Posted on 11/24/2007 10:43:35 AM PST by blam
Expert sceptical of sacred Roman cave
By Silvia Aloisi in Rome
November 24, 2007
A LEADING Italian archaeologist said that the grotto whose discovery was announced this week in Rome is not the sacred cave linked to the myth of the city's foundation by Romulus and Remus.
The Culture Ministry and experts who presented the find said they were “reasonably certain” the cavern is the Lupercale - a sanctuary worshipped for centuries by Romans because, according to legend, a wolf nursed the twin brothers there.
But Adriano La Regina, Rome's superintendent of archaeology from 1976 to 2004, said ancient descriptions of the place suggest the Lupercale is elsewhere - 50 to 70 metres northwest of the cave discovered near Emperor Augustus' palace.
“I am positive this is not the Lupercale,” Mr La Regina told Reuters in an interview.
Instead, he believes the cave - which ministry pictures show is decorated with well-preserved seashells and coloured mosaics - was a room in Nero's first palace on the Palatine Hill, which burnt down in 64 AD in the great fire of Rome.
The Culture Ministry had no immediate comment on the statements from Mr La Regina, who pointed to a description of the Lupercale given by Greek historian Dionysius of Halicarnassus in his major work on early Roman history, Roman Antiquities.
Dionysius said the Lupercale, which draws its name from the Latin word for wolf, was close to the Temple of Victory, also on the Palatine Hill, while the cave unveiled this week was found near the Temple of Apollo.
“If this were the Lupercale, Dionysius would have surely mentioned the Temple of Apollo, which was much bigger and more famous than the Temple of Victory,” said Mr La Regina.
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GGG Ping.
Kamala and Amala
http://bowland-files.lancs.ac.uk/chimp/langac/LECTURE4/4kamala.htm
The “wolf children” Kamala and Amala, as they came to be known, were discovered by Reverend J.A.L Singh in 1920 in a jungle in India. They had been living with a family of wolves, and were found in a cave: “The two cubs and the other two hideous beings were in one corner, all four clutching together in a monkey-call. The ghosts were more ferocious than the cubs, making faces, showing teeth...We were at a loss and didn’t know what to do.” Reverend Singh took charge of the two girls and brought them to his orphange. The older, Kamala was about eight, and the younger, Amala about one and a half. Singh kept a diary of their progress e.g. “January 29th 1921: the other children tried their utmost to allure them to play with them, but this they resented very much, and would frighten them by opening their jaws, showing their teeth, and at times making for them with a peculiar harsh noise.” In September 1921, both girls became ill with diarrhoea and dysentery. Then round worms appeared from their bodies. Amala died. Kamala would not leave her sister’s body and had to be removed from the coffin. After Amala’s death, Mrs Singh tried to help Kamala to use her body in humans ways, to stand, walk and run, this was achieved with some success.
After five years in the orphange, Kamala was able to talk: she refused to go outside without being dressed, having complained with the sound “Fok” (possibly meaning “frock”) and her vocabulary was thought to consist of about 30 words. These words were not common to English speech, but were sounds. When food was offered she used “Hoo” to indicate “yes”, although other children use this word to mean “cold”. “Ha” means “yes” in Bengali. She was able to name objects, but never used her words spontaneously. Two years later, she had learned more words, but apart from that there was no other mental change. In 1929 Kamala became ill again and died.
You make a mighty big assumption there bucko....
“Any word yet on the cave where the “she wolf” Hillary was suckled?”
In the nether regions of Tartarus.
Could be related to my neighbor whose vocabularly is about 30 words including this 'Fok'.
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Uh-oh, I don’t think I can take Andy at this time. I got a cheap DVD of a 1970s stage show he did in London, and it’s got interview footage edited in. It’s actually quite well done, but I just can’t take the genre. For one thing, someone left the cake out in the rain... ;’) [rimshot!]
Even the need for fresh air ceases to be a need for the worker. Man reverts once more to living in a cave, but the cave is now polluted by the mephitic and pestilential breath of civilization. Moreover, the worker … actually has to pay for this mortuary. A dwelling in the light, which Prometheus describes in Aeschylus as one of the great gifts through which he transformed savages into men, ceases to exist for the worker. Light, air, etc. — the simplest animal cleanliness — ceases to be a need for man. Dirt — this pollution and putrefaction of man, the sewage (this word is to be understood in its literal sense) of civilization — becomes an element of life for him.—Karl Marx, Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844
This led to the naming of a fairly well known rock song, "Purple-Prose Rain".
Yeah, cause he didn’t find it.
:’D Yeah, exactly. ;’)
—Karl Marx, Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844
ramblings of a necrophiliac?
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