The Democratic Party is circumventing the democratic process by creating unelected super delegates who account for a large part of the votes needed for the nomination. The L. A. Times is worried that Hillary will use these delegates to disenfranchise Obama. They think this could cost the dems the 2008 election.
1 posted on
01/19/2008 3:37:17 AM PST by
Puzzleman
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To: Puzzleman
2 posted on
01/19/2008 3:46:18 AM PST by
SatinDoll
(Fredhead and proud of it!)
To: Puzzleman
Unfortunately for us, I don’t think the RAT leaders are stupid enough to make this blunder. If Obama wins an outright majority or plurality of the primary vote, I think a majority super delegates will go with Obama.
After all, there isn’t a human being on earth who actually LOVES the Clintons. Not even the Clintons themselves.
Well, let me correct that. Hillary loves herself. Bill loves himself. I have no idea who Chelsea loves. But Bill doesn’t love Hillary nor does she love him.
(Now I have to go wash my mouth out with soap just for thinking about “Clinton” and “love” at the same time.)
3 posted on
01/19/2008 4:29:01 AM PST by
samtheman
To: Puzzleman
Democrats have already disenfranchised the whole state of Michigan. I am not sure why commentators are not pointing that out.
To: Puzzleman
Super Delegates were the Democrat Party's solution to a previous problem, when their dumbed-down, screwball supporters kept voting for unelectable nutcases. So, the DNC decided that voting for unelectable nutcases was a job for the professionals. Voila, Super Delegates.
Actually, Super Delegates are a model of what the Democrat Party wants to bring to the Federal Government. They would like a permanent class of experts to control the Senate and the House, because you never know, what those pesky voters are liable to do. They could actually vote in Republicans, that's how stupid the voters are.
6 posted on
01/19/2008 5:05:38 AM PST by
Jabba the Nutt
(Just laugh at them!)
To: Puzzleman
The rat perverts what he touches, doen’t he?
8 posted on
01/19/2008 5:13:34 AM PST by
jmaroneps37
(Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
To: Puzzleman
The super delegates, like so many politicians, operate under my "Blackmail Theory of Politics".
If you have the dirty goods on the super delegate and the other guy dosen't you get their vote.
While this clearly favors the "FBI files" Clinton criminal gang I do know of examples where the state party has the goods on local super-delegates and the state party supports Obama.
Democratic politics in the real world is a very grimy business.
9 posted on
01/19/2008 5:17:54 AM PST by
cgbg
(Election 2008: A Long Ride On A Hillarinobama Short Bus.)
To: Puzzleman
The whole world's watching...The whole world's watching...No justice, no peace.
Dump the Hump.
I just can't WAIT for this. I wish the convention was tomorrow.
10 posted on
01/19/2008 5:31:01 AM PST by
Jim Noble
(Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
To: Puzzleman
Help. I’ve been disenfranchised. said the Obama supporters
13 posted on
01/19/2008 5:53:51 AM PST by
NeoCaveman
(It's a Texas Hold Em Primary and Fred is "All In" in South Carolina)
To: Puzzleman
Its a natural fit. The Democrats already have unelected elites legislating from the bench.
15 posted on
01/19/2008 6:12:19 AM PST by
Vigilanteman
(Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
To: Puzzleman
The Democratic Party is circumventing the democratic process by creating unelected super delegates who account for a large part of the votes needed for the nomination. The L. A. Times is worried that Hillary will use these delegates to disenfranchise Obama. They think this could cost the dems the 2008 election. Hillary only needs the Diebold vote to win...
16 posted on
01/19/2008 6:14:58 AM PST by
chilepepper
(The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
To: Puzzleman
It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
—Joseph Stalin
19 posted on
01/19/2008 6:29:43 AM PST by
Samwise
(Fred doesn't suffer fools or the media. Did I repeat myself?)
To: Puzzleman
Superdelegates represent fully 40% of all delegates to the Democrat National Convention. They include the states’ Senators, Congressmen, DNC members, and various other elected and appointed officials. That is a hugh percentage to overcome, should most of them go for Clinton.
20 posted on
01/19/2008 6:31:24 AM PST by
EDINVA
To: MurryMom
...there is a strong possibility of disenchanting a good portion of the party's base, potentially costing the party the election...They aren't called democratics for nuthin'!
22 posted on
01/19/2008 6:36:36 AM PST by
Libloather
(Do animals pollute the planet by exhaling, too?)
To: Puzzleman
The Democrats always rig everything ... Vote fraud is the only way anyone would elect these fascists.
23 posted on
01/19/2008 6:38:06 AM PST by
Tarpon
(Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
To: Puzzleman
They want to get rid of the Electoral College or award Electoral Votes based on the national popular vote contrary to state voters
BUT
They want to keep super-delegates who can override their own party’s voters and select the second place candidate.
24 posted on
01/19/2008 6:38:52 AM PST by
Arkinsaw
To: Puzzleman
Thanks for posting the article about super delegates. I never understood that process before. The Democrats sure can’t let the democratic process play out can they.
To: Puzzleman
I thought they had 852 Super Delegates.
27 posted on
01/19/2008 7:42:49 AM PST by
doug from upland
(Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
To: Puzzleman
29 posted on
01/19/2008 7:44:04 AM PST by
doug from upland
(Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
To: Puzzleman
In 2008, the 796 super delegates will make up about 20% of the entire convention. Winning the nomination requires 2,025 delegates.
30 posted on
01/19/2008 7:50:56 AM PST by
TomasUSMC
( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
To: Puzzleman
It would be better than to gather them all in a domed football stadium somewhere in an exotic location, uncommitted, and let them go for the nomination - no holds barred.
sort of like the ol time smoked filled party convention rooms from which a nominee would emerge.
save a bunch of bucks at the same time and the media would go absolutely crazy.
32 posted on
01/19/2008 8:21:47 AM PST by
elpadre
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