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44 Years After JFK's Death, New Assassination Plot Revealed
ABC News ^ | November 22, 2007 | Chuck Goudie

Posted on 11/22/2007 1:21:57 PM PST by Wallaby

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To: cmsgop
"...No it was Halliburton,everybody knows that..."

Sorry, but it was an accidental discharge by an officer protecting the President.

21 posted on 11/22/2007 1:57:22 PM PST by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: South40

Shobuds and Fenders for me. I like old ones.


22 posted on 11/22/2007 1:57:52 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: stboz

“Jack Ruby was born in 1911. His real name being
Jacob Rubenstein. His parents were Polish immigrants, and he grew up in Chicago. As a boy, he ran errands for Al Capone. In 1937-39, Jack Ruby was a “union organizer” and “secretary” for a local branch of the Scrap Iron and Junk Handlers Union in Chicago. During World War II, Jack Ruby served in the U.S. Air Force. After a business venture with his brothers fell through, he left Chicago and moved to Dallas, where he opened up his first nightclub that he named the Silver Spur. In 1957-58, he was running guns to the followers of Fidel Castro, who were fighting to overthrow Batista. In 1959, Jack Ruby went to Havana to try to gain the release of Santos Trafficante, who had been jailed by Castro’s government for his role in Mafia gambling and narcotics activities. Trafficante later participated in a CIA plot to kill Castro. During the early 1960s, Jack Ruby helped supply arms to the anti-Castro Cubans. During the 1950s-1963, he ran several nightclubs.
At the time of President Kennedy’s assassination, he lived in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas. On Nov. 24, 1963, Jack Ruby fatally shot Lee Harvey Oswald
once in the abdomen, in the basement of Dallas police headquarters, where he was being transferred to the County Jail. The incident occurred on live television. Ruby had walked down a car ramp to get to the basement, even though the narrow entrance to the car ramp was guarded by a police officer. Oswald died at Parkland Hospital, as doctors tried to save him. In 1964, Jack Ruby was brought to trial for the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald. In that same year, he was convicted and sentenced to death. In 1966, the judgment of death was reversed by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, and he was granted a second trial. On January 3, 1967, Jack Ruby died from the effects of galloping lung cancer before his second trial could begin. He claimed that he had been injected with cancer.”


23 posted on 11/22/2007 1:58:07 PM PST by spanalot
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To: Bommer
Read Gerald Posners 'Case Closed'

Looks like you swallowed that one.

24 posted on 11/22/2007 2:01:15 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Wallaby

When you have multiple involved persons (I am not referring to those in this article, though it is interesting) in the investigation which followed, or medical aspects/corpse handling, stating on camera that the official version is factually inaccurate in any number of ways and describing how things were from their viewpoint/experience, you pretty much have the definition of how a successful conspiracy by the government would look.


25 posted on 11/22/2007 2:03:04 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Jack Hammer

I happen to know for a fact that a dissident group of aliens from the planet Alpha Centauri 4, in league with immortals from Peru who, several centuries ago, travelled here in prehistoric space craft, put out a contract on the president utilizing signals written in the form of crop circles. That contract was fulfilled by Freemasons, who had predicted the whole thing in a document referenced in the works of Leonardo DaVinci and subsequently printed in invisible ink on the back of the Declaration of Independence. The reason I know this is that the aliens told me themselves, in broadcasts which I receive via the fillings in my teeth. It fulfilled a prophecy made ages ago in the very secret Gospel of Melvin, which was found in Qumran, but which has been suppressed by a covert organization composed of the descendents of King Arthur - who feel that the information it contains is too controversial for Mankind until after the Great Transformation of human nature due in the year 2052, after which all will be revealed.

man that has to be true!


26 posted on 11/22/2007 2:04:06 PM PST by jrd
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To: kjo
I believe this comes very close as far as my research goes.

To elaborate, search the book called ‘Regicide’ on amazon.

