control work environments that are effectively slavery in other sovereign nations and don’t have the regulatory and security costs associated with working here. With the advent of both “free trade” and open borders as well as the unlevel playing field upon which he is required to compete, the US worker has suddenly priced himself out of the global market for many jobs. This is partially his own doing as unions have pushed for wages that greatly exceeded those in other sovereign nations. Nonetheless, when his government changed the rules for trade and didn’t enforce the borders, the rug was effectively pulled from beneath him. The US worker of this generation will probably never recover and the middle class of this country will soon vanish.

Well at least we agree that the government is at fault.

[restornu]

There will always be change it also happen in the horse and buggy days when they introduce the Model T.

Capitalist create jobs.

One door cloeses another one opens for those who are paying attention.

Sorry if some feel they were evicted from their comfort zone!

It could be the Lord telling those they need to lengthen their stride.

Some forget there are many options available to us!