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Inside Intel / Not a reactor - something far more vicious
Haaretz ^ | 11/22/07 | Yossi Melman

Posted on 11/26/2007 6:09:33 PM PST by dervish

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To: txflake

That is where the Russian convoys unloaded whatever they took out of Iraq just prior to the Liberation.

The tunnel entrances are huge underground storage facilities for Nuclear,Chemical, and Biological weapons components.


41 posted on 11/26/2007 10:07:52 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: editor-surveyor

I was thinking more of a spike in radiation in the water rather than finding bits of material.


42 posted on 11/26/2007 10:08:52 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: NY Attitude
Still here till the taxes drive away. My son and the kids are here so......

I suspect the IAF wasn't alone on this incursion.
43 posted on 11/26/2007 10:13:32 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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Everyone is missing the important part of the article.

You have to go to the link to read the last three paragraphs.

They explain why our Administration, and the Israeli’s haven’t produced proof of what was there that they had to destroy.

It goes to the ‘end game’. Explains quite a bit.


44 posted on 11/26/2007 10:14:39 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: BIGLOOK

“I suspect the IAF wasn’t alone on this incursion.”

Your ‘suspector’ is working pretty good, then.


45 posted on 11/26/2007 10:17:16 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; neverdem; ...

Thanks dervish.


46 posted on 11/26/2007 10:34:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BIGLOOK
I suspect the IAF wasn't alone on this incursion.

I couldn't agree with you more. It went down to smoothly. I am sure that the Russians are embarrassed to no end as the aircraft got in essentially undetected.

47 posted on 11/26/2007 11:32:55 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: mamelukesabre
"Why is he pushing israel to give away land to the palestinians?"

Maybe he's finally learned that talk is cheap in the Middle East. The Arab League routinely "condemns terrorism" while openly funding it. Why shouldn't the United States "condemn Israeli intransigence" as long as our actual material support remains unchanged? It won't hurt Israel—the world won't hate Israel any more because of anything we say—and it may well buy us some "Arab street" goodwill that translates into fewer dead US soldiers.

48 posted on 11/27/2007 12:17:26 AM PST by Fabozz
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To: Tainan

ping


49 posted on 11/27/2007 12:22:01 AM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Plutonium is hazardous if you assemble a big enough piece of it


50 posted on 11/27/2007 12:27:18 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

BUMP


51 posted on 11/27/2007 12:37:16 AM PST by kalee ( No burka for me...EVER.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Plutonium is hazardous if you assemble a big enough piece of it.

Excerpt from Article.

One microgram can kill one person, and a gram is capable of killing a million people.

Here is an image from a WashingtonPost.com article with a closeup picture of the Yongbyon Reactor. The chimney is clearly seen. I tried to post a link to their html page for the article, but the link did not work. The article was in 2005. Copyright notice under image.


Satellite Image Courtesy of Digitalglobe; Graphic by Seth Hamblin, The Washington Post - November 09, 2005

52 posted on 11/27/2007 12:40:50 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: UCANSEE2
Then why is Israel insisting on continuing to maintain total secrecy? ..... is the desire not to make things hard for the U.S. administration.

Is that the End Game ? The US negotiates with terrorist states that we know are actively attempting to acquire nuclear WMD ? I thought we did not negotiate with terrorists ? The main reason I thought was because history has proven that you cannot trust terrorists in negotiations. How can you trust someone who would wrap an explosive belt around a child and then send them off to 'paradise' ?

A good speculative article and one can find a historical precedence for the US government obfuscating for terrorist regimes that possessed WMD (Where are the Iraqi WMD's). Is our Head in the Sand diplomacy regarding Syrian Nukes related to our Head in the Sand diplomacy regarding the location of Saddam's WMD ? After all if took a few brave patriots to release at least some of Saddam's documents. Perhaps as some have stated, with regards to the nuclear issue, Syrian nuclear material and Saddam's nuclear material just might be one and the same. Unless of course we want to by the line that we are somehow covering for the Terrorist North Korean Regime.

Perhaps the simple answer - That which keeps our Heads in the Sand regarding Syrian Nukes, also keeps our Heads in the Sand regarding Saddam's WMD.

53 posted on 11/27/2007 1:03:23 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: mamelukesabre

I have been pondering that very same question since the summer of 2004 when the Condi/Powell show begin telling Israel she would begin to face consequences if they refused to resume the road map for ‘peace’. I was almost flattened by the direct expression of supidity delivered to the Israeli’s at the time.