It explains further, the plot had about 20 conspirators in the govt, very similar to the plot to kill FDR documented in the 30’s mainstream media. Info is supplied from a conference record made to communicate with the conspirators

JFK and his brother had also created a ‘backdoor’ communication to Khrushchev and it was thought of as ‘treasonous’.

The name of the JFK plot was ‘Operation Zipper’

James files makes alot of sense too, retired agents suggested contacting him to investigaters to learn more about the assassination.

***You can find this out by searching the shelves at Barnes and Nobel: three shooters were Roselli, Nicoletti, and Sutton/aka/Files. LBJ and Hoover were deeply involved, so were some in the CIA.

JFK was living, by the standards of the cultural fifties, a reckless life; drugs, women, and paying off blackmail. Some in the press knew it but would not publish. In the end he was removed as a security matter. That’s the way Johnson and Hoover sold it.

And that’s the truth.***

27 posted on 11/22/2007 2:05:59 PM PST by msnpatriot
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To: jrd

“Barney Ross: A Friend for Life

16.12.03 - By Keith Terceira: He was born in the Lower East Side of New York, December 23 1909, Barnet David Rasofsky. Barnet would grow up in Chicago, dreaming of being a Talmudic Scholar and Hebrew teacher. Those dreams would come crashing down, when at age 14, two men shot and killed his father, while robbing the Rasofsky’s family store. That event would ultimately link Barnet with elements in the underworld that would haunt him throughout his life. As was the norm for many Jewish fighters at the time Barnet took another name, Barney Ross, so he could hide his boxing from family and to get more fights. He would also use the name Barney Rasof at times during his life.

Barney’s mother, distressed and depressed by her husbands death , would suffer a nervous breakdown forcing the family to be divided, sending Barney and brother Morrie to live with family , his three younger siblings into an orphanage. At this time Barney angry at a god that could allow this to happen turned to the streets. It was in these streets that he would join first the Miller, then the Capone crime family. It was at this time that he would befriend one Jack “Sparky” Rubenstein.

Sparky and Barney had common interests and common problems. Both men’s mothers had suffered breakdowns, both needed to survive the harsh world of Gangland Chicago. Jack had been through the foster system with his siblings after the split of his parents, same as Barney’s siblings. Barney needed funds to reunite the family and support them. Both Sparky and Barney would run errands for Al Capone.

Al’s brothers, Ralph and Matty Capone, Frank Nitty, Murray Humphries, “Tough Tony” Capezio, and “Machine Gun Sam” Hunt were close followers of Ross’s often sponsoring his amateur career and present while a pro. Ross also said in an interview that Sparky to “was almost always present when he fought both as an amateur and as a professional “ When Ross began his career he trained at the Kit Howard Gym in the loop area of Chicago. Al Capone would often purchase all the tickets for the gym, giving them away to the fans that supported Ross. The gym had 125 seats at a cost of a quarter a piece. Big money during that time.

Sparky followed all Barney’s fights even his out of town championship bouts. “The Pride of the Ghetto” Ross would start his pro career in 1929, winning his first title against Tony Canzoneri in Chicago in 1933. In total he would earn three belts in three classes. In his last fight, he lost to another Hall of Fame fighter Henry Armstrong In 1938. In 1934, Ring voted him the Fighter of the Year. When fighting in California, Sparky and Barney would often get together according to Jack’s sister Eva and brother Hyman.

In 1942, when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, and at the age of 33, Barney and Sparky parted company when Ross joined the Marines. During his participation in the Invasion of Guadalcanal Ross would receive wounds that would pain him for life. While on patrol, November 20, 1942 he and his attachment ran into an advance party of Japanese, while most of his patrol was wounded Ross attacked alone, for 12 hours. Using up his own ammunition he fought with ammo left from the wounded. For this act, he was awarded a Silver Star, Purple Heart, and a Presidential Citation. He also was among 3200, First Marines to suffer from malaria on Guadalcanal, his fevers nursed by Chaplin Frederic Gehring, forever known as the “Padre of Guadalcanal”. Nine days after the attack on Ross, General Vandegrift would receive orders to send the 1st Marine Division to Australia for rehabilitation.

