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Deal Reached to Boost Gas Mileage
Associated Press ^ | December 1, 2007 | H. JOSEF HEBERT,AP

Posted on 12/02/2007 5:45:43 AM PST by libstripper

WASHINGTON (Dec. 1) - An agreement among congressional Democrats - including those from auto industry states - to support a 40 percent increase in vehicle fuel efficiency is likely to be the tonic needed to push energy legislation through Congress before Christmas.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., a longtime protector of the auto industry, settled their differences in an agreement late Friday on the fuel economy, or CAFE, issue, clearing the way for a House vote on a broader energy bill, probably on Wednesday.

Automakers would be required to meet an industrywide average of 35 miles per gallon for cars and light trucks, including SUVs, by 2020, the first increase by Congress in car fuel efficiency in 32 years.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada called the compromise "good news" and said he hoped to take up the legislation quickly after the House acts.

Dingell said the tougher standards are "both aggressive and attainable" and include provisions that give manufacturers the needed flexibility to bring SUVs and small trucks under compliance and to avoid job losses.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.aol.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cafe; energy
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If you thought "comprehensive immigration reform" was bad, just smell this stinker; its reek will get through the strongest gas mask.
1 posted on 12/02/2007 5:45:44 AM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

OK, this covers the US companies. What about the imports?

Will this give foreign firms another advantage?


2 posted on 12/02/2007 5:49:00 AM PST by Loud Mime (The Democrats made people believe that govt. lawyers are victims, whatta country!)
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To: libstripper

A lot of people will soon be buying and driving “heavy trucks” that look a lot like SUVs.


3 posted on 12/02/2007 5:51:39 AM PST by joshhiggins
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To: libstripper

Some similar headlines: “deal reached to boost CPU speeds”, “deal reached to discover new energy sources”, “deal reached to boost entrepreneurship”


4 posted on 12/02/2007 5:53:56 AM PST by palmer
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To: libstripper

-—full of sound and fury, signifying idiocy-—( sorry, Shakespeare)—


5 posted on 12/02/2007 5:54:11 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Loud Mime

They’ll be forced to adhere to the same CAFE requirements, but their technology usually lets them do it somewhat more effectively than the U.S. companies. The really bad thing, from the standpoint of U.S. companies and consumers is what it will do to the large SUVs and other light trucks. Full disclosure: I’m on my second Navigator (an ‘04), think it’s the best vehicle I’ve ever owned, and plan to buy an even spiffier one in the next few years.


6 posted on 12/02/2007 5:55:52 AM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Anything Harry Reid considers good news must be bad news.


7 posted on 12/02/2007 6:00:42 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: libstripper
Why don't the asses on capitol hill just vote to repeal the laws of physics? It makes as much sense as this drivel.

And while they're at it, how about outlawing hurricanes, tornadoes and earthquakes.

8 posted on 12/02/2007 6:04:51 AM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: libstripper

Where do these people get the authority to meddle in these matters?


9 posted on 12/02/2007 6:05:08 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: libstripper
The level of idiocy from these people should never surprise me, but it does. I wish they had to drive around in Yugos to see what they are trying to do to the rest of us.
10 posted on 12/02/2007 6:05:28 AM PST by Amalie (FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
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...require nonpublic electric utilities to produce 15 percent of their power from renewable energy sources such as wind or solar energy.

15 percent of their power from wind or solar energy?

Do they expect companies to wave a magic wand and make it happen?

To reach that percent, companies will have to charge vastly more money for utilities service since wind and solar power are vastly less efficient to produce

What about public utilities?

11 posted on 12/02/2007 6:07:00 AM PST by Popman (My doohickey is discombobulated)
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To: elkfersupper
Where do these people get the authority to meddle in these matters?

You're joking right?

12 posted on 12/02/2007 6:08:09 AM PST by Popman (My doohickey is discombobulated)
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To: libstripper
Unless they add an outright ban on older vehicles, expect US highways to look like Cuba; most people driving antique vehicles! We won't want give up our useful vehicles. (full disclosure: I drive a Honda CR-V and a Subaru Outback. Fairly economical, but only 24-27 mpg. We MUST have AWD.)

35 mpg CAFE will require lighter weight, less frontal area and/or slower speeds. Into this mix put increasingly tighter crash standards and traditional expectations of passenger room and baggage space.

BMW is working on an add-on steam engine to use waste heat energy going out the exhaust. Since more energy goes out the exhaust than into the transmission, this will be a great help, but will cost $$$.

‘Taint no free lunch, especially in physics!

13 posted on 12/02/2007 6:11:02 AM PST by BwanaNdege (Trust, but verify!)
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The idea that you can legislate technical progress is a liberal fantasy.

Mandating that SUVs get 35 MPG will simply cause the auto manufacturers to make smaller SUVs and force those who want a "good old fashioned and safe" real SUV to buy the next vehicle in line that is exempt from the regulations. That is exactly how the SUV became popular and this time it will lead to more people buying very fancy and large Pickup Trucks with a back seat, a small bed that has a very fancy cover that you never take off with access from the cabin. They will give them a nifty name that will infer dual use (haul those heavy loads but give your family a safe, comfortable ride) and they will sell like hotcakes.

14 posted on 12/02/2007 6:12:28 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Loud Mime

I would think that imports would be covered but vehicles made by those companies and sold outside the United States would not be included in the calculation.


15 posted on 12/02/2007 6:15:44 AM PST by reg45
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To: libstripper
< snip >...average of 35 miles per gallon for cars and light trucks, including SUVs, by 2020 < /snip >

They must be joking, right??

Anyone want to guess what 2020 car prices will be averaging? Possibly $40K to $50K or higher?

16 posted on 12/02/2007 6:17:34 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.)
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To: Popman

When is someone going to use the “N” word... Nuclear power?

No “carbon footprint”, no fossil fuel, no dependency on Chavez, sheiks or worry about tanker oil spills.

Congress can just mandate that Greenpeace et al shut-up. That is much more realistic than passing decrees concerning the laws of physics.


17 posted on 12/02/2007 6:17:51 AM PST by BwanaNdege (Trust, but verify!)
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To: BwanaNdege

Democrats have the ability to defy the physical laws of the universe. All they have to do is snap their fingers. Ask one to show you sometime. Teddy Kennedy has been doing it his entire life (except for that gravity thing over the bridge in Chappaquiddick... his fingers got wet.)


18 posted on 12/02/2007 6:18:16 AM PST by kylaka
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To: Popman

They should put a wind turbine in front of Teddy Kennedy’s mouth.


19 posted on 12/02/2007 6:18:28 AM PST by reg45
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To: libstripper
Again I am reminded of a common thread in this argument

Liberal
What good things should be done?
Make available resources preform these good things

Conservative
What available resources can be used for good?
Make good works fit available resources

Liberals engage in wish fulfillment
Conservatives look at reality

20 posted on 12/02/2007 6:19:08 AM PST by HangnJudge
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