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Clinton takes shot at Obama's experience — then he gets sarcastic
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | November 19, 2007 | A.P.

Posted on 11/19/2007 7:26:08 PM PST by Graybeard58

KNOXVILLE, Iowa — The economy needs help and fast, Hillary Rodham Clinton declared Monday, claiming the experience for the job and saying the nation can’t afford to break in a newcomer.

In speech that kicked off a two day campaign swing through Iowa, the New York senator painted a bleak picture of a U.S. economy battered by home foreclosures, rising oil prices and lack of good jobs for middle class workers.

The former first lady compared the situation to 1992, when her husband ran against the first President Bush.

‘‘There seems to be a pattern here. It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush,’’ she said to applause.

Without mentioning names, she suggested Democratic rival Barack Obama — less than three years into his first term in the Senate — and other candidates lack the experience necessary to address the nation’s myriad fiscal challenges.

‘‘There is one job we can’t afford on-the-job training for — our next president. That could be the costliest job training in history,’’ Clinton said. ‘‘Every day spent learning the ropes is another day of rising costs, mounting deficits and growing anxiety for our families. And they cannot afford to keep waiting.’’

In Iowa, Obama was asked about Clinton’s comments and offered a sharp response.

‘‘My understanding is she wasn’t Treasury secretary in the Clinton administration. I don’t know exactly what experience she’s claiming,’’ he said. ‘‘Rather than just assert experience, if she has specific differences with me in regard to economic policy then let’s have that debate.’’

The former first lady, speaking in a community gymnasium, outlined steps she said she would take to stem the housing crisis and help consumers in cold-weather states pay to heat their homes. Among other things, she said she would create a $1 billion fund for states to help homeowners who risk foreclosure.

She also addressed global challenges to the economy, including funds controlled by foreign governments to invest in U.S. stocks, real estate and businesses. She called for greater transparency for such funds, which are currently not required to disclose their assets or investment returns.

While she directed much of her criticism at the Bush administration and GOP presidential candidates, the subtext of Clinton’s speech was clear: She has more detailed understanding of U.S. economic woes than her rivals.

She is seeking to reinforce that message after several days in which both Obama and John Edwards stepped up their criticism of her past support for the North American Free Trade Agreement and other pacts that labor leaders have said were responsible for sending thousands of jobs out of the country.

Polls show Clinton locked in a tight race with Obama and Edwards in Iowa just over six weeks before the state holds its caucuses Jan. 3. A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows Obama with 30 percent support among likely Democratic caucus-goers and Clinton with 26 percent and Edwards with 22 percent. The poll showed that about half of Clinton supporters said they had not attended a caucus before; 43 percent of Obama supporters said this would be their first caucus. The finding is significant because voters considered the most reliable caucus participants are those who have caucused before.

Clinton, in her speech, also tackled the issue of Social security.

In recent weeks, Clinton and Obama have traded barbs over the retirement program for seniors, which is forecast to run out of money around 2041 Presently, the first $97,500 in individual income is subject to the Social Security tax — a level Obama has said must be increased in order to keep the program solvent.

Clinton has refused to say what she would do as president to preserve Social Security but has insisted such a tax increase would place an undue burden on middle class families.

She reiterated that point Monday, even suggesting that Social Security is not under imminent threat.

‘‘We don’t need more Republican scare tactics about a ’Social Security crisis,’’’ Clinton said. ‘‘And we don’t need a trillion-dollar tax increase that will hit families already facing higher energy, health care and college costs. What we need is to focus on the real crises of health care and Medicare, and on expanding opportunities for poor, working and middle class families who are struggling now.’’

Clinton’s campaign on Monday also began airing a new ad in New Hampshire and Iowa that confronts questions about her trustworthiness with a testimonial from a New York constituent whose son received a bone marrow transplant with the help of her Senate office.

The man, Joe Ward, says in the 30-second television spot that his family’s insurance wouldn’t cover the transplant. ‘‘We called Senator Clinton and asked for help,’’ Ward says. ‘‘Her office called the next day letting us know the hospital was going to absorb the cost of the transplant. Now, her opponents are saying that Hillary can’t be trusted. I trusted this woman to save my son’s life. And she did.’’

The ad comes as polls show that one of Clinton’s vulnerabilities is the public’s view of her as insincere.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; hillary; hussein; osama
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1 posted on 11/19/2007 7:26:09 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

I’m sure both Clinton’s have “cleaned” their share of bush. Yuck.


2 posted on 11/19/2007 7:28:33 PM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Graybeard58

Crazy like a fox.