Father Gehring passed away in April of 1998 at age 95. A lifetime friend of Barney’s after their meeting in Guadalcanal, Father Gerhring often retold the tale of Christmas Day 1942. The Christmas Mass that Father Gehring said in a rain of shells from the Japanese to a group of soldiers. Before an altar and cross made of Shell casings, a man played a little reed organ doing Christmas carols, he was an Orthodox Jew named Barney Ross. Father Gehring would recall “At the end of the Mass, Barney said I’m going to play something for your mother and my mother, wondering where we are tonight, “My Yiddishe Mama” Everybody was nearly in tears” At sometime, Barney had made his piece with his God and during his tour in the Pacific, he would celebrate the Seder doing Pessah broadcasts over the armed-forces radio frequencies.

During his evacuation for treatment of his wounds he was treated with morphine, over zealous medics hoping to ease his hurt ultimately would cause his addiction. Ross would eventually need drug treatment and entered a hospital. Whether Sparky or the crime families of Chicago provided drugs for a habit of over five hundred dollars a week we don’t have concrete information. But Ross kicked the habit, even though Hollywood would insult him in creating the movie “Monkey on My Back”. Though Ross filed suit for much more, he settled for $10,000.

Ross reportedly attempted to provide arms in 1948 to Israel, as the state struggled with Egypt over a Jewish homeland. We don’t know if he was successful it is reported he was not, or if Sparky was involved in making the connections for the arms Ross was trying to find. Years later, guns and arms would be part of both their lives. In February 1944 , Sparky would earn a sharpshooters rating for his firing of an M1 .30 caliber carbine. After attaining the rank of PFC and receiving a good conduct medal Sparky was honorably discharged from the service.

Ross would state in later years the Sparky idolized him, and that he was “well behaved”, never a troublemaker, and would avoid clashes if at all possible. Sparky was tough and often had sparred with Ross. Others report that Jack had a lightning like temper which may have been where he got the nickname Sparky. Sister Eva thought the nickname came from a comic strip of a slow moving horse named “Sparkplug”. They would hang together as adults in the Lawndale Restaurant and Pool hall. Sparky later moved to Dallas, and Barney to New York where he worked at Milton Blackstone Advertising Agency. Over 10-12 years while Sparky was in Dallas, they talked often by phone.

What many boxing historians leave out is that Barney’s friend, Jack “Sparky” Rubenstein, was none other than Jack Ruby.

Barney Ross underwent several interviews with the FBI, testified to the Warren Commission, and even appeared as a character witness for Jack Ruby. Anyone who reads the FBI interviews will see that though Jack and Barney were friends, Ross attempted to distance himself from his friendship but could not abandon Jack in the end. To the extent that he did not come totally clean to the FBI about their relationship in his first statement to agents. While Ruby was suspected of being involved in the running of guns to Cuba. Ross was suspected in the late forties and early fifties of trying to run arms to Israel.

Ross tells the FBI in his statements on June 4, 1964 that even though he stated in his autobiography that he worked for Al Capone, he never really worked for Capone. Later in the testimony he contradicts himself stating that he was given envelopes to deliver by Capone for money. Others who ran such errands were Jack Ruby, Ira Colits and Lou Koppel. Barney believed that the envelopes were empty, a way for Capone to give them money while making them think they were working for it. Usually, the pay was a dollar.

Both Barney Ross and Jack Ruby suffered from and died of Cancer. Ruby died in jail, incarcerated while awaiting his retrial for the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald. Both gentlemen are buried in Chicago. Barney Ross was a legend in the Ring, a survivor of the streets of Chicago,, drug addiction, malaria, The Fightingest Marine on Guadalcanal, a hero in the struggle for a Jewish State, and despite all of the publicity surrounding the assassination of both Kennedy and Oswald a friend of Ruby’s for life. No movie script compares to his life. From Capone to Guadalcanal to Jack Ruby this man endured and overcame.

