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Debate on Islamism and Liberalism in the Arab World (Deteriorates to an Exchange of Curses
Al Jazeerah TV/MEMRI TV ^ | 10/30/07

Posted on 11/11/2007 9:00:50 AM PST by dervish

Money quotes --

Nidal Na'isa on why 89.6% of the voters voted for the Islamic platform over the modern Western platform:

"these voter are a bunch of people misled and numbed by the proselytized, generalized, deceptive, romanticized discourse which promises them Black-eyed virgins and Boys in Paradise"

and

"If these voters had managed to get a job and Visa to America, none of them would have voted, and nobody would have watched your show. You would be fired from Al-Jazeera and would be left jobless"

Response by toothless Egyptian cleric Al-Khouli:

When they [Wahabbist Bedouins] entered Andalusia they got Europe out of the darkness of the Middle Ages. They established a civilization for which the Spanish still long today."

"The Jews who immigrated and founded America excelled in comparison to other immigrants beacause they stole the heritage of the Muslims."

shouting match

(Excerpt) Read more at memritv.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arabworld; fromtangiertojakarta; iraq; islamist; israel; muslimbrotherhood; taliban; totalitarianregimes; wahabbism
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very funny
1 posted on 11/11/2007 9:00:51 AM PST by dervish
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"When they [Wahabbist Bedouins] entered Andalusia they got Europe out of the darkness of the Middle Ages. They established a civilization for which the Spanish still long today."

So much so, that they elected a Dhimmi government and couldn't bring themselves to say, "Al Qaeda" in the sentencing of the 3/11 bombers.

2 posted on 11/11/2007 9:03:59 AM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Alouette; SJackson; SunkenCiv; Convert from ECUSA; Valin; Jedi Master Pikachu

ping


3 posted on 11/11/2007 9:04:06 AM PST by dervish (Pray for the peace of an UNDIVIDED JEWISH Jerusalem)
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To: dervish
"The Jews who immigrated and founded America excelled in comparison to other immigrants beacause they stole the heritage of the Muslims."

Wow..that is one seriously twisted compliment.

4 posted on 11/11/2007 9:04:49 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: wagglebee; SandRat; river rat; ExTexasRedhead; Alouette; SJackson

This is actually what is explained for the pro-Islamist outcome:

“these voter are a bunch of people misled and numbed by the proselytized, generalized, deceptive, romanticized discourse which promises them Black-eyed virgins and Boys in Paradise”

Wow, says a lot, doesn’t it?


5 posted on 11/11/2007 9:12:04 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: dervish

Sounds to me like there’s not much hope for those people to see the light of day and to stop being barbaric savages living in the seventh century.


6 posted on 11/11/2007 9:17:35 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (so kick them out already!)
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To: dervish

Boys in paradise? I didn’t think Muslims admitted that any of them swing from the wrong side of the plate. Interesting....


7 posted on 11/11/2007 9:28:36 AM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: dervish

I really enjoyed that. Thanks.


8 posted on 11/11/2007 9:32:52 AM PST by Gumption
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To: dervish
Thanks for posting that. I was surprised that the host didn't interfere too much with what Nidal Na'isa had to say about the backwardsness of the modern Islamic world. Hopefully, he doesn't get killed and is allowed to go on more of these shows to confront people like the other guy who was saying that the world was better off back in the 8th Century.

Also, Na'isa had a great comeback when the other guy said that "modern Western civilization is not really a civilization [in comparison to the Islam that conquered Spain]". Nai'isa then asked the other guy how he had gotten to Qatar from Egypt. "Hadn't he flown in two hours?" Na'isa asked. Na'isa then pointed out that back in the 7th Century, it would have taken 6 months on camels to get to Qatar.

9 posted on 11/11/2007 9:36:19 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Pining_4_TX

The secular guy stopped short of saying that even though he was directly confronted about that insinuation. He ain’t no dummy.


10 posted on 11/11/2007 9:37:19 AM PST by Gumption
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To: dervish

They entered Andalusia and less than a generation latter they were fighting and each other.


11 posted on 11/11/2007 9:40:01 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

That should read fighting and killing each other.


12 posted on 11/11/2007 9:40:46 AM PST by DManA
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To: dervish

The Islamic guy withe monkey face looks like the same one Wafa Sultan argued with

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLoasfOLpQ


13 posted on 11/11/2007 9:52:40 AM PST by dennisw (Islam - "a transnational association of dangerous lunatics")
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To: dervish

really WANT TO HERE THE ALARM BELLS GO OFF? TAKE A LOOK AT THE VIDEO ON THIS PAGE....

WHEW....HERE’S EXACTLY WHAT WE’RE UP AGAINST FOLKS:

Title of Video: Al-Qaeda Leader Abu Yahya Al-Liby:
We Will Continue the Jihad until All the People in the World Submit to the Rule of Islam
(WHEN THE BLUE BOX COMES UP HIT THE 2ND CHOICE IE click here to view the content directly in your Windows Media Player)

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1602.htm


14 posted on 11/11/2007 9:53:52 AM PST by flat
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To: dennisw

Secular guy to Islamic guy-—

“You have the brains of an ant compared to me” -right at the end


15 posted on 11/11/2007 10:01:20 AM PST by dennisw (Islam - "a transnational association of dangerous lunatics")
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To: flat

Al-Qaeda Leader Abu Yahya Al-Liby...... one seriously ugly mofo


16 posted on 11/11/2007 10:03:05 AM PST by dennisw (Islam - "a transnational association of dangerous lunatics")
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To: dervish
When they [Wahabbist Bedouins] entered Andalusia they got Europe out of the darkness of the Middle Ages. They established a civilization for which the Spanish still long today."

That was about 1,300 years ago and that is the big "triumph" of Islamic culture? Yo boys, maybe you best start asking yourselves whey Islam has contibuted nothing to civilization's advancement for over 1000 years?

17 posted on 11/11/2007 10:36:11 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Hillary is polarizing, deceitful, and liberal. And those are are her good points!" Beaversmom)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Are you kidding. Whabbists are big on pedophilia. They even have a saying about it. Something like “A woman for duty a boy for fun”.

It is one seriously sick cult.


18 posted on 11/11/2007 10:39:38 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Hillary is polarizing, deceitful, and liberal. And those are are her good points!" Beaversmom)
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To: dervish

“The Jews who immigrated and founded America excelled in comparison
to other immigrants beacause they stole the heritage of the Muslims.”

Come on. This is from The Onion, right?

Maybe these Muslims think that Spanish Jews sent packing to the New
World were the Conquistadors...thus they assume it was Jews raping,
pillaging, and exploiting the Native Americans.

In that regard, if the Jews had been Conquistadores.....then yes,
they would have stolen the heritage of the Muslims in terms of methods
of conquest and murder.
AKA Jihad.


19 posted on 11/11/2007 10:40:24 AM PST by VOA
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To: dennisw

I thought so too


20 posted on 11/11/2007 11:35:13 AM PST by dervish (Pray for the peace of an UNDIVIDED JEWISH Jerusalem)
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