3 posted on 11/19/2007 7:28:51 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: Graybeard58
Some experience, Senator Clinton. Businesses and people are fleeing the Empire State because of low paying jobs and high taxes. No jobs created.

I visited my sister in Buffalo last week. When I was a kid, Bethlehem Steel, Westinghouse, Republic Steel, etc employed half a million men in high paying jobs.

Today, the largest employer in Erie County is a Health Alliance that cares for the sick.

Great job, Senator. I can't wait to see what you do for America (God forbid).

4 posted on 11/19/2007 7:30:27 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Huck

Good one!!!


5 posted on 11/19/2007 7:33:11 PM PST by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: Graybeard58
"While she directed much of her criticism at the Bush administration and GOP presidential candidates, the subtext of Clinton’s speech was clear: She has more detailed understanding of U.S. economic woes than her rivals.

Her understanding of U.S. economic woes: the means of production are solely in the hands of the kulaks & bourgeoisie, the proletariat are exploited by the owner classes, and the wealth of the country needs to be seized by the Party and redistributed.

The Hillary Clinton economic plan is expounded on quite elegantly by Karl Marx in his seminal treatise Das Kapital.

6 posted on 11/19/2007 7:33:36 PM PST by Virulas
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To: Graybeard58
There is one job we can’t afford on-the-job training for

I seem to recall quite a lot of on-the-job training under/over/beside BJ.

7 posted on 11/19/2007 7:33:49 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
people are fleeing the Empire State because of low paying jobs and high taxes

Bush did it.

8 posted on 11/19/2007 7:37:49 PM PST by RoadKingSE (How do you know that that light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: pray4liberty

“The ad comes as polls show that one of Clinton’s vulnerabilities is the public’s view of her as insincere.”
Insincere? That lying carpet-bagger wouldn’t know sincerity if it bit her on the.. Oh wait, lets not go there.
Honesty and the Clinton’s, never shall the two meet.
The “polls” should show her as the candidate who can not debate ANYONE. She can’t, couldn’t, wouldn’t debate anyone without a prepared script. This is her big weakness, she can’t think on her enormous cankles, without a prepared response. But I digress........ It’s the paradigm shift...
pandemic.....blah,blah (typical news reporter verbage)


9 posted on 11/19/2007 7:37:52 PM PST by 9422WMR
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To: Virulas
The Hillary Clinton economic plan is expounded on quite elegantly by Karl Marx in his seminal treatise Das Kapital.

As practiced by Robert Mugabe and Hugo Chavez.

10 posted on 11/19/2007 7:38:33 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58
‘‘There is one job we can’t afford on-the-job training for — our next president. That could be the costliest job training in history,’’

An excellent reason for not electing Hillary Clinton President as she has little government experience and zero executive experience running anything except her mouth.

11 posted on 11/19/2007 7:38:41 PM PST by plain talk
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To: mtbopfuyn

Monica has more head of state experience than hillary


12 posted on 11/19/2007 7:39:08 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: plain talk
and zero executive experience running anything except her mouth.

again...monica has her beat in that dept. ok I'll shut up before I throw up
13 posted on 11/19/2007 7:40:52 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: plain talk
has little government experience and zero executive experience running anything except her mouth.

I get a little queasy when any of Hillary's body parts are mentioned.

14 posted on 11/19/2007 7:40:58 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58
This is what really pisses me off about the GOP. The US economy was pulling out of a recession by election day. Unfortunately the statistical evidence was withheld by the appropriate departments.

Pubbies should be shouting this truth from the rooftops, but noooo. Spineless idiots.

15 posted on 11/19/2007 7:41:56 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: ari-freedom
Monica has more head of state experience than hillary

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16 posted on 11/19/2007 7:42:24 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: ari-freedom

Your privy to Hill and Bills bedroom?


17 posted on 11/19/2007 7:43:41 PM PST by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Virulas

” The Hillary Clinton economic plan is expounded on quite elegantly by Karl Marx in his seminal treatise Das Kapital.”

Hillary’s economic plan:

” From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs)”


18 posted on 11/19/2007 7:45:44 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: Graybeard58
‘‘Rather than just assert experience, if she has specific differences with me in regard to economic policy then let’s have that debate.’’

Wow! The empty suit make a point. Neither one is qualified for higher office.

For that matter, I've got openings in my company. They couldn't qualify for most of the jobs, but possibly could take an entry level sales position.

Of course, neither would find a sales job with my company acceptable since we pay for performance and demand accountability.

19 posted on 11/19/2007 7:46:00 PM PST by Entrepreneur
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To: ari-freedom

Nail meet head! ;)!


20 posted on 11/19/2007 7:46:45 PM PST by bonehead4freedom (I need a good tag line!)
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