Forty years have passed since JFK was laid to rest, and in researching this article a eerie coincidence was discovered. One of the survivors of the sinking of PT-109, John F Kennedy’s ship was a lieutenant by the name of Barney Ross. “


28 posted on 11/22/2007 2:07:51 PM PST by spanalot
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To: South40

No, it was Jimmy James. (I thought everyone knew that)


29 posted on 11/22/2007 2:11:02 PM PST by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: kjo

I certainly going to believe, you!


30 posted on 11/22/2007 2:11:27 PM PST by em2vn
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To: Wallaby

ROBERT “TOSH” PLUMLEE DECLARATION
11/21/2004

For a collection of documents on Tosh Plumlee click here
The following statements contained within this paper, are my personal story. Anything in previous publications is subject to question and is or has not been, reviewed, approved, or authorized, by me. My purpose in producing this unadulterated information and statement is to clarify previous errors of fact, which have been attributed to me. Therefore, this statement supersedes all previous versions of what others have claimed, speculated, or produced in media and print form, as being my true testimony and story.

Any reproduction of this article, in whole or in part, without written permission from the author is prohibited, and will be considered as a copyright violation and subject to the penalties provided by law.

I hereby declare the following to be true and correct to the best of my knowledge.

Dated this 21st day of November 2004.

Part 1: Background Information

My name is William Robert Plumlee, also known as ‘Tosh” I am a retired commercial pilot and have worked for and with the United States Government for many years. My background follows:

I was enlisted and assigned to military specialized operations at Fort Bliss, Texas in April of 1954.(RA18389060; Recon Training Command, RTC-D8) I was associated with various Military Intelligence units of the Fourth Army based at Fort Bliss, Texas, and also the Fourth Army Reserve, located at Dallas Love Field, Dallas Texas. This service period was in the early to mid fifties and into the early sixties.

Approximately 1962 through 1963, I was assigned to Task Force W Section- C-7 tab B and D during the Cuban Project which operated at the time from the JM/WAVE station attached to Miami, Florida’s ‘Cuba Desk’ of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). I operated as a contract “Undercover pilot” and also, at times, I was assigned to specialized Cuban operations of the CIA’s “Covert Action Group” (CAG) I was engaged in many secret operations through out the early sixties.

Some years later, after brief retirement, known as ‘The Farm’. I reactivated myself and became attached as an undercover operative and contract pilot for the federal government during President Reagan’s “Drug War”. I was attached to a secret team known as ‘America-Mexico Special Operations Group’ (”AMSOG”), HQ’ed Panama Southern Command. I was also a pilot and associated with the Contra Resupply Network.

I have testified four times in close door session, to various Senate and congressional investigative committees (Director FBI 1964; J Hoover; Senator Church, 1976-75; closed-door testimony, classified TS; to Congressmen Tom Downing’s investigators, before the HSCA was formed; to Senator John Kerry’s Committee of 1988-91 also classified “ “TS Committee Sensitive” and the “Tri-State Drug Task Force”, (Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico) chaired by Arizona Governor, Bruce Babbit. The cover operation contact cut out was the Phoenix Organized Crime Div. Phoenix AZ,1975-86. I worked with Senator Gary Hart and his security adviser Bill Holden, on previous intelligence matters with the NSC and the drug war with Colombia and Costa Rica. I worked UC operations with KiKi Camarena and his pilot, before they were murdered and I was a Military/DEA contract pilot, attached to Panama and Colombia, Costa Rica Investigative Task Force on Narcotics.