I am confident most reading this story also knew much the facade of the six-member talks with North Korea. The North Koreans are experts at lying. I give credit where it is due, Kim Jong is brilliantly evil. He is probably a much bigger foe to deal with then Iran will ever be.

It’s no wonder John Bolton wanted nothing to do with this weak kneed bribery and about face of the State Department’s Axis of Evil and With Us or Against us policy. John Bolton was an American patriot. I wish he would run for President.

Fact is, President Bush made a great cowboy and he should have stayed that way. Successful forked tongued diplomacy with genius level evil madmen like Kim requires a very astute State Department who understands Kim’s language of lies better then he does and uses it against him. Research on foreign affairs has not seemed a strength of the Administration.

Condi Rice moral equivalency of comparing the Palestinians to the peaceful Civil Rights movement of the 60’s led by Dr. Martin Luther King is also quite troubling.

It appears as if she thinks that if the United States treats every totaltarian thug with the utmost respect they will want a deal from us to make peace. She sounds to me very much a far-left idealist like Nancy Pelosi but with a smattering of ‘compassion’ and a nice degree which gives her some elegence and credibility. However, Columbia is not Iraq, Iran, Syria or the Gaza Strip.

Of course, our enemies are taking the bribes and these funds will further accelerate the Arab bomb to be used on Israel. But hey! At least they get some global recognition for being the most gullible leaders in State Department history. That will make the history books I am sure :)


54 posted on 11/27/2007 1:10:42 AM PST by iThinkBig
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To: RayChuang88

The question is, how many more of these exist, 500 feet below the surface in Iran or Syria?


55 posted on 11/27/2007 1:13:07 AM PST by iThinkBig
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To: txflake

If indeed that is the case txflake I doubt you or I will ever hear about it.


56 posted on 11/27/2007 1:14:51 AM PST by iThinkBig
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To: txflake; SunkenCiv; All

Even told The Associated Press that evidence against the reactor theory could be found in satellite pictures of the Syrian installation taken since 2003, which showed no sign of a plutonium separation facility, an essential component, typically of large size with visible ventilation openings.

“It’s very difficult to hide a separation plant,” he said. “It’s more difficult to hide a separation plant than to hide a nuclear reactor.”

“In Yongbyon, the supposed sister facility in North Korea, you can see all those signs that I am pointing out that are missing in the Syrian place,” Even added. “You can see the chimneys, you can see the ventilation, you can see the cooling towers, you can see the separation plant. All of that is missing from the building in Syria.”

Even believes the Syrian cleanup, in which large quantities of soil were bulldozed over the site, was an attempt to smother lethal radiation from a plutonium processing plant.

“Somebody made a lot of effort to bury deeply whatever remains of this facility,” he told The AP. “Not just to hide it but to pile up a large mound of dirt on top of it.”

Even said Syrian authorities might have taken similar cleanup action if the site had held chemical or biological weapons, but it would not have made sense for Israel to have taken the military and diplomatic risk of attacking such a facility, long a known part of Syria’s arsenal.

“We know already that the Syrians have in place armed missiles with chemical weapons,” he said. “They are already well-equipped in that department.”

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1195546701923&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


58 posted on 11/27/2007 1:59:20 AM PST by dervish (Pray for the peace of an UNDIVIDED JEWISH Jerusalem)
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To: iThinkBig

John Bolton raised the alarm in 2003 but was shot down.

“The progress of the site in late 2003 also raises new questions about a disagreement at the time between intelligence analysts and John R. Bolton, then the State Department’s top arms control official.

In the summer of 2003, Mr. Bolton’s testimony on Capitol Hill was delayed after a dispute erupted in part over whether Syria was actively pursuing a nuclear weapon. Some intelligence officials said Mr. Bolton overstated the Syrian threat.

“There was disagreement about what Syria was interested in and how much we should be monitoring it,” Mr. Bolton said in an interview yesterday. “There was activity in Syria that I felt was evidence that they were trying to develop a nuclear program.”

http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2007/10/ny-times-faults-bush-on-syrian-nuke.html (NYT article)


59 posted on 11/27/2007 2:04:10 AM PST by dervish (Pray for the peace of an UNDIVIDED JEWISH Jerusalem)
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To: iThinkBig
If you're talking implosion-style atomic warheads, probably none in Syria or Iran right now because 1) Syria probably lost its stockpile of plutonium from the attack and 2) Iran has yet to demonstrate it can manufacture plutonium (we know about Iran's Uranium-235 processing facilities).
60 posted on 11/27/2007 3:57:50 AM PST by RayChuang88
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