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The Democratic Party is circumventing the democratic process by creating unelected super delegates who account for a large part of the votes needed for the nomination. The L. A. Times is worried that Hillary will use these delegates to disenfranchise Obama. They think this could cost the dems the 2008 election.
1 posted on 01/19/2008 3:37:17 AM PST by Puzzleman
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To: Puzzleman

I sure hope so.


2 posted on 01/19/2008 3:46:18 AM PST by SatinDoll (Fredhead and proud of it!)
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To: Puzzleman

Unfortunately for us, I don’t think the RAT leaders are stupid enough to make this blunder. If Obama wins an outright majority or plurality of the primary vote, I think a majority super delegates will go with Obama.

After all, there isn’t a human being on earth who actually LOVES the Clintons. Not even the Clintons themselves.

Well, let me correct that. Hillary loves herself. Bill loves himself. I have no idea who Chelsea loves. But Bill doesn’t love Hillary nor does she love him.

(Now I have to go wash my mouth out with soap just for thinking about “Clinton” and “love” at the same time.)


3 posted on 01/19/2008 4:29:01 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Puzzleman

Democrats have already disenfranchised the whole state of Michigan. I am not sure why commentators are not pointing that out.


5 posted on 01/19/2008 4:35:10 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Puzzleman
Super Delegates were the Democrat Party's solution to a previous problem, when their dumbed-down, screwball supporters kept voting for unelectable nutcases. So, the DNC decided that voting for unelectable nutcases was a job for the professionals. Voila, Super Delegates.

Actually, Super Delegates are a model of what the Democrat Party wants to bring to the Federal Government. They would like a permanent class of experts to control the Senate and the House, because you never know, what those pesky voters are liable to do. They could actually vote in Republicans, that's how stupid the voters are.

6 posted on 01/19/2008 5:05:38 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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The rat perverts what he touches, doen’t he?


8 posted on 01/19/2008 5:13:34 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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The super delegates, like so many politicians, operate under my "Blackmail Theory of Politics".

If you have the dirty goods on the super delegate and the other guy dosen't you get their vote.

While this clearly favors the "FBI files" Clinton criminal gang I do know of examples where the state party has the goods on local super-delegates and the state party supports Obama.

Democratic politics in the real world is a very grimy business.
9 posted on 01/19/2008 5:17:54 AM PST by cgbg (Election 2008: A Long Ride On A Hillarinobama Short Bus.)
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The whole world's watching...The whole world's watching...No justice, no peace.

Dump the Hump.

I just can't WAIT for this. I wish the convention was tomorrow.

10 posted on 01/19/2008 5:31:01 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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Help. I’ve been disenfranchised. said the Obama supporters


13 posted on 01/19/2008 5:53:51 AM PST by NeoCaveman (It's a Texas Hold Em Primary and Fred is "All In" in South Carolina)
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Its a natural fit. The Democrats already have unelected elites legislating from the bench.


15 posted on 01/19/2008 6:12:19 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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The Democratic Party is circumventing the democratic process by creating unelected super delegates who account for a large part of the votes needed for the nomination. The L. A. Times is worried that Hillary will use these delegates to disenfranchise Obama. They think this could cost the dems the 2008 election.

Hillary only needs the Diebold vote to win...

16 posted on 01/19/2008 6:14:58 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.

—Joseph Stalin


19 posted on 01/19/2008 6:29:43 AM PST by Samwise (Fred doesn't suffer fools or the media. Did I repeat myself?)
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Superdelegates represent fully 40% of all delegates to the Democrat National Convention. They include the states’ Senators, Congressmen, DNC members, and various other elected and appointed officials. That is a hugh percentage to overcome, should most of them go for Clinton.


20 posted on 01/19/2008 6:31:24 AM PST by EDINVA
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...there is a strong possibility of disenchanting a good portion of the party's base, potentially costing the party the election...

They aren't called democratics for nuthin'!

22 posted on 01/19/2008 6:36:36 AM PST by Libloather (Do animals pollute the planet by exhaling, too?)
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The Democrats always rig everything ... Vote fraud is the only way anyone would elect these fascists.


23 posted on 01/19/2008 6:38:06 AM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: Puzzleman

They want to get rid of the Electoral College or award Electoral Votes based on the national popular vote contrary to state voters

BUT

They want to keep super-delegates who can override their own party’s voters and select the second place candidate.


24 posted on 01/19/2008 6:38:52 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Puzzleman

Thanks for posting the article about super delegates. I never understood that process before. The Democrats sure can’t let the democratic process play out can they.


26 posted on 01/19/2008 7:32:02 AM PST by Utah Girl
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I thought they had 852 Super Delegates.


27 posted on 01/19/2008 7:42:49 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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Here is an additional discussion - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1948856/posts


29 posted on 01/19/2008 7:44:04 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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In 2008, the 796 super delegates will make up about 20% of the entire convention. Winning the nomination requires 2,025 delegates.


30 posted on 01/19/2008 7:50:56 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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It would be better than to gather them all in a domed football stadium somewhere in an exotic location, uncommitted, and let them go for the nomination - no holds barred.

sort of like the ol time smoked filled party convention rooms from which a nominee would emerge.

save a bunch of bucks at the same time and the media would go absolutely crazy.

32 posted on 01/19/2008 8:21:47 AM PST by elpadre
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