I have a secret classified file as defined within the National Security statutes under the name of William Robert (Tosh) Plumlee aka William H “Buck” Pearson code named “Zapata”, Miami Cuba Desk, 1960-63 MI/CIA OMC-TFW7; Section C (locate Tab B & D) classified information; portions declassified Aug 1998. Associated with Operation 40 connected to the NSC and the “White House Situations Rooms briefings. I was a contract operative for the CIA, associated with Tracy Barns, Wild Bill Harvey, Frank Bender, John Martino and many others.

I have limited this paper to one particular mission that I was assigned to on November 20, 1963. I was a covert ‘contract’ military Intel pilot on civilian status for this secret operation. I have titled this work as: “The Flight To Dallas; A Pilots Memoirs”. I have certified this copy as a declaration and personal testimony; a true account of my activities between November 20 through November 22, 1963

***

Part 2: Flight to Dallas - November 20-22, 1963

Beginning November 20, 1963, I was assigned to be a co-pilot on a top secret flight, which was attached to a Military Intelligence unit and supported by the CIA. Our mission, we were told, was to ‘Abort’ a pending attempt on the President’s life which was to take place in Dallas. We were contracted as “cut-outs” a system used to shield a secret operation from public exposure. Our team was based out of South Florida. My pilot for this operation was Emanuel Rojas. We had flown together before. I was the co-pilot for this operation. The first leg of the flight would be from Lantana, Florida ( about five miles south of West Palm Beach) to Tampa Florida. The aircraft used for the first phase of this trip was a D-18 Twin Beach aircraft. We took-off before day break on November 21, 1963 expecting to arrive in Tampa about sunup. We were to pick up other personal at Tampa. One of these people was John Roselli, whom I knew.

I had known John Roselli before this flight. I had flown Roselli and others to places like Cuba, Bimini, Galveston Texas, Las Vegas and California. He was also known to me as”Colonel Rawlston” or just “the Colonel”. We (Rojas and I) were to pick up ‘the Colonel’ at Tampa’s Congress Inn that morning. We changed aircraft at Tampa to a waiting DC-3 that was registered to ‘Atlantic Richfield’, and continued our trip to New Orleans, where a couple of people, who I did not know, got off and a few others got on. The Colonel stayed on board the DC-3. We continued our trip leaving New Orleans and continuing to Houston International Airport where we spent the night at the Shamrock Hilton, not far from the airport. We parked the aircraft on the Trans Texas side of the airport not far from the Texas Air National Guard and their AT6 type aircraft.

The next morning, November 22,1963, about 4:30-5 a.m., our weather briefing was not favorable for a VFR flight into Dallas’s Red Bird airport. We selected Garland as an alternate in case the weather had not improved by the time we arrived near Dallas air space. We did not file a flight plan nor intended to file IFR. This would have left a record of our flight with air traffic control. We continued to Garland,in northeast Dallas instead of Redbird Airport in Oak Cliff, a suburb of Dallas. We made this decision because of possible bad weather southwest of Dallas that had not cleared as yet.

We arrived in Garland near daybreak. There had been so many threats against the President’s life that we didn’t have a great sense of urgency about this particular one. While waiting out the bad weather in Garland, and about thirty minutes after landing three of the passengers were picked up by car, including Roselli. (There are three documented corroborations of my presence at Garland airport that morning). After the weather had cleared sufficiently for the plane to continue via VFR flight rules to Redbird Airport in Dallas, we left Garland for the ten minute flight to Red Bird. We landed at Redbird around 9:30 or 10:30 a.m., perhaps as late as 11 a.m. where everybody got off and went their own way.

It was my impression at that time that I was flying an abort team into Dallas, comprised of John Roselli, a couple of Cubans and some people that I surmised were connected with organized crime in New Orleans. The CIA’s specific information about the assassination, which their field personnel had obtained from Texas informants and international sources, was past to Military Intel units attached to the Pentagon. Some of this information, I had been told, came from the interrogations of Two Cubans who had plotted to fire on Air Force One with a bazooka on November 17 in West Palm Beach, Florida.

