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I welcome any other expert information on the identification of the rifle. On first examination I would guess that it is one of the millions of Chinese imports, but it is possible that it is from another east block country. I am pretty sure that it is not Russian.
1 posted on 12/08/2007 6:58:21 AM PST by marktwain
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So it wasnt a AK 47, just a lowly 99 dollar SKS


2 posted on 12/08/2007 7:02:11 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Wonder if he had seen the Tancrendo ad?


3 posted on 12/08/2007 7:02:25 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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Looks like a Jugoslavian SKS.

Was the shooter white or black?

4 posted on 12/08/2007 7:02:41 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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Looks like a chinese SKS


5 posted on 12/08/2007 7:03:18 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Looks like a 59/66.


6 posted on 12/08/2007 7:03:42 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Are you implying that the MSM would DARE lie or manipulate the masses? [/s]


8 posted on 12/08/2007 7:04:04 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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The photos in the link are a little small for my eyes, but it looks like it might be a Yugoslavian.
13 posted on 12/08/2007 7:06:04 AM PST by Texas Mulerider
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"probably intended to stir up anti-gun sentiment"

Ya think. LOL!

16 posted on 12/08/2007 7:08:43 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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The second this story broke I knew it was eventually going to be morphed into an anti-gun crusade. When you have Leninists running the media, what else can you expect?


22 posted on 12/08/2007 7:13:15 AM PST by samtheman
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Yup, that looks like a Yugo SKS alright.. Can tell by the grenade launcher at the end of the muzzle.

Here is the strange part however.. the pic of him IN the mall aiming the rifle, looks like an AK. I can see the 30 round mags taped together as well. The front of the rifle in that picture also looks to have a slant break muzzle device (which is common on AK47’s) and not the huge Yugo grenade launcher.


27 posted on 12/08/2007 7:17:42 AM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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Looks like a Yugoslav SKS, because of the grenade launcher/ muzzle brake. The bayonet has been replaced with some kind of aftermarket bipod or monopod, though, and the stock has some kind of extender/recoil pad on it, so it’s possible the muzzle brake is an aftermarket piece as well.


35 posted on 12/08/2007 7:23:45 AM PST by Flatus I. Maximus
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Good morning.

I saw a clip on FNC, of the shooter aiming what was clearly a Kalashnikov. The length of the weapon and the shape of the front sight post weren’t from an SKS. I thought I could see an AK magazine, but that doesn’t prove anything.

I’ll have to see if I can find the clip gain, just to prove to myself that I’m not losing it.

Michael Frazier

40 posted on 12/08/2007 7:27:22 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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MSM is always going to describe any firearm used in an improper manner as an "assault" rifle. The pro-firearm community is then forced on the defensive frantically struggling to point out the truth. What the MSM will not do is ever blame the piece of trash who committed the murders with firearms, or point out that one honest armed shooter in close proximity to the murderer bastard could have ended his murderous career quickly and decisively. The MSM will always humanize the piece of trash by giving its name and the sad details of its horrible life.

Kudos to John Gibson who, on his Fox show yesterday, refused to name the piece of garbage murderer. Apparently Gibson also refused to name the garbage on Thursday as well. I watched enough of limp wrist Shepherd Smith at 7:00 PM to see that he was not only going to name the murderer, but give the "sad" details of his "horrible" life. As an aside, ever since Smith stood outside the stadium in N.O. spreading the left wing lies about the circumstances there I have had no respect for him.

50 posted on 12/08/2007 7:33:39 AM PST by RushLake (Democrats/MSM have never met a terrorist they didn't like.)
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Forget that. The story says he drove to the mall in an SUV!


62 posted on 12/08/2007 7:38:26 AM PST by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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This is the (cough) 'AK-47 Assault Rifle with 30 round "clip"' both the DBM and THE POLICE said the perp used...

Funny thing is, it AIN'T an AK-47 and it doesn't have a 30 round magazine.

From the spike bayonet I think its Chinese ('Chinese Type 56s were in production from 1956-71. Rifles serial number 9,000,000 (1965) and higher had the spike bayonet') and it has the standard 10 round internal magazine.

So chalk up one more LIE for the Drive By Media, but you' think and hope the Cops would know better. All I heard from them on TV (the Chief I believe) was 'AK-47 Assault Rifle'.

69 posted on 12/08/2007 7:46:35 AM PST by Condor51 (Rudy has more baggage than Samsonite. But that's okay, the NYPD carries it. /s)
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So, not only was it not an "Assault Rifle", which would have to be full auto or burst fire capable, it was not even an "assault weapon" as defined by the now expired federal Assault Weapons Ban". It was just an intermediate power semi-automatic rifle, suitable for deer hunting or defending su casa o su persona

Not that it matters, to the gun graboids, or the meaning of "arms" in the second amendment. The former want to grab all types guns, the latter protects them all, and more.

72 posted on 12/08/2007 7:48:54 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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My friend’s sister in law was murdered last week while putting gas in her car. The shooter was a guy with mental problems and committed suicide after he killed her. The shooter took the gun from his parents house.

I saw the womens husband on TV last night. He said that he had guns but they were locked away. His questioned how this man had access to guns anyway. He did not put the blame on parents but his point was people need to lock their guns so things like this do not happen.


97 posted on 12/08/2007 8:04:36 AM PST by Kimmers
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Not wishing to jump off the speculation cliff . . .

however, given a lot of givens from a lot of sources . . .

I’m wondering . . . what percent chance is there

that the NWO folks

1. COULD have [I’d say 100%}

and

2. DID influence the boy toward such [hard to guess]

in their inexorable push to remove guns from the populace?

Seems to me tweaking a boy up with a deer rifle to do such an then sending him off on the task would be easily doable with a number of manipulative techniques—especially if he had psychiatric problems before hand.

Are there any . . . ops . . . folks anyone has access to who’d anonymously brave a comment?


123 posted on 12/08/2007 8:43:45 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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Have any mall shoppers spoken out on their outrage at being disarmed and unable to stop this insect? Anyone who may have left their guns in their car due to mall restrictions?


136 posted on 12/08/2007 9:10:54 AM PST by montag813
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The shots heard on the 9-11 tapes sounded like a larger caliber than a .223. Did anyone else think so?


146 posted on 12/08/2007 9:48:57 AM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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