The pre-mission briefing was held at Loxahatchee, Florida on the evening of November 20th, but since I was not “field operational” at that time, except as a ‘contract pilot’, I was not directly addressed at the briefing, other than routing and weather reports pertaining to flying the team into position. There would be no formal flight plans filed and the routing would be conducted under VFR (Visual Flight Rules) I only began to learn the full scope of the operation from my pilot Rojas and a field operative friend of mine named Sergio. Most of the details of this operation were told to me only after we had become airborne. I would learn more operational details upon reaching Redbird Airport.

I learned that it had been discussed by the abort team where to go, how to abort, and what to look for. I had not at first paid much attention to any of these details as bits and pieces unfolded. I was told that the abort team, for whom I was only the pilot at that time, would probably be looking for a minimum of 19 or 20 people that would be in the Plaza. Most of the team members felt that this was another false alarm, there had been many during the past few weeks. The detailed instructions to the team had come from Robert Bennett and Rex Beardsley, as well as another case office whose name I can not recall.

Although my specific assigned function was only a pilot. Upon arriving at Redbird Airport, Sergio asked me if I wanted to come along and see the President. I could also act as a spotter for him and his team, which, he said, were assigned to the south side of the plaza. I was told other members of the team would be patrolling the north side and the overpass. I understood we would be looking for a type of triangulation ambush. I gladly accepted Sergio’s offer. It seemed like an adventure I didn’t want to miss. We were driven from Red Bird Airport to a place not far from the Oak Cliff Country Club, then driven to Dealey Plaza, where we (Sergio and I) checked various areas and attempted to spot potential members of an attack team from the position on the South Knoll. The original information the team had received from sources in Texas and the CIA was an attempt was going to be made outside the Adolphus Hotel, but for reasons unknown to them, I was told ,the routing of the motorcade had been changed at the last minute to Dealey Plaza.

While on the south knoll, Sergio and I were attempting to evaluate the most logical places where shooters might be located, but everything was confused, the timing was off, team members were late getting into position. They were not where they were supposed to be and the limited radio contacts that we had with them were not working, or spotty at best. It was soon after our arrival that the motorcade arrived. When the shots rang out, I had the impression of 4 or 5 shots, with one being fired from behind and to my left on the South Knoll, near the underpass and south parking lot. While leaving via the south side of the underpass near the train tracks, Sergio and I smelled gunpowder. I never saw Roselli in Dealey Plaza that day.

We were picked up on the back side of the underpass, southwest side, by a person who had previously been at the Country Club. After driving away, and on the way back to Red Bird we stopped in the parking lot of Ed McLemore’s Sportatorium, where Sergio changed out of the clothes he had muddied when he fell down the slippery west side of the railroad tracks. We stopped by the place in Oak Cliff, then returned to Redbird Airport. We waited for a few of the operatives who had been on our flight into Dallas to return. We waited as long as we could before departing without Roselli and some of the others. At approximately 2 o’clock in the afternoon, we took off from Red Bird without filing a flight plan. Our original flight out of Dallas called for us to fly to Shepard Air Force Base in Wichita Falls, Texas. But because of the assassination that routing was changed at the last minute by Rojas. We would head for Houston and back to south Florida.

On the plane, besides myself, were Rojas, Sergio, a person who I knew as Gator from the Loxahatchee camp, and two other individuals that I didn’t know. Gator had identifying characteristics of an unusually large Adam’s Apple and a missing finger, which had supposedly been bitten off at an alligator farm.

The people on the flight out of Dallas were very quiet. I interpreted their silence as dejection at the mission’s failure to abort the assassination of the President. I believed that if these men had been the shooters or assassins themselves, they would have been very excited because they had carried it off. That’s why to this day I take issue with the idea, which I have been asked to speculate on many times, that the attack on the President was in behalf of the CIA, Mafia, or Military Intelligence, and I had unknowingly flown an attack team in which had assassinated the President.

Part 3 - Conclusion

When I later learned that Oswald had been arrested as the lone assassin, I remembered having met him on a number of previous occasions which were connected with intelligence training matters, first at Illusionary Warfare Training in Nagshead, North Carolina, then in Honolulu at a radar installation and at Oahu’s Wheeler Air Force Base, then in Dallas at an Oak Cliff safe house on North Beckley Street run by Alpha 66’s Hernandez group, who had worked out of Miami prior to the assassination.

The post-mission debriefing was held on November 25th, my birthday, in West Palm Beach by Rex Beardsley, Bob Bennett and, I believe, Tracy Barnes. There was some discomfort or unhappiness about my having been present in the Plaza without authorization. Sergio was reprimanded for taking me along as a ‘spotter’. The report was transmitted to field headquarters Miami to JM/WAVE Headquarters, and the CIA’s Miami Cuban Desk.

I regret that prior to the production of this narrative, the context and substance of my story has been changed and/or misstated by others to suit their own purposes. When I have spoken on tape, I have been asked to speculate on certain facts which were inaccurately produced as my own factual assertions. One of the most significant problems has been that my story has been tailored and changed to support the claims of others, about whom I knew nothing.

I certify this declaration to be true and correct to the best of my knowledge.

Dated this 21st day of November, 2004

William Robert “Tosh” Plumlee, aka William H.”Buck” Pearson.

***

Notes Regarding References:

Certified military Records can be found on William R. Plumlee at the Texas Adjutant General, State of Texas, Headquarters,Texas National Guard; also at the archived files of the Fourth Army Reserve and Fifth Army, located at Camp Mabry, Austin Texas.

The following is a brief summary of these records:

Enlistment Record of William Robert Plumlee:

Texas National Guard 49th, Armored Division; United States Army, Fourth Army HDQ, Fort Bliss Texas; Fourth Army Reserve, Dallas Love Field, Dallas, Texas.

Recap of documents found at the Texas Adjutant General, Camp Mabry, Austin Texas:

William Robert Plumlee S/N RA- 18389060; 9th of Feb 1955; grade CPL; Auth for grade 25-1; enlisted under authority of (NGR25-1) For service in NGS Texas; Company C 156Tk Bn. Fourth Army Reserve; DoB 11 25 37; Civil Trade or Occupation: Aircraft Mechanic, Southwest Airmotive, Dallas Love Field, Dallas, Texas.

Enlistment Records:

22Oct52 thu 8th Feb53 NG Enl s/n25926077 Pvt disc. HonMin; Disc. 8Feb53; re enl.

28th Sept53 thu 2Mar54USAR 4th Army; 18389060 Grade at disc.USAR, CPL.

3Mar54 thu 2Jul USA s/n18389060 rank CPL; United States Army (USA) Ft Bliss Texas assn. temp dty (unknown).

6Jul54-No Record of Disc. tnsf. Texas 4th Army Res, Dallas Love Field, Dallas Texas. Co C156Tk Bn.CO Capt. assn ‘Specialized operations, Intel: Commanding officers; Capt. Gilbert B Cook; Texas National Guard: 2ndLt. Charles R Brannon, Arty; Ft. Bliss, Texas, (RTC); Capt. Edward G Seiwell, Fourth Army Reserves, Dallas, Texas; MOS: WR Plumlee 1795, 3795 Tank Crew man Tk Commander, Sherman Tank. Cpl. Plumlee USA MOS ‘Unknown’; Unknown sta. Ft. Bliss, Texas; Fort Hood,Texas, National Guard; Unknown.

Office of Origin (OO) Records at Office of Adjutant General State of Texas Camp Mabry, Texas.

Texas National Guard; Texas Fourth Army Reserve; Certified Copy of Available Documents By; XXX referenced doc loc. “on file”.

Medical reports: Personnel Records Center, St Louis, MO.

NOTE: For anyone interesting in taking the time to open up the following links I think you will find the information more that interesting in reference as to how J.Edgar Hoover obstructed Justice in withholding inportant files from investigative committees:

There are two different sets of FBI files on William Robert Plumlee. One set was released to the HSCA; 1978, while the other (Plumlee/Rosellie; 62-2116 file) was not declassified until 1997. A careful review of these pages will show how J Hoover withheld information contained within FBI files from the HSCA as well as other investigative committees:

NOTE: THE FOLLOWING REFERENCED FBI FILES HAVE BEEN REMOVED. (DECEMBER 1, 2004) AFTER I WAS ADVISED THAT WITHIN THOSE RELEASED FOIA FBI PAGES CONTAINED MATTERS WHICH ARE STILL CLASSIFIED “TOP SECRET COMMITTEE SENSITIVE”, AS RECLASSIFIED ON AUGUST 12, 1991. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS AT THE TIME SOME OF THESE PAGES WERE POSTED BY ME ON THIS FORUM. I WILL REVIEW THESE PAGES AND REPOST THE REFERENCES THAT ARE CONSIDERED NOT TO “COMPROMISE” PROCEDURES AND METHODS

For a complete interview (27 pages) with Tosh Plumlee, see the book: Files on JFK


31 posted on 11/22/2007 2:14:42 PM PST by Lexington Green (Not one dime to Hollywood traitors)
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To: Wallaby

Kennedy from the future shot himself from the grassy knoll. I lnow it’s true, I saw it on Red Dwarf.


32 posted on 11/22/2007 2:18:06 PM PST by Wacka
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To: kjo
JFK was ... paying off blackmail.

Actually, it was his Nazi loving father that paid people off.

$50K to Henry Luce, the publisher of Time Magazine, not to reveal in print that JFK had had a Soviet spy as a mistress, $10M to Jacqueline to continue to put up with JFK's affairs, and not divorce him, etc....

33 posted on 11/22/2007 2:19:31 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: PAR35

Also read ‘Case Open’ by Harold Weisberg

http://www.amazon.com/Case-Open-Unanswered-Assassination-Questions/dp/078670098X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195769982&sr=1-1

***Read Gerald Posners ‘Case Closed’
Looks like you swallowed that one.***


34 posted on 11/22/2007 2:23:04 PM PST by msnpatriot
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To: Wallaby

35 posted on 11/22/2007 2:23:52 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: PAR35
Yeah I swallowed it. Only problem is Posner proved all his points with the Zepruder film! Connelly was in the jump seat of the limo, not directly in front of Kennedy, but seated in front and to JFK's left and 3 inches lower. The trajectory wounds line up perfectly so there was no "Magic bullet. All the wounds were through soft tissue (not shattering bone) and on the History Channel they proved that a bullet shot in the same manner, through pig cadaver's was not only done but the bullet shown virtually undamaged! If facts instead of tin foil stupidity by pseudo experts, their case crumbles. Vincent Bugilosi also backed up Posners claims in Reclaiming History!
36 posted on 11/22/2007 2:28:14 PM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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To: South40

Thank you, Dallas! Goodnight!!!!


37 posted on 11/22/2007 2:30:54 PM PST by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
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To: jrd

The full story is etched on stone tablets hidden in a secret chamber thirty feet beneath the Sphinx and left there by an early Egyptian time traveller who recognized the potentially disruptive nature of the various conundrums posed by time travel, settled on a farm in Mississippi in the 1930’s, changed his name to Earl, destroyed his time machine, and spent the remainder of his life raising okra. Fact!


38 posted on 11/22/2007 2:32:56 PM PST by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: Jack Hammer

Oh, man, I dated a guy from Alpha Centauri when I was in college. But, ummm, it was in Dallas. However, Kennedy was already dead by 5 years. They *said.*


39 posted on 11/22/2007 2:36:27 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Jack Hammer
ALERT! This one can see!


40 posted on 11/22/2007 2:37:25 PM PST by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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